Macrosso Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 Which is the best vf-17 figure? i dont really care for model kits since i cant paint Quote
Macross_Fanboy Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 Bandai's of course. They're the only ones that make the VF-17 and VF-19 toys in 1/65. Quote
Macrosso Posted July 20, 2004 Author Posted July 20, 2004 bah that kind of sucks since it doesnt look all that great. what do u think i really love that mech. unless the model kits look nice none paint or something. Quote
Macross_Fanboy Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 bah that kind of sucks since it doesnt look all that great. what do u think i really love that mech. unless the model kits look nice none paint or something. You can always settle for those 1/144 critters that Bandai makes. I finsihed my VF-17S a few weeks ago and it looks awesome. Although it's hard to pose with that big ass gunpod it has. Quote
Macrosso Posted July 20, 2004 Author Posted July 20, 2004 http://www.animetoxic.com/prodetail.cfm?itemno=46929 i found it it looks ok if only i new a painter that would paint it for me Quote
Anubis Posted July 20, 2004 Posted July 20, 2004 (edited) The bandai VF-17 doesn't look bad lined up with the other Yamato's at least. Edited July 20, 2004 by Anubis Quote
Uxi Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Yeah you're pretty much stuck with Bandai if you want a transformable TOY. The thought of even a 1/72 Yamato is a very nice thought. 1/60 would be soooo much better, though. Quote
Graham Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 I'm a huge fan of the VF-17 (see my avatar). I Actually love Bandai's 1/65 scale DX VF-17S and VF-17D toys. I own something like 10 of them IMO, they're actually very good toys. Despite having no metal parts, they are probably the sturdiest Macross toy ever made. You would have to try really hard to break a Bandai VF-17. They also transform easily and smoothly and are actually very detailed. Although you can't tell from most online photos, Bandai's sculptors actually added all the 'detail-up' panel lines, which they didn't do on the 1/144 model kit. The VF-17D/S toys have far more detail and panel lines than Bandai's VF-19 Macross 7 toys. Actually a Bandai VF-17 is probably the Macross toy I most often take out and transform and play with due to it's ruggedness and ease of transformation. Most of my Yamatos are actually shelf queens that get very little play time these days, except the VF-11B FP version which gets a lot of hands-on time as well. The only downsides to the Bandai VF-17 is that it looks a bit to chunky when viewed side-on in fighter mode, it can't do a spread leg stance in battroid mode and the knees don't bend backward (only forward for Gerwalk mode), so no kneeling poses in battroid mode. Oh and also the landing gear sucks. Despite all the other detail on the toy, the landing gear is a joke, basically folding plastic tabs with molded on wheels with no detail If you are a 17 fan I recommend this toy, but don't wait too long, as even the VF-17S reissues are starting to get a bit scarce. Oh and I'd also love Yamato to make a 1/60 or 1/48 VF-17 toy with better landing gear and the FAST Packs first seen in Nightmarish Invasion. Oh and a Milia version as well. And while they are at it, they should throw in the optional radome and a fold booster Graham Quote
RosarioLuv Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 *chuckles* Graham, it's so fun to see how much the 17 brings out the kid in you! I actually love the 17 too, but even since she was 2, my daughter always says my valkyrie looks like "a squishy fly." I do like that valk for all the same reasons you do, and have even thought of ways to customize it to have the same features on your wishlist. Looks great from up top, but on the side it does look like an SD Fly. Gotta love it though. Quote
scand Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 (edited) I've personally fallen in love with that valk just from the attached pic. This came from one of the "post your collection" threads. This valk is so awsome I decided to order one from Gundam store and more along with a fire valk. I couldn't beat the price at 29.99. EDIT** to give credit for the pic** Wish I could find that thread again! I think it belongs to Montarvillois, But not sure. There was some custom work done to it so its not that posable out of the box. Edited July 22, 2004 by scand Quote
Graham Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 Interesting pic. That VF-17S definitely has modified knees, as the knees on the stock toy can't bend backwars. Also, it looks like some of the panel lines have been paitnted, or that mey just be light reflection. Graham Quote
scand Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 (edited) It does have some custom paint on it but I don't think much work went into it. Still looks pretty sweet though. If the person who did the custom could chime in and give us little how-to, I'd greatly appreciate it. Edited July 22, 2004 by scand Quote
Dangard Ace Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 I believe that's Montarvillois's VF-17. He customized the knees a few months after he joined up here and re-painted it....last year? into that pic you've posted. Quote
scand Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 I believe that's Montarvillois's VF-17. He customized the knees a few months after he joined up here and re-painted it....last year? into that pic you've posted. Your probably right. I don't know why but I always get those two confused. Montarvillois was my next guess. I think they may have had consecutive posts in that thread. My apologies for spreading mis-information. Quote
Sam Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 I've personally fallen in love with that valk just from the attached pic. This came from one of the "post your collection" threads. This valk is so awsome I decided to order one from Gundam store and more along with a fire valk. I couldn't beat the price at 29.99.EDIT** to give credit for the pic** Wish I could find that thread again! I think it belongs to Montarvillois, But not sure. There was some custom work done to it so its not that posable out of the box. WAY COOL! I LOVE THAT! Go the 17!! Quote
Graham Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 I've personally fallen in love with that valk just from the attached pic. This came from one of the "post your collection" threads. This valk is so awsome I decided to order one from Gundam store and more along with a fire valk. I couldn't beat the price at 29.99.EDIT** to give credit for the pic** Wish I could find that thread again! I think it belongs to Montarvillois, But not sure. There was some custom work done to it so its not that posable out of the box. Damn, that store has some great prices, I was gonna order some more Valks, but then I discovered that the rat-finks wont ship internationally....... grrrrrrrrrr Two of my pet hates in life are stores with great prices that wont ship overseas and ebay sellers who have exactly what I want but wont ship internationally....bastiches!!! Graham Quote
Macross_Fanboy Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 Two of my pet hates in life are stores with great prices that wont ship overseas and ebay sellers who have exactly what I want but wont ship internationally....bastiches!!! That VF-17 rocks, but it's weird that it has that fuel compartment decal near its "crotch". "Bastiches"?? That's funny Graham! Quote
Wabbit Posted August 14, 2004 Posted August 14, 2004 Damn, that store has some great prices, I was gonna order some more Valks, but then I discovered that the rat-finks wont ship internationally....... grrrrrrrrrrTwo of my pet hates in life are stores with great prices that wont ship overseas and ebay sellers who have exactly what I want but wont ship internationally....bastiches!!! Graham I share that hate. But is US$29.99 the regular / a good price of a VF-17S? Almost watched all the M7 episodes, now I want one! Quote
Graham Posted August 15, 2004 Posted August 15, 2004 US$29.00 is an excellent and extremely cheap price for a Bandai 1/65 scale VF-17S reissue toy. I've seen other online stores sell them for US$70. Consider that the Japanese retail price for the toy was ¥6,800 when it was reissued back in 2001. Graham Quote
Wabbit Posted August 15, 2004 Posted August 15, 2004 US$29.00 is an excellent and extremely cheap price for a Bandai 1/65 scale VF-17S reissue toy. I've seen other online stores sell them for US$70. Consider that the Japanese retail price for the toy was ¥6,800 when it was reissued back in 2001.Graham Thank you o-VF-17 expert! Quote
redsilk Posted August 15, 2004 Posted August 15, 2004 So which one is better then? The original DX release or the re-issue version ? Saw this DX version going at $45 can anyone give any opinion on its value ? How does it compare to the re-issue version in term of quality? Quote
Graham Posted August 15, 2004 Posted August 15, 2004 Both the reissue and the original release are excellent toys. The only difference with the reissue besides the packaging is that the yellow trim and UN Spacy emblems are painted on the reissue, whereas they are stickers on the original toy. For this reason I slightly prefer the reissue as on my 9 year old original VF-17S, some of the yellow stickers have developed some mis-coloring. Graham Quote
redsilk Posted August 15, 2004 Posted August 15, 2004 I see ..... because it is rather hard to find the re-issue is the original version worth the buy price ? Quote
Wabbit Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 I need the VF-17D, I have the S already. Man, those D's are even more hard to find... What's the best price for a VF-17D? Since there was only a reissue of the S. Quote
Graham Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 Saw 2 or 3 VF-17D toys in the Causeway Bay area of HK yeasterday, but they were quite expensive at HK$850 each (approx US$109). Graham Quote
Wabbit Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 (edited) Saw 2 or 3 VF-17D toys in the Causeway Bay area of HK yeasterday, but they were quite expensive at HK$850 each (approx US$109).Graham That's also the average price of the few I could find with Google. Oh well, I can settle with just a VF-17S 2nd edition I just won on eBay. Someone tried to outbid me, but with a high first bid that VF-17S is mine mine mine! Edited August 17, 2004 by Wabbit Quote
Wabbit Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 Wooo! Got a VF-17S reissue! The knees and feet are quite loose though, maybe I should use a screwdriver to turn the screws just a little bit tighter? The Battroid is AWESOME!!! It's even taller than my 1990 VF-1S! Only the Super pack makes my Roy taller! Quote
Arrowyn Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Oh and I'd also love Yamato to make a 1/60 or 1/48 VF-17 toy with better landing gear and the FAST Packs first seen in Nightmarish Invasion. Oh and a Milia version as well. And while they are at it, they should throw in the optional radome and a fold booster I second that STRONGLY with two big thumbs up!! Oh, and Congratulations Wabbit on your VF-17! Welcome to the VF-17 *Rocks* Club. Quote
kensei Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Wooo! Got a VF-17S reissue! The knees and feet are quite loose though, maybe I should use a screwdriver to turn the screws just a little bit tighter?The Battroid is AWESOME!!! It's even taller than my 1990 VF-1S! Only the Super pack makes my Roy taller! Hey Graham, does Bandai still hold the licence for Macross 7? I was kinda hoping taht Yamato would pick it up and make VF17s for us to enjoy. Quote
Graham Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Wooo! Got a VF-17S reissue! The knees and feet are quite loose though, maybe I should use a screwdriver to turn the screws just a little bit tighter?The Battroid is AWESOME!!! It's even taller than my 1990 VF-1S! Only the Super pack makes my Roy taller! Hey Graham, does Bandai still hold the licence for Macross 7? I was kinda hoping taht Yamato would pick it up and make VF17s for us to enjoy. The exact situation with the Macross 7 toy license is unknown. Yamato were always sort of cagey when I brought up the subject and would never give me a straight answer . As I'm sure most of you know, the situation with toy licenses in Japan is much less clear cut than in the West. In the US and many other Western countries, it's common practice for the license holder to grant a master toy license to one company only to make toys (although that situation is changing). However, in Japan, the license holder (in this case Big West), will often grant toy licenses to several diferent toy makers, based on scale, or materials or whether or not the toy transforms. So basically, I have no idea what the conditions of the license between Bandai and Big West are/were and whether or not the license has expired or been renewed and Bandai is just sitting on it. But I agree, a larger scale more detailed VF-17D & S toy with better landing gear, improved articulation, FAST packs, optional Radone and Fold Booster would be the bee's knees . Graham Quote
Renato Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Even if they don't hold a Macross 7 licence, they are obviously allowed to make PS Game VF-X toys. So, they could make the Ravens version of the 17 from there, and also the Jamming system-enabled red 17, too. In theory, that is. Though I am not sure how popular they think that design will be.. Quote
Graham Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Although there are a few fans who love the 17, it will always be overshadowed by the more popular designs like the 19 & 21/22 . Well, if I ever win a really large prize on the lottery, I'll start my own toy company and see about getting a Macross 7 toy license from BW, so I can make some kickass large scale Mac 7 toys Graham Quote
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