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the interesting thing about the cameras is how they are propelled.... I'm not certain what their form of propulsion might be. I'm thinking ram air. But if that is so, then where is the intake scoop? Maybe an anti-gravity device?

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the interesting thing about the cameras is how they are propelled.... I'm not certain what their form of propulsion might be. I'm thinking ram air. But if that is so, then where is the intake scoop? Maybe an anti-gravity device?

I don't remember seeing the usage of an anti-gravity device as form of forward propulsion before. But then again, I have never seen Macross 7, DYRL, or Perfect Memory, so I'm missing alot...

At any rate, I know that the SDF Macross used A.G. devices for take-off, so they do exist. Of course those ones ripped themselves free of the ships hull...

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i was thinking it looked more like the missiles with the dorsal thing nash posted awhile go.

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You don't mean the unmanned missile fighters, do you?

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat/aero/umf.html

nope it looks more like this

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...w_hmm-2040.html

Rearward... sort of however there is no central nozzle hole-the end of the thing comes to a point.

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Weird, I thought those were practice bombs from the way they smacked into the ground.

yea i also thought they where dummy bombs, cus they look like they where trying to hit the target ismau smash with the yf-19. plus guld got really piss off about it. and they why would they smash in the ground if they had cameras in it? arnt they suppost to follow the 2 jets to collect data if they crash in the ground that would be a waste

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i was thinking it looked more like the missiles with the dorsal thing nash posted awhile go.

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You don't mean the unmanned missile fighters, do you?

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat/aero/umf.html

nope it looks more like this

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...w_hmm-2040.html

Rearward... sort of however there is no central nozzle hole-the end of the thing comes to a point.

while thats true you still have to consider is it a animation error. not like macross has a shortage of that.

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i was thinking it looked more like the missiles with the dorsal thing nash posted awhile go.

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You don't mean the unmanned missile fighters, do you?

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat/aero/umf.html

nope it looks more like this

http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...w_hmm-2040.html

Rearward... sort of however there is no central nozzle hole-the end of the thing comes to a point.

while thats true you still have to consider is it a animation error. not like macross has a shortage of that.

Everything in Macross is not an animation error.

These camera devices were tracking on Isamu when he intentionally flew too low to the ground-they followed him down as he smashed into one of the targets. Isamu deviated from the planned mission altitude so that he could ditch them to have privacy during his brawl with Guld.

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Sorry folks,

I've gotta take this one down. After doing a bit of researching I must say that I was mistaken about these. According to the original script (continuity storyboards) Guld fires missiles (micro missiles from the BML-02S launchers). Isamu changes to GERWALK flies down and smashes into the target before Guld's missiles reach it. While this is still different than what actual appears in the finished product, I can no longer keep full heart that these are some type of camera devices. Missiles or not according to what Kawamori intended, they would be Guld's munitions that he launched. So, I will apologize to those who thought that they were some type of precision guided bombs and I told them they were wrong. You may correct, but they cannot be positively identified at this time.

I can accept when I am wrong.

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That's cool, but shouldn't it be "chaser" instead of "tracer"? :blink:  :unsure:

Chaser (1, 2.. etc.) were the planes who followed the YF-21 during (the) test flights, one whom Isamu flew in, in the VF-11B as Chaser One with a rocket booster.

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That's cool, but shouldn't it be "chaser" instead of "tracer"? :blink:  :unsure:

Chaser (1, 2.. etc.) were the planes who followed the YF-21 during (the) test flights, one whom Isamu flew in, in the VF-11B as Chaser One with a rocket booster.

That's correct.

Posted (edited)
Sorry folks,

I've gotta take this one down. After doing a bit of researching I must say that I was mistaken about these. According to the original script (continuity storyboards) Guld fires missiles (micro missiles from the BML-02S launchers). Isamu changes to GERWALK flies down and smashes into the target before Guld's missiles reach it. While this is still different than what actual appears in the finished product, I can no longer keep full heart that these are some type of camera devices. Missiles or not according to what Kawamori intended, they would be Guld's munitions that he launched. So, I will apologize to those who thought that they were some type of precision guided bombs and I told them they were wrong. You may correct, but they cannot be positively identified at this time.

I can accept when I am wrong.

The only question is was I wrong? LOL (Second guessing myself.)

I still say that these things seemed to be flying level until Isamu changed modes and went down and kicked the target. These things followed him down and hit the ground. Could Col. Millard have been cautious seeing Isamu's recklessness and ordered the use of chaser missile-cameras so that another VF-11 wasn't lost during weapons testing? They can't be bombs.... why would practice bombs have camera/sensor eyes on them and sustain level flight/tracking on Isamu? If they were just bombs, where are the VF-11 chase planes which video the test flights? and if those weren't devices which were meant to chase Guld and Isamu why did control bring up the surveillance satelite in orbit? Perhaps it was because those devices were meant to follow the 19 and 21 during the testing. Their detour to the city battle test course wasn't scheduled. They were supposed to be shooting ground targets over a range. I wonder who had a hand in changing this scene so much from the rough timeline story boards.

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