eyesonme78 Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Hey gys just customised one VF-1A valk, by drawing a bit of panel lining there and here, found it becomes even more better.. i am now thinking of drawing panel lining for my all valks. what ya guys think? worth it ? or not ? Quote
rocco_77 Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I haven't done this to any of my Valks... yet.... but pictures I've seen, when done well, REALLY looks great... I would say, if you are good at it, go for it... I'm going to practice on something other than a Valk first, and then I will probably do this to mine as well... Quote
jasonkimberson Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 if you ever do sell your valk that will take away the value because it will no longer be mint Quote
Jin_Kune_Do Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Hey eyesonme78 Well i did the same thing. I used a 0,5 pencil and did all the panel lines on my 1/48s and i must say, it does look more real. I wish i had the skills of some of the members here to really make my 1/48s look like the real deal nor do i have the money for it, so i use this option. If you ask me, i think the Valks looks better with gray panel lines. If you use the 0,5 pencil option, then you can smudge the lines, giving it a "dirty" or "weathered" effect. I was planning in getting a 0,01 technical pen, but was unable to find one here in Denmark. So i ended up buying another kind. But couldnt make myself do it on a 120+ toy Hope the info helped. -Jin Quote
zeo-mare Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 (edited) hey guys how well does a black Gundam fine line marker look on it? i just got a used 1/48, i intend to paneline, but i do not want to ruin it. thanks Chris edited: for horrible engrish Edited June 11, 2004 by zeo-mare Quote
treatment Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 before you do perma-markers like those gundam-pens, try to practice with the old reliable #2 pencil. That way, you can still clean it up easily if you messed up the lining. Quote
Jin_Kune_Do Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Hey zeo-mare From what i heard, its a bad idea to use black color for panel lining. It makes it looks too "catnonish" well that was what i read. I use a black panel line too on my of my broken jetfire, and its true...too cartonish for me. The gray color is in my opinion much better. If you are gonna do it right, then from what i remembered, the Sakura 0,01 tecnical pen is the one to use. -Jin Quote
Cdr Fokker Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Yeah, black is too much... grey is the way to go. I plan to do some weathering and such on my 1/48s, but first I need the time, and then I need the courage to actually try it on a $100+ valk, as opposed to $20 models... Quote
Rabidweezil Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I pannel all my valks with Grey gundam markers. Looks a lot better IMO. The only thing is that the grey pen tips frey after a few uses. Seems to be only an issue with that color. This is the best pic I have showing the panel lines Quote
zeo-mare Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 (edited) thanks i to am worried about panel lineing a $100.00+ toy, i am so used to models i am actually good at panel lineing I was just wondering how it comes out with the gundam markers, does it smudge or anything? and if you get a little on the outside of the panel line does it stain when you try to wipe it off? chris Edited June 11, 2004 by zeo-mare Quote
Hurin Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I think panel lines are way over-done. I see some that look thick and black and I weep for the poor toy. Of course, that's just my personal preference. In my opinion, panel lines, if done at all, should be subtle. H Quote
Rabidweezil Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Well I use the pen and then wipe off with my nice clean finger where I just lined. Takes away any excess and keeps it limited to the line itself. Sometimes they are a bit more stubborn though. Or else when you are say panel lining and suddenly a bird hits the front window causing you to go "Ahhh" and sending the paint pen across the whole piece of the Valk.. Well for unfortunate occurances like that I use a clean eraser to get rid of thoses stubborn stains (an eraser works well also to get rid of paint mess-ups that occur directly on the plastic, meaning this won't work if you painted the whole valk, just detailed on the plastic. Toothpick does the trick also) Hope that helps in some way Quote
Jin_Kune_Do Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Well...as for me, the best solution is the 0,5 pencil. Use that with an eraser, then you can get panel lines and the dirty/weathered look by smudging the eraser on the panel line. Rememver to do it on specific panels, like acces panels etc, to give it a more real "dirty" look on specific areas. Then if you dont like it you can always wash it off with soap. Its simple, cheap and safe too. The only downside with the 0,5 pencil is that you tend to over weather the panels. Just my two cents. -Jin Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Posted June 12, 2004 i will take pics and show you guys i used gundam markers, and used the rubber solution for rubbing off the smudges works really fine and great looking after all the efforts, i got this idea by looking at the hobby denki magazine they used gundams asa model.. i used it as well for my valk and it works great. Quote
wolfx Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 i will take pics and show you guys i used gundam markers, and used the rubber solution for rubbing off the smudges works really fine and great looking after all the efforts, i got this idea by looking at the hobby denki magazine they used gundams asa model.. i used it as well for my valk and it works great. Don't see much difference in the grey vs black here. I use gundam marker + eraser and it turns out like this. The erasers help to thin the the panel lines much more than the markers themselves can manage. More here. http://www.wolf-x.com/gallery/vf-1s?page=3 Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Posted June 12, 2004 well haven't got the batery for my digital cams yet but then i would not wanna test panel lining on my VF-1s .. too preciousssss.... for em to do that and also MY VF-1J super hikaru also ........ i scared.. not to mention my one and only low viz.....sighs... the only i dare to try is on max.. but the effects are great and i am very pleased with it.. Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 anyway some pics using my HP camera so may be a bit blurr.. heehee... Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 What ya guys think ? think should be quite okay right ? Quote
Armor Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 Looks really good.I like panel line on everthing. Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 Thanks now to convince myself on drawing panel lines on my cyclone but that baby is expensive... USD$200.. i bought it at that price bit heartache to draw lines...sighs.... Quote
eyesonme78 Posted June 14, 2004 Author Posted June 14, 2004 Guys panel lines what color is the best to use? grey or black? Quote
Neova Posted June 15, 2004 Posted June 15, 2004 Depends on the background colors and if you want the anime line art look or realistic look. Use dark grey / pure black for a clean anime look Use variable like grey shades for a realistic look. Depends on your taste. For fast packs, I would use straight black as it is already so dark. Quote
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