Sumdumgai Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Probably because it was starting to walk into persecutable grounds and was a flamable topic? So that political correctness wouldn't explode into the mod's faces? Because it was gay?
Max Jenius Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I woulda locked it too. What's it to you, BUTTHEAD!?
ChristopherB Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) The thread was destined to die from the moment of it's inception. It's apparent that some people will be offended by the suggestion that they like to ride other men's rumps. We must do out utmost here to not comment upon the alternate lifestyle of our fellow MW members. Edited May 18, 2004 by ChristopherB
Blaine23 Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I really think it was doomed from the beginning for being unnecessary and full of homophobic ranting... But what really pushed it over the edge was the use of "pork" as a verb. Pigs really hate that.
Agent ONE Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Ali, I told you last night. That discussion was SO going to take a turn towards being focused on the gay part and not the anime part. It is just not within the Terms of Use you agreed to when you signed up to be a member of Macross World.
ChristopherB Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) Fact: Federal law grants US citizens the right to discriminate against gays and lesbians in the hiring process. Sexual orientation is not a protected right. Sincerely, Christopher Edited May 18, 2004 by ChristopherB
areaseven Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Why are you so interested in that topic, Ali Sama? Is there something you want to share with us?
Anubis Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Topics that get into stuff like this can be funny for a little while at least.
Agent ONE Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 It is just not within the Terms of Use you agreed to when you signed up to be a member of Macross World. Hey Agent One, Do you mean the portion that says only "straight" people are allowed to be members of MW, and as such, no topics geared towards homosexuality will be allowed? ... No man, there is a difference... Red Commet has started threads about his taking to the idea that Exsedol and Vrlitwhai were homo-buddies, nobody cared. The thread in question had the term "rump-rangers" in it. THAT is obvioulsy an offensive term to the homosexual community. Not that I really care who gets offended because I think we live in a world full of pussies who need to stop their crying and go to the gym. Shawn sets rules around here and they must be followed, we are all playing and having fun on his dime.
Agent ONE Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Topics that get into stuff like this can be funny for a little while at least. So you take a contraversial topic and post crap in it to intentionally get it closed? Is that what you are saying? Because Max, Roy, and MMX LOVE to clean garbage up... They yearn for days where they don't have time to post anything because they are too busy cleaning up someone else's mess.
ChristopherB Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 No man, there is a difference... I know, I was just kidding around.
ewilen Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Hey, ChristopherB, what part of this don't you understand? Section III: Never Allowed#1. No religious or political debates. If you want to talk politics go to the proper outside forum. Not everyone shares your beliefs. Nothing starts more arguments then these kinds of debates. They have value but they have no value here.
EXO Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) So you take a contraversial topic and post crap in it to intentionally get it closed? Is that what you are saying? Because Max, Roy, and MMX LOVE to clean garbage up... They yearn for days where they don't have time to post anything because they are too busy cleaning up someone else's mess. No love for DA and SuperO... Edited May 18, 2004 by >EXO<
ewilen Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I see that ChristopherB has edited his posts, yet they still manage to be irrelevant to the topic (how does federal employment law relate to Macrossworld TOU?) and factually incorrect.
ChristopherB Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) ewilen, Rather than argue, I did the right thing and edited my posts. Knowledge of the rules does not mean that I'm immune from posting my opinion on occasion. I certainly hope you reference the "rules" in all instances where people post an opinion, as opposed to specific issues you selectively chose to champion. I apologize if you somehow took my comments personally. To each his own I always say. Religion was never mentioned so that is moot, and so I retained only one fact, which is not subject to "political" discussion/debate. Fact: a piece of information presented as having objective reality. Sometimes the truth can hurt. Sincerely, Christopher Edited May 18, 2004 by ChristopherB
Anubis Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) The occasional funny pic from a show you like is allowed though on occasion. Just no debates centered on real beliefs, issues, and all that jazz. A pic like the one I put was just for a mild comic effect. "Hey look it's Kira in Cagalli's dress!" I know I never deliberately try to offend. Once threads get a little too serious our illustrious mods will excise the tainted thread. There's a line between innocenct will n' grace and queer-eye type jokes, like Yukikaze seems quite adept at attacting, and actual bashing. Stuff like "rump-rangers" does cross the line into being actual insults. edit: spllng Edited May 18, 2004 by Anubis
ewilen Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) Christopher B., your fact may be "presented as objective reality", but it is false. If you would like me to explain why, I would be happy to do so via PM. And simply because I call you on one violation of the rules, that doesn't obligate me to point out every time an infraction occurs. You are obligated to follow the rules, however, and trolling a thread with irrelevant gay-baiting, particularly with reference to nonfactual political "facts" is against the rules. Edit: On second thought, there's really no danger of a debate, so I am going to post the reason why ChristopherB is wrong in a moment. Just wanted to get this note in before any further damage is done. Edited May 18, 2004 by ewilen
Agent ONE Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Fact:Federal law grants US citizens the right to discriminate against gays and lesbians in the hiring process. Sexual orientation is not a protected right. Sincerely, Christopher Christopher, This IS political man... It's a statement that can go nowhere but get people pissed, fact or not. It would be like me putting something like: (and this is only an example) “The Koran teaches its followers to kill all infidels.” Be it fact or not, it is inflammatory. ewilen, Christopher has been around a long time, I don't think he has ever offended anyone... I don't think this trolling was indented to be inflammatory.
ewilen Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 This is why: Federal law does not prohibit such discrimination in private hiring. (A federal executive order prohibits discrimination in federal civilian hiring.) However, Federal law does not give employers the right to discriminate against gays. At least eleven states prohibit discrimination against gays in both public and private hiring. So factually, Chris B.'s statement is wrong. Whether it has any bearing on this discussion is left up the reader. I fail to see a connection.
ewilen Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 AgentONE--understood. And acknowledge that Chris is a longtime contributor. My problem with this, as with so many political statements on MW, is that it is (a) incorrect, (b) potentially inflammatory, yet © responding to it incurs a risk of being drawn into a political debate.
Dangard Ace Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 So you take a contraversial topic and post crap in it to intentionally get it closed? Is that what you are saying? Because Max, Roy, and MMX LOVE to clean garbage up... They yearn for days where they don't have time to post anything because they are too busy cleaning up someone else's mess. No love for DA and SuperO... THANK GOD!! Love from a buncha thirty year old virgins living in their parents basement is something I can do without. (...or did Agent One take care of that problem?) Money and adulation however....(mostly money).....
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