After 1/48 Millia Super VF-1J...

[Nightbat]

Well, Ali has a point

Yamato has been releasing 2-3 things a month

The Dyrl line is almost over, 3 or 4 left for the 1/48's to catch up to the 1/60's

Destroids? enemy mecha? maybe

that's another 7 items x 2

maybe an SDF-1

still 6 months in the year

I do see it end (DYRL/SDF-TV) early next year

but that probably won't be the last macross release though

[Agent ONE]

I could see something special happening for the 20th anaversary of DYRL.

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

ok this is jumnl;ed up. you keep insisting that without an anime there is no new product. there are numerous toylines without any basis to support them other then the fact that the¥ are good toys. it seems that you think once macross 0 is over its done yamato aint got nothing more to produce. you keep thinking that nad i'll stick to my opinion. i dont think yamato will stop. if the¥ had that mentality they would have left the HCM as the best valk toys and never bothered making any VF-1 toys at all.

pwah oh well.

i too could see some DYRL special edition stuff this year too.

[Ali Sama]

I could see something special happening for the 20th anaversary of DYRL.

I am hoping they end it with a sdf-1

[Ali Sama]

ok this is jumnl;ed up. you keep insisting that without an anime there is no new product. there are numerous toylines without any basis to support them other then the fact that the¥ are good toys. it seems that you think once macross 0 is over its done yamato aint got nothing more to produce. you keep thinking that nad i'll stick to my opinion. i dont think yamato will stop. if the¥ had that mentality they would have left the HCM as the best valk toys and never bothered making any VF-1 toys at all.

pwah oh well.

i too could see some DYRL special edition stuff this year too.

ok. you seem to still not undrestand. Macross franchise is now alive and well.

ocne zero is done they will have done most if not all of the mehca in macross. If they keep makign rerealses they are just devaluing previouse releases.

what does the hcm have to do with this. stop rambling and learn how to use the enter button.

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

whatever.

[Ali Sama]

whatever.

conssesion of defeat accepted.

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

oh shut up that doesnt mean im defeated. look you got your opinions and i got mine. toonz made this thread about stuff coming after the VF-1J milia. I say theres much more and you got your own opinion. I don't think its' right to hijack this thread any further and derail it more than it already has been.

[Godzilla]

what does the hcm have to do with this. stop rambling and learn how to use the enter button.

That was uncalled for.

[Omni Existence]

PWAH yea right.  yamato is known for combining perfect variable ability with bad ass aesthetics and awesome detail.  what makes you think they would stop at a small ass 1/100 toy?  macross 0 aint even DONE yet and hell yamato is smart they will milk that bitch till its dry.  if they can milk the 20 yr old macross DYRL movie with a bunch of toys you can sure as hell bet they will do the exact same to a relatively new macross OVA that aint even finished yet.  1/100 is just a start.  last ditch?  I really really doubt that.  KNowing yamato they are just starting with something that everyone can afford and doing a perfect variable later.  they started perfect variable and chances are they will always end up with a perfect variable.  for them to come up latey with a koenig monster and a qrau months ago means that the¥ got more in store with macross.  crap their VF-0 isnt even out yet and already people think they are done. 

yamato done with macross?  aint happening.

ok. what has yamato relaly doen for macross since the first 1/48. repaints don't count.

yamato is realzing macross is not the "cash cow" it once was. it is a nich player and it wants to expand. They poroved themselves with macross now their going on to more popular titles.

just wait a year. I'll say I told you so and laugh at you when you cry that yamato is not making new macross toys.

Although Yamato is moving on with other franchises, Macross is STILL it's biggest cash cow.

Just check out Yamato's listings on HLJ.

With the advent of new Macross stuff, and old ones that haven't even been touched yet (Macross 7, VFX game mecha), this isn't the last time we'll see a big assed Yamato box with MACROSS slapped on it.

Sorry, but your presumption/reasoning is obviously, flawed.

[Omni Existence]

they are follwoing a market trend. macross 0 is their only real

you can be a fan boy or prepare yoru self for the end.

...and you are a marketing specialist, that you can tell, right?

viable seller for current macorss fans in japan.

the 1/100s are small and cheap they wil sell quiet well in japan. Once macross zero is over. so will yamato's  macross endevours.

lemme see...a lot of Macross fanboys actually thought Macross would be dead after Macross II. Surprise surprise, Macross Plus, and Macross 7 came out. After that, whaddya know? Macross Zero!

As long as there are Macross fans, Macross will continue, and as long as Yamato makes badass Macross stuff, they're in business.

If a toy compnay is not breakign new ground with new toys it is loosign intrest in the line, plain and simple.

Do you read your own posts Ali?

Yamato just came out with the Q-Rau, it's got Macross Zero stuff in the works, plus a VB-6 Koenig from the VF-X game. If that's what you call losing interest in a line, then I like the way they do things.

[jasonkimberson]

Ali makes sense about the DYRL stuff, once they make everything what else can they do? It might be the end for DYRL stuff this year or next and mac zero probably will end sometime late 2005/ early 2006. Makes sense to me...

[EXO]

Ali makes sense about the DYRL stuff, once they make everything what else can they do?  It might be the end for DYRL stuff this year or next and mac zero probably will end sometime late 2005/ early 2006.  Makes sense to me...

They can do destroids and N-Gers. Remember that 4 destroids + the Monster, which we already a sculpt for. I'm with Omni.

ADD... oh an Glaugs, regults and wtf??? I forgot the DYRL version macross...

Not to mention the Ostrich, Elint and GBP... but there's already threads on those...

Edited May 4, 2004 by >EXO<

[Agent ONE]

I think Ali is saying we are closer to the end of Macross production than the begining... All things end. Think about it, nobody is makin EXO Squad stuff anymore, no one is makin MASK stuff anyomre, nobody is makin Ducktails stuff anymore... See what I mean?

[jasonkimberson]

Ali makes sense about the DYRL stuff, once they make everything what else can they do?  It might be the end for DYRL stuff this year or next and mac zero probably will end sometime late 2005/ early 2006.  Makes sense to me...

They can do destroids and N-Gers. Remember that 4 destroids + the Monster, which we already a sculpt for. I'm with Omni.

ADD... oh an Glaugs, regults and wtf??? I forgot the DYRL version macross...

Not to mention the Ostrich, Elint and GBP... but there's already threads on those...

honestly i doubt many normal buyers will be buying all the monster figures @ 120 to 140+ after they stop making the VF1's. I guess the Q-Rau is the test and if that does well, then maybe they might. Monster Figs aren't as high on my buy list compared to other VF1s or other fighter planes....

[Omni Existence]

Ali makes sense about the DYRL stuff, once they make everything what else can they do? It might be the end for DYRL stuff this year or next and mac zero probably will end sometime late 2005/ early 2006. Makes sense to me...

DYRL stuff, yes, we saw that coming since the 1/60's, and the first 1/48.

What Ali has been "talking" about is the entire Yamato Macross Franchise altogether.

Yamato's Macross line will be doing the dodo next year. Naysayers have said the same thing with the release of the 1/60 valks with removable legs. "Fans won't buy into that" they said, look at us now....

[jasonkimberson]

I think Ali is saying we are closer to the end of Macross production than the begining... All things end. Think about it, nobody is makin EXO Squad stuff anymore, no one is makin MASK stuff anyomre, nobody is makin Ducktails stuff anymore... See what I mean?

2 years more is a long time.....i would totally agree that we could possiably see the end of Yamato Macross products within 2 years.

[EXO]

Ali makes sense about the DYRL stuff, once they make everything what else can they do?  It might be the end for DYRL stuff this year or next and mac zero probably will end sometime late 2005/ early 2006.  Makes sense to me...

They can do destroids and N-Gers. Remember that 4 destroids + the Monster, which we already a sculpt for. I'm with Omni.

ADD... oh an Glaugs, regults and wtf??? I forgot the DYRL version macross...

Not to mention the Ostrich, Elint and GBP... but there's already threads on those...

honestly i doubt many normal buyers will be buying all the monster figures @ 120 to 140+ after they stop making the VF1's. I guess the Q-Rau is the test and if that does well, then maybe they might. Monster Figs aren't as high on my buy list compared to other VF1s or other fighter planes....

Hey, he asked if there were anything left to do with the DYRL line. If they really wanted to they could make those pieces.

Whether they will or not is just wild speculation...

hmmm... misread what he wrote... he said AFTER they finish with DYRL...

Well that just opens an even wider scope of products for Macross stuff. (except M7)...

Edited May 4, 2004 by >EXO<

[Blaine23]

If a toy compnay is not breakign new ground with new toys it is loosign intrest in the line, plain and simple.

Do you read your own posts Ali?

Yamato just came out with the Q-Rau, it's got Macross Zero stuff in the works, plus a VB-6 Koenig from the VF-X game. If that's what you call losing interest in a line, then I like the way they do things.

Totally agree, Omni.

This is yet another case "I've got a theory!" without any proof or even semi-logical reasoning behind it.

Again, if this is how Yamato "ends Macross", then it looks fine to me as well.

EDITED to add:

stop rambling and learn how to use the enter button.

Ali, try not to rag on Shin's posting ability as your "argument". Both of you are not exactly the world's greatest English typists. Be fair.

EDITED AGAIN:

Because I'm dumb and I made a faulty assumption about Shin not being from the US.

Edited May 5, 2004 by Blaine23

[Sundown]

All things end.  Think about it, nobody is makin EXO Squad stuff anymore, no one is makin MASK stuff anyomre, nobody is makin Ducktails stuff anymore... See what I mean?

It's DuckTALES. Get it straight.

o/` Ducktales, awwooowoo! o/`

Is it only me or would Goslin's husky voice be kind of sexy if it sounded a little older, and less like a duck?

-Al

Edited May 4, 2004 by Sundown

[Drad]

Ali, try not to rag on Shin's posting ability as your "argument". Both of you are not exactly the world's greatest English typists. You have your dyslexsia, he's obviously not native English speaking. Be fair.

Heh. Ouch. Funny, though.

[Agent ONE]

All things end.  Think about it, nobody is makin EXO Squad stuff anymore, no one is makin MASK stuff anyomre, nobody is makin Ducktails stuff anymore... See what I mean?

It's DuckTALES. Get it straight.

o/` Ducktales, awwooowoo! o/`

Is it only me or would Goslin's husky voice be kind of sexy if it sounded a little older, and less like a duck?

-Al

A thousand appologies.

And yes... She would sound hot.

[Skull Leader]

I would argue that this thread is starting to go wayyyy off base. c'mon guys..

[Skull 001]

I would like to see a

Max TV 1A

CF 1J

1D

and Destroids

[Godzilla]

Yes, yes, yes. More 1/48s. At this rate I will have 50 1/48s!

[Pat S]

I would like to see a

Max TV 1A

CF 1J

1D

and Destroids

I would like to see the rest of the VF-1 line as well. Maybe they could pump 1 out a month, then get to the destroids and enemy mecha.

If they do make more 1/48 VF-1 toys, I think the CF will be next.

[Toonz]

At this rate I will have 50 1/48s!

sick

i want a CF too....

[Shmitty]

I think that the CF will be the next 1/48, seeing as how Kakizaki's never gotten any love anywhere before (other than the MPC's and that was "Ben") I doubt he'll be made into a 1/48. But who knows the future, right? If we're lucky maybe we might see him as a limited edition, like the Low viz. Here's hoping!

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

I'd rather see angel birds or max TV VF-1A as the next limited edition if there is one.

[Aegis!]

I don´t care if we get more 1/48 toys , I just want more macross toys ,period. For all I care they can go back to 1/60 or 1/72 , given the fact that not all valks are as small as the VF-1 , 1/48 isn´t my first choice.

We´re sure they´ll waste at least a whole year with the M0 1/100 toys and now that they have begun making VF-X2 toys (Koenig Monster ) I´m sure we´ll get another year of valks. And I haven´t mentioned the bigger scale M0 toys yet.

And then , hopefully , Yamato will be able to release M7 toys.

They surely have a LOT of valks there to produce , one year is not even enough for the 1/100 Mo toys

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

very true. There is at least 4 VF-0 variants they can exploit aside from roy's. Hopefully kawamori lets them do some VFERR paint schemes and remolds too. Hell if they are going to make a smaller line mineswell fill it up with a lot of releases right? I would not mind the drones on the VF-0 since they look like finnd booster FAST pack parts.

I want to see more obscure stuff especially the VF-3000. now that is a beautiful design.

If they make macross 7 toys, I hope they make a VF-17 and VF19S blazer valkyrie. Yea I know it's got small wings but the IHP kit of that looked awesome for some reason.

once bandai doen't renew their macross 7 license I am sure yamato would take the oppurtunity to nab it and make some kick ass toys. Bout time someone did the fire nad stealth valkyries some justice!(bandai dx ones are ok but yamato owns them in detail)

[Blaine23]

I think Ali is saying we are closer to the end of Macross production than the begining... All things end. Think about it, nobody is makin EXO Squad stuff anymore, no one is makin MASK stuff anyomre, nobody is makin Ducktails stuff anymore... See what I mean?

Hmmm... I must have missed out on all those Ducktales and MASK sequels, movies and OVAs.

Sure, it'll eventually end, Yamato will eventually find the point of diminishing returns on Macross toys - but I think the death bell was rung in this thread prematurely.

Of course, one could have easily predicted that before the first 1/48 came out... and here we are, over a year later. I think it all remains to be seen. I'd like to think that quality transforming toys based on Kawamori's designs will always have some sort of collector's market.

[do not disturb]

just catchin up on the reading here....some really funny stuff....awwwoooowoooo! that one nearly killed me.

okay my two cents....

perhaps yamato might slow their roll on the 1/48 line but they won't really stop making macross products. why would they?

i understand, theres only this left and that left as far as dyrl/macross but they still have a ways to go my brothas.

they tested the waters with the 1/60's then realized the fans buying them were willing to pay more for a bigger, better, more detail, more articulated valk, hence the 1/48. i don't think yamato had a plan for 1/48s when they came out with the 1/60's, it just worked out that way...for them and us. i believe in due time, this will happen to the other valks out there. the kids today will pay out the butt "tomorrow", just like we're doing for the VF1 1/48s and just like they'll do when their a little older. basically, they'll continue to make new stuff, and even if they make old stuff, they'll just make it bigger and fresher.

they're testing the water with the koeing, seeing if anyone bites, and so far more than the majority of people here said they'd pick it up. they did the same with the 1/60 monster...guess what? some people were interested but they didn't get enough nibbles to justify production. the q-rau was another test, and we we're all pretty psyched when we heard and the news buzzed around for while, then yamato went into production. hopefully yamato will see good sales/profits from the q-rau, otherwise i don't see yamato spending more money to make another version...would you if you had a toy that failed to make a profit?

back to the topic,

i still say destroids and enemy mecha. i don't even care what scale, just as long as they make them nice. otherwise i'll take the CF.

way off topic but i'd love it if yamato made a smaller scale diecast VF-1 perfect transformation valk....i'd be on them like white on rice.

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

my money is on more obscure valks and macross 7 stuff once bandai doesnt renew their license. Since destroids don't transform and don't have a lot of articulation joints like valkyries need, I think yamato could pull them off in good cold DIECAST and ABS form. I mean since it dont transform, theres not many joints that will weear down because of metal as long as it is placed strategically. for example take the phalanx and spartan. diecast could be in the lower legs and chest. the arms could be ABS with no metal. This way both destroids are firmly planted due to the weight in the legs and chest, and the arms can be posed doing YMCA poses because there is nothing wearing them down.

I only hope they make a metal skeleton witih swappable destroid conversion armor like the takatoku conversion kit. that looked cool.

[do not disturb]

I only hope they make a metal skeleton witih swappable destroid conversion armor like the takatoku conversion kit.  that looked cool.

for sure! i still want one of those but i haven't really seen any nice ones. last time i saw a complete one with the box was for $140+...a bit to rich for my blood considering they're kind of small.

thats actually not a bad idea if yamato decided to go that route. like you said, they don't TF so its not like yamato could charge more than $50-$60 for them. they could easily sell a conversion kit for more money and not have to go through the hassles of making each individual one.

whatevs i'm smoking rock over here but a brotha can hope can't he.