Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) OK I was showing a friend the first episode of SEED and I noticed they had the Red Frame Astrey in the opening. It shows up at that part where an image of each Gundam flashes for less than a second. You see the Astrey show up right before the scene where the Zero deploys it's weapon pods. Did they intend to have the Astreys show up somewhere in the series? Edited April 29, 2004 by Druna Skass Quote
azrael Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 OK I was showing a friend the first episode of SEED and I noticed they had the Red Frame Astrey in the opening. It shows up at that part where an image of each Gundam flashes for less than a second. You see the Astrey show up right before the scene where the Zero deploys it's weapon pods. Did they intend to have the Astreys show up somewhere in the series? Not those Astrays..... Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 Not those Astrays..... You mean they just threw the MBF-P02 in the opening for kicks? Quote
Panon Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Not those Astrays..... You mean they just threw the MBF-P02 in the opening for kicks? Pretty much, yes. Much like how Home (the ship of the main Astray characters) makes a brief appearance in episode 47. Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 I think it shows up in the first episode too... Quote
wolfx Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Good catch. Didn't realise it. The chances of Astray being animated have as much chance as Gundam Sentinel being animated. But who knows? All them fanboys gathered during GUndam Seed might just make Bandai do cameos in Gundam Seed 2 or whatever the next Gundam is about. PS: Saw the MSV video at the end of Gundam Seed Special part 1. Calamity Sword...oooOoooh.... Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Never really liked Gundam Astray looks too organic something like from the evas. Quote
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 The chances of Astray being animated have as much chance as Gundam Sentinel being animated. But who knows? All them fanboys gathered during GUndam Seed might just make Bandai do cameos in Gundam Seed 2 or whatever the next Gundam is about. weren't they in some screen shots from gundam seed 2 a while back on these boards? knowing bandai they'll milk this gundam series until people get sick to their stomachs of it Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 The chances of Astray being animated have as much chance as Gundam Sentinel being animated. But who knows? All them fanboys gathered during GUndam Seed might just make Bandai do cameos in Gundam Seed 2 or whatever the next Gundam is about. weren't they in some screen shots from gundam seed 2 a while back on these boards? knowing bandai they'll milk this gundam series until people get sick to their stomachs of it I really wish that next series would be Crossbone Gundam or Sentinel Gundam ! Quote
wolfx Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Haro, i was meaning to ask but what is your avatar? Asuka? I wanna see the full pic. Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Speaking of Gundam Sentinel. Does anyone have a clue where I can find the books that that was in? Seed really ain't half bad, however. I was suprised after the debacles of Wing, X, and Streetfighter Gundam. Quote
Anubis Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) The chances of Astray being animated have as much chance as Gundam Sentinel being animated. But who knows? All them fanboys gathered during GUndam Seed might just make Bandai do cameos in Gundam Seed 2 or whatever the next Gundam is about. weren't they in some screen shots from gundam seed 2 a while back on these boards? knowing bandai they'll milk this gundam series until people get sick to their stomachs of it Those were from the upcoming Seed game. As for the Astray, nice catch! That's not one of Orb's Mass-production M1 Astrays either, because they had the Aile-Strike-ish fins monted on the back, so that would have to be the red frame in that pic. Who knows, maybe they intended to include it in the show at some point, for at least a cameo episode or two. Looks like there were several things they didn't have time to include, mostly deliberate (IMO) to save for Seed 2. They said in the beginning that Seed was supposed to be a new branch off point. Edited April 29, 2004 by Anubis Quote
Sebastian Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 The Red Astray appears in the last episodes, they are piloted by some girls... poor girls.. Quote
wolfx Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 The Red Astray appears in the last episodes, they are piloted by some girls... poor girls.. Those were the M1 mass production models. Not the Red Frame. Does anyone else find it silly that the Blue Frame's "ultimate form" looks like he's wearing a Japanese Yojimbo-like outfit/armor ?? Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 poor girls? C'mon. They sufferd the same fate as all major or secondary characters in a Tomino series. Look at Zeta for examples. No Gundam series has beaten it yet in sheer number of characters killed at the end. Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 You didn't need to appologize. I was making a comment. Tomino has this habit of whacking almost every character in his Gundam shows, by the end. Zeta Gundam set a record for character slaughter that has yet to be rivaled. I will say this though. Those chicks in those MS deserved better than that ending. I thought it was kinda pathetic. Quote
wolfx Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 You didn't need to appologize. I was making a comment. Tomino has this habit of whacking almost every character in his Gundam shows, by the end. Zeta Gundam set a record for character slaughter that has yet to be rivaled.I will say this though. Those chicks in those MS deserved better than that ending. I thought it was kinda pathetic. Yes...considering they miraculously survived battles up till the end only to die a most unglorified death by a-stray (pun intended) beam rifle shot....... Quote
GRAND CANNON Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 OK I was showing a friend the first episode of SEED and I noticed they had the Red Frame Astrey in the opening. It shows up at that part where an image of each Gundam flashes for less than a second. You see the Astrey show up right before the scene where the Zero deploys it's weapon pods. Did they intend to have the Astreys show up somewhere in the series? Could it be from any of Specials noted in these reports below? (Link to quotes is HERE) Astray Red Frame short film picsOver at Hanepen's Anime Diary, the first pics of the Astray Red Frame short film have turned up. ¶ 4:03 PM Astray newsAs mentioned a short while back, in the Bandai booth at the Tokyo International Anime Fair 2004, Sunrise's site says they're showing a 5-minute "Gundam SEED MSV Astray" promo short film from March 25 - 28. A post on 2ch reports the following as the voice cast of the Red Frame promo: Lowe Guele - Masaya Onosaka (Vash The Stampede from Trigun) Kisato Yamabuki - Masayo Kurata Liam Garfield - Shou Hayami (Ginias Sahalin from 08th MS Team, Max Jenius from Macross) Professor - Ai Orikasa (Fara Griffon from V Gundam, Quatre from Gundam Wing) 8 (Hachi) - Rikako Aikawa and others In other happenings, the official Astray site updated, separating the various Astray spinoffs into their own sections and putting characters and mecha into more convenient faction groupings. ¶ 1:39 PM Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 "Yes...considering they miraculously survived battles up till the end only to die a most unglorified death by a-stray (pun intended) beam rifle shot....... " "not as clumsy or random as a blaster" my ass......er ::cough:: I'm still sore about how Mu went down. The dynamic between him and Ramius was something I really liked. They deserved a shot together. Alas; that too is a Tomino staple. Geez. I'm starting to see the fatalistic pattern here.... Quote
Stamen0083 Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 All this in a non-Tomino Gundam series... Hmm... Is Fukuda going to be the next Tomino (or Tomino wannabe)? PS: Didn't V Gundam have lots and lots of dead people in it? Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 I think V Gundam did have a high mortality rate, but it still couldn't handle the numbers in Zeta. Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 Could it be from any of Specials noted in these reports below? Nope that screen shot was from the 1st opening, I captured it myself... Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 I'm still sore about how Mu went down. The dynamic between him and Ramius was something I really liked. They deserved a shot together. Alas; that too is a Tomino staple. Geez. I'm starting to see the fatalistic pattern here.... Yeah I wasn't too happy about that either, he was my favorite character. When I saw the Providence, I was hoping they'd dissasemble the Mobius Zero and use it to make a newtype use Strike equipment and have him lay the smack down on Le Klueze. Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 ahh the Providence Gundam. one word comes to mind when I see that MS Ridiculous. Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 ahh the Providence Gundam.one word comes to mind when I see that MS Ridiculous. Butt-ugly comes to my mind... Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 I hope that Gundam Seed doesn`t take over the Gundam franchise. If there a sequel they might call it Z Gundam Seed DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE SIGN OF SEED Quote
j_wong00 Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 I hope that Gundam Seed doesn`t take over the Gundam franchise. If there a sequel they might call it Z Gundam Seed DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE SIGN OF SEED Please don't give them any ideas. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 I hope that Gundam Seed doesn`t take over the Gundam franchise. If there a sequel they might call it Z Gundam Seed DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE SIGN OF SEED  Please don't give them any ideas. Believe I really hope not. Quote
bsu legato Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 I hope that Gundam Seed doesn`t take over the Gundam franchise. Hasn't it already? Quote
Impreszive Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 "I hope that Gundam Seed doesn`t take over the Gundam franchise. If there a sequel they might call it Z Gundam Seed." Well considerind that almost every new Gundam story is an alternate history, it may as well take it over. Quote
Anubis Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 (edited) Once again, Seed was intended from the start to be the new branch off point. Sunrise didn't want to rely on UC anymore. Why we have a Seed 2 now for example. Eventually I would expect to see some Side OVA's or something eventually, assuming Seed 2 does as well as the first did. My hope is they actually get into the newtype angle in Seed 2, as well as the all new coordinator-newtypes that Kira and Athrun were looking to be. It's obvious Klueze and Mu were newtypes though they never said it. I think Azrael's crazy-trio were artificial newtype experiments, hence their increased capability, and Klueze was a part of that of course. They never did get further with those "stages" Natarle came across that were mentioned once, and only once. Superior Evolutionary Element Destined factor sounds kind of newtype-ish to me. The thing that irked me about the Mu/Rau fights is that Mu was always at a disadvantage. If he was on even standing he likely would have kicked Rau's ass. Even with that new IWSP pack from MSW he probably could have handled Providence. First it was Mobius Zero vs. souped up Ginn. Later Launcher Strike vs Cgue (I still say he would have kicked his ass if he was using the Aile pack. Launcher sucked if it wasn't on actual ground and was quite ill-suited for a Cgue) Finally the Aile Strike vs a funnel equipped Newtype mobile suit. The idea about taking the Mobius Zero apart would have been cool. What I thought would happen would be after the strike took all that damage, he would land, pull the tarp off the Zero and go fight Klueze again, and go out in a blaze of glory during tag-team match alongside Freedom. After they got into earth's atmosphere, they never showed the Zero again IIRC. Though I still wanted Mu to live, I'm actually happier he went out blocking the Lowengreen shot against the Archangel. I would have been more pissed if Klueze took Mu out himself. On a side note, I actually loved the providence. It was like a Titans Mk. II on newtype crack. I was happy to hear the sound of real funnels again. Edited April 29, 2004 by Anubis Quote
Jolly Rogers Posted April 29, 2004 Posted April 29, 2004 Tomino has this habit of whacking almost every character in his Gundam shows, by the end. Zeta Gundam set a record for character slaughter that has yet to be rivaled. Have you seen Aura Battler Dunbine? He wiped out every single character, including the main ones, except for one minor character who lived to tell the tale. Zeta doesn't even come close in terms of annihilation ratio, with plenty of people left over to carry on in ZZ. Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 It was like a Titans Mk. II on newtype crack. Yup that's definatly crack... Quote
Druna Skass Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 Have you seen Aura Battler Dunbine? He wiped out every single character, including the main ones, except for one minor character who lived to tell the tale. Zeta doesn't even come close in terms of annihilation ratio, with plenty of people left over to carry on in ZZ. I don't think anyone can top SDF Macross's annihilation rate, come one Kawmori whacked 10 billion people. Quote
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