Jolly Rogers Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Fans of Mobile Suit Gundam often debated whether the original TV series should be re-animated to introduce younger fans raised on the new style anime who can't stomach the fugly old animation. What are your thoughts regarding reanimating SDF: Macross, HG legality issues aside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I don't think it'll ever happen seeing as how Kawamori said Flashback 2012 was the last we'd see of the the SDF:M storyline. But, if it WAS to be reanimated them I'm all for it. ABSO"FREAKING"LUTELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scand Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 NO! All efforts should push forward and advance the Macross universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Major Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 It should SOOO be re animated, just as long as it doesnt turn out to be another M7 recycled pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 YES.. it's not like the macross schedule plate is full... I would love to see it reanimated up to DYRL standards. But I don't think it'll happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Considering anime friend was involved in the production, and used their most half assed animators at that, it would definately benefit from being re-animated. Just as long as all the original audio is used (though some new Max & Milia scenes wouldn't hurt..., but only in addition to the original material). As for M7, it was in no way shape or form recycled anything, 100% original Macross story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 It would be nice us to see it as the way Kawamori San wanted it to be with with DYRL animation style of the original scenes and including in animation of the VF-4, Hikaru and Misa's wedding and the lauching of the Megaroad... ... of course no Star Wars Special Edition way... that suck big time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewtal Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Voted no. If this were 1988-92 then i'd reconsider, but animation studios have lost their touch for highly detailed fully shaded art. Sometimes more is more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Leader Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I voted "yes". While I want the dialogue completely untouched (similar to Keith, only changes to add MORE). So long as there are no distortions in the story, I think it could benefit from today's technology. I believe this argument is undertaken with the idea in mind that it would not take away from any macross developments that take place in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Fans of Mobile Suit Gundam often debated whether the original TV series should be re-animated to introduce younger fans raised on the new style anime who can't stomach the fugly old animation. What are your thoughts regarding reanimating SDF: Macross, HG legality issues aside? MSG reanimated? Gundam Seed is probably just that, added more teenage boy angst. Macross reanimated? DYRL. But if a reanimated TV series....why not? I'm all for it. It might turn out better. Or it might just become a reanimated corpse.......like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 No. The old style definitely has its charm and how we remembered the series to be. Of course, I would wish a few eposides are re-animated back then, like the episode where Max met Millia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 As for M7, it was in no way shape or form recycled anything, 100% original Macross story. I think he means the tons of recycled footage in the battle scenes and whatnot. I kind of agree with that, I'd only be for it if the animation quality was better than M7. M7 did have more consistent animation than SDF Macross, but the battle scenes and a number of the backgrounds really suffered. It stayed pretty middle of the road, never being as good as SDF's best, and nowhere as bad as SDF's worst, in animation. As for what extent? I'd kind of like a 'definitive' version of Space War One, made up of all the elements from both the tv series and movie that made their way into the sequels and prequels, and going all the way with DYRL?'s design elements. I'd love that detailed 80's style cel shading, and a very DYRL?-esque feel to the whole show. Still, that would leave a lot of room to tick off existing SDF Macross fans. Just reanimating everything to higher animation standards, and going with DYRL? designs, while sticking strictly to the original SDF storyline and even just using the existing audio would be the safest route to please everyone. Still, not like it's going to happen. I'd be even happier with an altogether new tv series. I just wouldn't be opposed to a well done reanimated version of SDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohsho Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Voted Yes, let's see Macross as it was originally planned in its 50+ eps. I wanna see the relationship between Max and Millia develop and not just the arcade challenge, fight to death in the park, marraige bit. Not that it wasn't cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I say keep the audio all the same, just reanimate all the episodes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I voted reanimated into Macross VFX quality at minimum. Macross Zero / Yukikazi CGI + cel drawing mix and anamorphic 16:9 wide screen format with DTS EX re-encoding but no fugging the script with all cut parts put back would be awesome. I'll drop some bills for that, even if its a R2 only releases. And do the same for Flashback 2012 and include it as the extra disc this time! I don't want to pay the same price as DYRL DVD for 30 mins of music video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I'd rather Big West release a new Macross TV series or OVA, rather than reanimate SDF Macross. However, if it was to be reanimated with better art, I also think that the original voice, song and BGM soundtracks should be retained. Oh, and I'd also like more Minmay fan service as well...........lots more Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurin Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I used to be a "no" type. But I've grown to loathe the AnimeFriend-heavy episodes so much that I'd be onboard with a re-animated one that (as others have said) retained the original voice and music recordings. Though, really, I also wouldn't mind if they added more variety to Minmay's song repertoire. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanpang Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I voted "no" earlier as well as I felt it was this one series that brought me into japanese animation. I would hate to see change in any other way but I would not mind adding new footages as long as the original goes uncut. They could extend the series up to the launch of Megaroad, the wedding of Hikaru and Misa, earth reconstruction. Since we are at this topic, I wish they could do a sidestory for space war one with updated DYRL variable crafts, may it be a series or OVA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impreszive Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I gave that a "no" vote. I'd rather it just be left alone. I'm reminded of recent "Special Editions" that certain directors thought would look better. See for example; Han Solo firing after Greedo shoots first (WTF!?), and All the FBI Agents in ET with walkie talkies instead of their weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Cab Driver Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 (edited) I usually try to show the old TV episodes of Macross to some new audiences and most of the time they were turned off by the outdated and budget rate animation. Although I agree with the others and doubt that the TV series would be re animated I believe it would introduce a new crop of fresh fans for the franchise. The beautiful CG dogfights in M0 or Yukikaze would help a lot and possibly more character development for the other interesting characters such as Max, Kakizaki and Roy. Plus, as suggested by the other posters, tunes by Yoko Kanno and more Minmay songs would be nice too. I honestly believe if Macross SDF was re-animated and turned into a new TV series (with only minor changes to the script) it would become quite popular to new generation of audience. So I vote yes. Edited April 26, 2004 by Tokyo Cab Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit29 Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Yes but not at the cost of progressing the Macross universe. Imagine if Macross looked like Last Exile. That would get some heads to turn. Keep the voice tracks if possible but rerecord(not change) the bgm music and Minmay's songs. Don't get me wrong I love old anime but if there was a chance to reanimate the original I'd be all for it. And please don't hire the character designer of Macross Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Theoretically? Yes, I'd like to see the original updated. Realistically? No, and it's never going to happen. I think the budgetary reasons alone would preclude any re-animation of the original series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladic Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 no, 70's and 80's animation is better than the crap today, were everyone has spiky hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 The whole Miss Macross contest should be reanimated... talk about a dog show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Jack Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay should it be reanimated. It is fine the way it is bad animation and all, and besides if you like the show you should be able to look past the poor animation for what is important... The story. Now macross has a really cool story so if it were reanimated it would be uber cool, but when I watch the series I can't help but think wow those special effects were probably pretty cool back in the day. It's like watching an anime time capsule, this is where some of the greats got their start, and I think reanimating it would be a little like changing history. Or maybe I'm taking this entirely too seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 (edited) im all for re-animation so long as: 1: ORIGINAL model sheets and orthos are used. i want them to look the same, but animated well. 2: it MUST remain 2d. SDF: Macross is a 2D animation. 3: if possible, it should be reanimated, but use the same audio track as much as possible, IE: dump the video from the original show, keep the audio and simply re-animate the serise. some additions would be nice but only where ABSOLUTLY nessesary. like when minmay sings a new song, make sure its actually a "new" song :-) this is what i'd like to see done. (i know it won't happen) Edited April 26, 2004 by KingNor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 We talked about this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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