Ido Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 (edited) but it just screams out "Don't touch me!!". As my 1/48 battroid with the fastpacks on. Edited September 25, 2004 by Ido Quote
wolfx Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Well at least they fixed the hip leg joints abit. Didn't looked as fugly as before. Quote
UN Spacy Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 The head lasers still look a tad bit off........and I'm still afraid it'll be too fragile. Alas, it still looks GREAT. Quote
Dobber Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 (edited) I still want to see a good shot of it from the side in fighter mode to see if it is any more streamlined. Those intakes were just way too big before. Chris Edited September 25, 2004 by Dobber Quote
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 stupid ugly intake warnings i'm still going to get one no matter what though i explained in another thread that the head lasers were angled out from the get-go. kinda sucks since the second head sculpt yamato had shown was perfect...yet they decided to go with what looks like the first head sculpt ... yamato still needs to improve the wings...not make them longer but make that gap a little bigger ...sucks that yamato won't listen to us or anything anymore Quote
Chowser Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 ok, I'm sold. I'm going to get it and just leave it in fighter mode. Ok, Yamato, make a 1/48 Perfect Transformation next. I'd even settle for a 1/60!! Hint! Quote
Angel's Fury Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 The head lasers still look a tad bit off........and I'm still afraid it'll be too fragile. Alas, it still looks GREAT. Same here. I think I'll buy it. Quote
Wabbit Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Hope it's really cheap. After the 1/48 line, 1/60 Rau's and 1/100 Koenig Monster, it's time to recover my balance bit. Quote
aaajin Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Im sold too...so, what's the approx. costs for this babe? around 30 bucks is it (if i recall myself) ? Quote
Bob_Coffee Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Looks great. really great, dont mind the parts swapping, but please yamato, do somethign about the head, which is a ugly bulbous abomonation. Quote
connor99 Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Couldn't have said it better myself, BOB COFFEE! With all the darn part swapping, you think YAMATO would provide a second VF-0S head that's a little easier on the eyes. I guess I can chalk this one up to wishful thinking . Quote
eriku Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 but it just screams out "Don't touch me!!". As my 1/48 battroid with the fastpacks on. That's precisely why I refuse to buy fastpacks for my 1/48. I'm really not that crazy about this beast, but I love the VF-0 and want a little representation of it for my collection, so if I can find one for $25 or $30 I'll get it. Quote
Anubis Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 The sculpt is prety good now, the intakes and hips are so much better now. Still a way more better effort than the original sculpt, and now we finally see the leg armor too, which is a plus. Still waiting to see MSRP though. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 I like it, I'm gonna buy it. Quote
Jawjaw Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Not bad. It's still has some issues and I don't like seeing all those parts but at least it looks pretty good now. Before I was not going to buy this toy, now I will get one when I can afford it. Quote
justvinnie Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Is it me or does it look like the arms have to detach and reattach to that big black piece in battroid mode? the legs I understand since that was what happened with he 1/60 VF-1's, but this is not acceptable. So basically you have to disassemble everything to transform it. Why the hell didn't they do with a slightly larger scale then? vinnie Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 hey vin i wonder the same thing. WHen I first saw the protos in the mags i was like "hey its like 1/60 yuammie" then i saw the newer pics with the shoulder units. From what I understand YES you basically arrange this much like a gundam fix variable toy. I want to know why yamato went this crappy route instead of doing a large perfect variable. If the japanese dissed this thing way back sayin this was "teh suck" on the BBS imode went on back then, imagine what they are saying NOW with these new pics!! Quote
Graham Posted September 27, 2004 Author Posted September 27, 2004 Is it me or does it look like the arms have to detach and reattach to that big black piece in battroid mode? vinnie Yep, that's basically how it looks Graham Quote
Wabbit Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Hope the materials are durable with this swapping of parts... Quote
Limbo Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Why bother to make it transformable if you have to swap half of the parts off? Defeats the point of being transformable, IMO... And even with the swappable parts the toy is still far from accurate. This is not transformable. It is combinable at it best. I rather have 3 superposeables on each mode than this half-@ss "transformation". Quote
NoSuchFile Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Why bother to make it transformable if you have to swap half of the parts off? Defeats the point of being transformable, IMO... And even with the swappable parts the toy is still far from accurate. This is not transformable. It is combinable at it best.I rather have 3 superposeables on each mode than this half-@ss "transformation". I know what u mean, this is a total dissapointement comming from Yamato, plus add the head lasers that makes it even worst, too bad they didn't bother to make something nice for Macross Zero, the OVA deserves better than that. Quote
Graham Posted September 28, 2004 Author Posted September 28, 2004 I'm still trying to figure out what all the parts displayed in the latest Dengeki Hobby pic of the 1/100 VF-0S are (see the unmodified pic on page 14 of this thread). Most of the parts are pretty obvious, but there are two parts that I can't quite figure out what they are. 1. FAST Packs. 2. Gunpod. 3. Battroid mode neck piece. 4. Battroid left and right mode shoulder joint sockets. 5. Battroid mode 'collar bone' piece (fits between chest and back plates). 6. Battroid mode nose/hip joint piece w/heatshield. 7. Hands. 8. Front landing gear door for gear-up mode. 9. Rear landing gear doors for gear-up mode. 10. Front landing gear? 11. ???????? 12. ???????? Any suggestions regarding numbers 11 and 12? I'm thinking that number 12 might be a connector for use with the Yamato display arm, but I'm not sure. Graham Quote
Ido Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 (edited) Number 10 looks like the hand for holding the gunpod to me, it can't be a landing gear anyway, we saw the landing gears from the hobby expo and they are bigger and completely different. Number 11 can be another hand as well, probably it have a 4 hand set, notice that N 10 and 11 are placed near the gunpod. Number 12 can be a clip for the yamato stand, we never saw that piece, judging by the position it can't be something related to the chest, its placed near the gunpod so or it can be something ralated to it, but it loks something extra to me. This Vf-0S looks like with landing gear down this explain why we see the landing gear hatchs used for landing gear up pose and no landing gear at all. Edited September 28, 2004 by Ido Quote
GobotFool Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 I'm still trying to figure out what all the parts displayed in the latest Dengeki Hobby pic of the 1/100 VF-0S are (see the unmodified pic on page 14 of this thread). Most of the parts are pretty obvious, but there are two parts that I can't quite figure out what they are.1. FAST Packs. 2. Gunpod. 3. Battroid mode neck piece. 4. Battroid left and right mode shoulder joint sockets. 5. Battroid mode 'collar bone' piece (fits between chest and back plates). 6. Battroid mode nose/hip joint piece w/heatshield. 7. Hands. 8. Front landing gear door for gear-up mode. 9. Rear landing gear doors for gear-up mode. 10. Front landing gear? 11. ???????? 12. ???????? Any suggestions regarding numbers 11 and 12? I'm thinking that number 12 might be a connector for use with the Yamato display arm, but I'm not sure. Graham I've said it before, I'll say it again. That is not a transforming toy, that's a lego set! Quote
nightmareB4macross Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 Now you can really see the new and true quality of the Macross Zero Products from Yamato, it seems more along the lines of Banpresto 1/100 valkyries. Who knows, maybe you could just swap parts with the banpresto valks and make your own experimental type valk. What's next 1/100 Konig with swapple turret barrels for robot mode fingers? Quote
Ido Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 The banpresto valks scale is under 1/120 for sure the 1/100 Vf-0 is probably more the twice the size of a banpresto and it's NOT a VERY cheap game prize, however we will not pay what we payed for the expensive 1/48 line, i Just wish that the small scale will help to make also the vf-0D, SV-51, complete weapon set for sv-51/vf-0, destroid Cheyenne and maybe the M0 monster, this time I want enemy mecha and destroids! Quote
Graham Posted September 29, 2004 Author Posted September 29, 2004 Number 10 looks like the hand for holding the gunpod to me, it can't be a landing gear anyway, we saw the landing gears from the hobby expo and they are bigger and completely different. Number 11 can be another hand as well, probably it have a 4 hand set, notice that N 10 and 11 are placed near the gunpod. After close study of the actual pic in the magazine, as it's a bit clearer than the scan I did, I think you are correct that # 11 & 12 are hands. Graham Quote
Graham Posted September 29, 2004 Author Posted September 29, 2004 Now you can really see the new and true quality of the Macross Zero Products from Yamato, it seems more along the lines of Banpresto 1/100 valkyries. IIRC, the Banprestos Valks were perfect transformation. The Yamato VF-0S is about as far from perfect transformation as you can get. Graham Quote
Ido Posted September 29, 2004 Posted September 29, 2004 After close study of the actual pic in the magazine, as it's a bit clearer than the scan I did, I think you are correct that # 11 & 12 are hands.Graham Part 10 and 11 number 12 is too big for an hand So if we are right: 1. FAST Packs. 2. Gunpod. 3. Battroid mode neck piece. 4. Battroid left and right mode shoulder joint sockets. 5. Battroid mode 'collar bone' piece (fits between chest and back plates). 6. Battroid mode nose/hip joint piece w/heatshield. 7. Closed hands. 8. Front landing gear door for gear-up mode. 9. Rear landing gear doors for gear-up mode. 10. Hand for the gunpod 1 (left hand IMO) 11. Hand for the gunpod 2 (Right hand IMO) 12. Clip for Yamato stand??? Graham if you have time, may you do an higer resolution scan of this single photo if it will be clearer? Quote
Godzilla Posted September 30, 2004 Posted September 30, 2004 Now you can really see the new and true quality of the Macross Zero Products from Yamato, it seems more along the lines of Banpresto 1/100 valkyries. IIRC, the Banprestos Valks were perfect transformation. The Yamato VF-0S is about as far from perfect transformation as you can get. Graham Aint that the truth. Quote
Graham Posted September 30, 2004 Author Posted September 30, 2004 After close study of the actual pic in the magazine, as it's a bit clearer than the scan I did, I think you are correct that # 11 & 12 are hands.Graham Part 10 and 11 number 12 is too big for an hand Whoops, I meant parts # 10 and 11 Graham Quote
Graham Posted September 30, 2004 Author Posted September 30, 2004 Even despite the Lego like design of this toy, I'll still be happy as long as they change just two things: - 1) Resculpt the wing trailing edge. 2) Change the head lasers so they are not angled out so much. I can live with all the other inaccuracies Graham Quote
eugimon Posted September 30, 2004 Posted September 30, 2004 I'm thinking the head lasers can be bent into shape with some hot water to aid the re-shaping... but the odd wing shape... though, now I'm thinking with so many parts needed for swapping... they can't really call this thing a transforming toy.. they should have just released 3 seperate toys. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted September 30, 2004 Posted September 30, 2004 I say CAN it!! Just stop it!! UGH. God this is like a gashapon on STEROID!! Even the gundam ZETA MSIA has LESS parts and thats just SAD. I don't give a shi* out of proportion or not but stuff like this makes me want a bandai VF-0 in anyw way shape or form in perfect variable chunkiness. Quote
Ido Posted September 30, 2004 Posted September 30, 2004 Even despite the Lego like design of this toy, I'll still be happy as long as they change just two things: -1) Resculpt the wing trailing edge. 2) Change the head lasers so they are not angled out so much. I can live with all the other inaccuracies Graham I can stand the wings, its not a Yamato fault, there is a lot of anime magic involved in the VF-0 wings, they are really short in Battroid mode., i think they just used the first CG model of the Vf-0S for sculpt the wings as they are shorter that the actual wings in the oav. What i'm not happy is the nose, its too small and they have not excuse for this! The head isn't a problem i'm sure it can be fix, remember that we'll get the "A" variant too. And remember that the 1/48 vf-1 shapes aren't perfect too I'm pretty sure that there isn't (or very little) anime magic in the vf-0D delta wings, so make that damn D variant!!! I can't understand this perfect transformation smania, will you really play with a 150$ PT toy? even if the 1/48 have PT the transformation isn't really fast and I need a table to do it without damages and avery time I have to detache fastpacks and weapons, it have stability problems due to its size too. This Vf-0S is a posable action figure that you can assemble as fighter, gerwalk or battroid, if you are going to just expose it what change swap or PT? Quote
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