Aurel Tristen Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 Enjoy: http://manuals.macrossmecha.info/va3.pdf Quote
mikeszekely Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 I'm getting errors when trying to connect. Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 7, 2004 Author Posted March 7, 2004 I'm getting errors when trying to connect. You can also try http://manuals.macrossmecha.info/va3.html Quote
maxjenius81 Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 w00t finally some more concrete info on the VA-3, good job! Quote
Isamu Atreides 86 Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 i like the design, especially the Gun Pod. looks like the A-10's gun. did this one ever make an appearance in the series? Quote
maxjenius81 Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 The basic VA-3 wasnt ever in anything as far as i know, the VA-3C civllian version showed up in Macross 7 Dynamite and the VA-3M marine (water) version was in Digital Mission VF-X 2 Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 8, 2004 Author Posted March 8, 2004 i like the design, especially the Gun Pod. looks like the A-10's gun. did this one ever make an appearance in the series? VA-3C Customs can be seen in Macross Dynamite 7 and the VA-3M is seen in the Macross VF-X 2 PS game. Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 8, 2004 Author Posted March 8, 2004 I think it interesting that a variable aircraft that doesn't have afterburners was created.... but it performs its role quite well apparently. Quote
Graham Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 Great job WJ. The VA-3M is one of my favorite Macross mecha. Graham Quote
Gerwalker Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 Nanashi, Thanks for this new info. Very interesting. The lack of afterburners is really strange (considering all the thermonuclear engine discussions and so...) I can't figure out how that amorphous thing could go supersonic. IMHO It's shape is really bulky and not very supersonic... What I like a lot is the likeness between battroid mode and what is called in your translation as Zjentohlauedy tactical pod. Is that the Zentradi general-issue powered suit (a.k.a. Nousjadeul-Ger)?? Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 8, 2004 Author Posted March 8, 2004 (edited) Nanashi,Thanks for this new info. Very interesting. The lack of afterburners is really strange (considering all the thermonuclear engine discussions and so...) I can't figure out how that amorphous thing could go supersonic. IMHOÂ It's shape is really bulky and not very supersonic... What I like a lot is the likeness between battroid mode and what is called in your translation as Zjentohlauedy tactical pod. Is that the Zentradi general-issue powered suit (a.k.a. Nousjadeul-Ger)?? The TIAS MP text says Zjentohlaeudy Tactical Pod specifically. Now if you read the Quel-Quallie text in the Perfect Memory (See here: http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...l-quallie.html) it states that the Zjentohlauedy designation formula dictates all mecha that do not possess a fold system are classified as pods-- so the powered suits would be considered a pod as well. Edited March 8, 2004 by Nanashi Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 9, 2004 Author Posted March 9, 2004 Layout changes and additional pictures will be added soon (VA-3C Custom and VA-3M). Quote
Southcross Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 (edited) Looks like an A-6 Intruder buffed up. yep, mecha steroids nice job Nanashi Edited March 9, 2004 by Southcross Quote
Gerwalker Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Nanashi,Thanks for this new info. Very interesting. The lack of afterburners is really strange (considering all the thermonuclear engine discussions and so...) I can't figure out how that amorphous thing could go supersonic. IMHOÂ It's shape is really bulky and not very supersonic... What I like a lot is the likeness between battroid mode and what is called in your translation as Zjentohlauedy tactical pod. Is that the Zentradi general-issue powered suit (a.k.a. Nousjadeul-Ger)?? The TIAS MP text says Zjentohlaeudy Tactical Pod specifically. Now if you read the Quel-Quallie text in the Perfect Memory (See here: http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...l-quallie.html) it states that the Zjentohlauedy designation formula dictates all mecha that do not possess a fold system are classified as pods-- so the powered suits would be considered a pod as well. Thanks! So everything without folding system is a pod. That could be OK as a generic rule but not to mention any specific pod. As tactical pod could be almost any Zentradi mecha there should be other indication of the type (as for instance the Regult Tactical Pod): Nanashi's Regult page So, it is a Nousjadeul-Ger Tactical Pod what the VA-3 resembles? Isn't it? Quote
fulcy Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Makes me want to pull out my unbuilt Revell 1/48th A-6, and see how hard of a conversion it'd be... Quote
Southcross Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Makes me want to pull out my unbuilt Revell 1/48th A-6, and see how hard of a conversion it'd be... :drools: that is such a kewl idear... might just have to add that to my Model Monstrosities wish list Quote
Gerwalker Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Makes me want to pull out my unbuilt Revell 1/48th A-6, and see how hard of a conversion it'd be... It should be as easy as converting a F-14 to a VF-1... Before Hasegawa brings us the YF-21 I spent a lot of my free time trying to figure out how to convert a YF-23 into Guld's valk... they look very similar but the differences are too big too. Quote
Southcross Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Makes me want to pull out my unbuilt Revell 1/48th A-6, and see how hard of a conversion it'd be... It should be as easy as converting a F-14 to a VF-1... Before Hasegawa brings us the YF-21 I spent a lot of my free time trying to figure out how to convert a YF-23 into Guld's valk... they look very similar but the differences are too big too. the problem with F-14s is that they are not proportionally the same as teh VF. the F-14 is too long.. but by itself no one would probably notice Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 9, 2004 Author Posted March 9, 2004 Nanashi,Thanks for this new info. Very interesting. The lack of afterburners is really strange (considering all the thermonuclear engine discussions and so...) I can't figure out how that amorphous thing could go supersonic. IMHOÂ It's shape is really bulky and not very supersonic... What I like a lot is the likeness between battroid mode and what is called in your translation as Zjentohlauedy tactical pod. Is that the Zentradi general-issue powered suit (a.k.a. Nousjadeul-Ger)?? The TIAS MP text says Zjentohlaeudy Tactical Pod specifically. Now if you read the Quel-Quallie text in the Perfect Memory (See here: http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat...l-quallie.html) it states that the Zjentohlauedy designation formula dictates all mecha that do not possess a fold system are classified as pods-- so the powered suits would be considered a pod as well. Thanks! So everything without folding system is a pod. That could be OK as a generic rule but not to mention any specific pod. As tactical pod could be almost any Zentradi mecha there should be other indication of the type (as for instance the Regult Tactical Pod): Nanashi's Regult page So, it is a Nousjadeul-Ger Tactical Pod what the VA-3 resembles? Isn't it? The Battroid mode of the VA-3 Invader has likeness to the Nousjadeul-Ger powered suit (a type of tactical pod). Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 10, 2004 Author Posted March 10, 2004 (edited) I was wondering if anyone here has an idea or knows what the VA-3C Custom's Morris Pair (?) storage tank/divert-er/ing expansion pod refers to? I don't think its just a fuel tank-perhaps it is like a recee storage pod (pilot's personal belongings)? or a coolant tank? Or perhaps something else. Discussion? Edited March 10, 2004 by Nanashi Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 11, 2004 Author Posted March 11, 2004 Probably the back mounted FAST Packs No. Actually its a different item. For clarification see the image below: Quote
Skull Leader Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 (edited) It would be easy to write that off as a personal storage unit... but so far away from the cockpit?? The fact that it's externally/pylon mounted makes me question. Still, I don't see what else it could be. I suppose it could serve as an external drop tank for extra fuel/reaction mass. Maybe it could contain some of that goo that the Zolan defense forces used in their guns? The only other thing I could think of is that it would hold extra gunpod ammo. Sorry WJ, I'm pretty stumped on this one. Edited March 11, 2004 by Skull Leader Quote
daeudi Posted March 11, 2004 Posted March 11, 2004 FAS showed nothing, neither did my aircraft encyclopedia. Considering it's use in M7:tGiCM, this link popping up in a search was amusing to me. http://www.artofthemix.org/FindAMix/getcon...?strMixID=22245 Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 11, 2004 Author Posted March 11, 2004 FAS showed nothing, neither did my aircraft encyclopedia.Considering it's use in M7:tGiCM, this link popping up in a search was amusing to me. http://www.artofthemix.org/FindAMix/getcon...?strMixID=22245 The VA-3C Custom is in Macross Dynamite 7 OVAs, not the Macross 7 movie. Quote
Boxer Posted March 12, 2004 Posted March 12, 2004 Well the invader IS aquatic (At least the M type) I would guess an additional air tank? Quote
Skull Leader Posted March 12, 2004 Posted March 12, 2004 only the VA-3M is underwater-capable, although I suppose such a tank could be found on the 3M's also. Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 12, 2004 Author Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) Hmm.... what operations make use of the processes of diverting and/or expansion...? Cooling/Refrigeration... and what else? Edited March 12, 2004 by Nanashi Quote
Skull Leader Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 If it had a rapid-fire weapon of some sort (besides a harpoon gun), it could serve as a coolant tank for heat diversion I suppose, but that would be an awfully large tank for such a job. I'll grant that it's possible, but it seems highly unlikely. Coolant for heat exchange in the engines would also be possible, but again; unlikely. Still no concrete idea here. Quote
Boxer Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 Diverting could refer to a jammer system or holographic decoy device (???) Quote
Aurel Tristen Posted March 13, 2004 Author Posted March 13, 2004 Diverting could refer to a jammer system or holographic decoy device (???) I don't think so... they would have just written electronic warfare or something related to it. http://manuals.macrossmecha.info/va3.html : / hmm... Quote
Boxer Posted March 13, 2004 Posted March 13, 2004 Interesting note: The 'Morris Pair' system only has one pod mounted on the inside of the left wing- suggesting whatever it is, is two of whatever inside that pod. Quote
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