Stealth Escort Attack Aircraft Carrier

[EganLoo]

The previous thread was closed, but it contained some grave inaccuracies that are worth correcting.

There is no data for fighter compliment.... only for the CV-7 (New Macross class)

It is inaccurate to designate the Macross 7 fleet flagship as the CV-7, despite the "07" hull number and other indications. This is fan speculation.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...ps/new_macross/

"Uraga" is not a class of ship, it was merely a ship of that line, same goes for the Guantanamo.

It is inaccurate to say that Uraga is not a class of ship. According to mechanical designer Kazataka Miyatake's production materials, the Uraga (unlike the Guantanamo) is specifically the name of the ship class also.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...ns/ships/uraga/

Again, Uraga is not a class. That type of ship was also seen in Macross Plus in the Earth defense parameter. Which had a hull number of CV-216 that was not the same class as the Guantánamo (CV-299). There was also a ship that was the same type as the Guantánamo which had a hull number of CV-572 (Macross Plus). So your numbering arguement is not valid.

Again, Uraga is the name of the ship class. These hull numbers in Macross Plus were not written by Kazataka Miyatake. It is inaccurate to assume that surface detailing means identical ship classes. According to Kazataka Miyatake's design notes, there is specifically no Uraga class ship in that era that is supposed to have a hull number below the 400s.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...ns/ships/uraga/

'VC-551' was a mistake made by Masahiro Chiba (official Macross 7 mecha specifications writer) that appeared in the VF-X Flight Manual book.

It is inaccurate to say that 'VC-551' was a mistake made by Masahiro Chiba. Masahiro Chiba did not write "VC-551" anywhere in the Macross Digital Mission VF-X Flight Manual book. Please do not blame him for the mistake you had made.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...ws.chatlink.com

This is why I making my website. Too many people go to role-playing sites and think the information is accurate when it is not.

No comment.

Studio Nue is, primarily, responsible for the original sketches/line-art which would contain the numbers written on the hull which later get made into cels and painted.

It is inaccurate to imply that Studio Nue is ultimately responsible for the numbers written on the hull of all cels. Kazutaka Miyatake of Studio Nue drew the mechanical design for the Uraga class, but the only hull numbers he wrote on his Uraga class carrier design in the Macross Plus/7 era is 404, 406, 412, and 417.

Mr. Miyatake is not responsible for the other numbers that would later get painted onto Macross Plus cels. (Triangle Staff was the actual studio that was responsible for the physically painting of cels, not Studio Nue.)

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...ns/ships/uraga/

http://www.anime.net/macross/production/an...ve_action/plus/

I also have a question regarding your Promethius super carrier entry. In it you state that the carriers production cost soared to 200 billion dollars, is this in Yen or US dollars? 200 billion seems like such a high number for only 1 carrier seeing that the US's defense budget comes to about 350 billion for all the armed services. Also a typical Nimitz class carrier only cost the US about 2 billion dollars but final cost comes to about 4-5 billion after the carrier is fully equipped with fighters and electronics.

The information above is a) mistranslated and b) unofficial.

The Macross Attack Team (a.k.a. "Multi-configulation Analysis Team") fan doujinshi team wrote that the construction costs were 15 billion, 2 million dollars, *not* 200 billion dollars. The above is simply a bad mistranslation by a magnitude.

Please keep in mind that this information is unofficial in any case. The Macross Attack Team members have long separated their later official work from their speculative opinions they held as fans.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...ips/prometheus/

I would just like to defend nanashi in saying, over the four or so years I have known him, he has always come through with obscure information when I requested it, including images, which Egan Loo has never provided.

I have sent emails to Egan Loo a number of times in the past, usually they are completely ignored.

You (and everyone else who emails me) have my apologies for the growth of my email backlog. Since launching the Macross Compendium (which will be a decade old next year), my volume of email has grown steadily. This is especially true during spring and summer, when conventions increase my mail log just when I'm travelling the most.

I am making an effort to answer each email message received in 2003 and 2004. I have been held up by a lengthy illness and a longer than planned trip to Japan, but with patience, I plan to maintain this goal this year. (As a side note, I cannot offer images without obtaining permission from the copyright holders.)

My first and foremost priority is accuracy with official current information. I -- as probably most people -- would rather be accurate. It's better to be accurate than be fast and obscure -- but ultimately wrong and speculative.

[Hoptimus]

Hey thanks for the info Egan.

It has been a while.

[EganLoo]

[Related to the previously closed topic:]

For a discussion of copyrights that is beyond the focus of this forum, please see:

http://www.whatiscopyright.org/

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html

Please see the sections about translation (considered an adaptation under copyright) and fair use.

In short, all copyrights for derivative and adapted works (including translations) belong to the copyright holder of the original work, not the deriver or the adaptor. The deriver or adaptor does not own any copyrights unless unless permission is obtained from the original copyright holder.

Fair use is a principle with special conditions, and it only applies to the use of the work. It does not imply ownership of the work.

Further discussion of these issues might best be taken to another forum, or even another site.

That's the start of Copyrights 101.

[Jester]

Cheers Egan, you are the man

[daeudi]

First off- Egan, glad you are feeling better- Graham had us worried about you

(actually first off I wanted shout "Tag and Score!" but thought it would be too immature of me.)

Thank you, as being the only OFFICIAL English Macross source on the net, for clearing all those points up.