rnurmin Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Nice packaging type on the Queadlunn Rau Not too impress with the VF-0 sculpt, but hey, maybe the final product will look different. I am very impressed with Hasegawa's SV-51 kit. Like all the other MW'ers, I might have to pick this kit up and see it closely myself Quote
MrDisco Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 the m&ms look very nice. i'ld pick those up in a heartbeat if i had the $ Quote
bsu legato Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 A low-vis SV-51 would be pretty sweet. Isn't the "Cannon Fodder" SV-51 already low vis-ish? Of course, Hasegawa will wait and offer it as a variant kit. Quote
imode Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Battroid on the VF0 is sweet. Plane is mad fugly. Something about the nose area looks squashed. Maybe they forgot to swap the correct nose back into place. The SV-51 however, is looking as beautiful as usual. Bonus points for Hasegawa, minus points for Yamato. Quote
Angel's Fury Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) From the pics what really caught my attention is the SUPER HUGLY Legs conectors to the NOSE of the plane, a bit out of all proportion.Generally speaking the planes looks very very nice, I wonder how solid this things will be. Hope better than a 1/60, taking in consideration there is NO DIECAST and NO ABS... just cheap PVC injection. Sebastian, I have mentioned before that the toys will feature some ABS, they are not all PVC. Also, Yamato told me that the leg connnectors are being made smaller (they know they look ugly). Also, the shoulder armor will be elongated as at the moment it is too short. Remember this is not the final sculpt. BTW, I've just updated the magazine section with scans of the new Hobby Japan (6 pages) and the Dengeki Hobby (4 pages). I've also updated the custom gallery section. Check out the update section. Graham Thanks for the pics Graham! You've slowly convinced me that this VF-0 toy isn't all that bad. Once they've implented the necessary changes to perfect it's appearance, and posted the final prototype sculp, then maybe, just maybe I might purchase the toy. Btw, they did a good job with the packaging of the Q-Rau! I'll certainly buy one or two of those. Battroid on the VF0 is sweet. Plane is mad fugly. Something about the nose area looks squashed. Maybe they forgot to swap the correct nose back into place. Yeah! I noticed that too! They'll probably fix that for sure. The SV-51 however, is looking as beautiful as usual. Indeed! Edited February 24, 2004 by Angel's Fury Quote
Nani?! Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Jeezzz people... No wonder Yamato is so iffy on releasing proto photos. You guys have to take into account that this is a prototype. I mean, if anything, seeing what some of the model makers here can do (like master WM cheng) with pieces of plastic, we should at least criticize constructively. For a 1/100 figure I think it looks AWESOME. Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Macross 0 series and I'd say it does it justice given the small size. And the landing gear aint THAT bad... Overall, I think it's great. I'm preordering one when it's available. I just hope they introduce more of these babies, like shin's 0. Again, Graham, you rock! The recent abundance of updates make me happy! Quote
GRAND CANNON Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 ........I just hope they introduce more of these babies, like shin's 0. ....... Yeah, VF-0D, baby!!! Quote
imode Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) Jeezzz people... No wonder Yamato is so iffy on releasing proto photos.  You guys have to take into account that this is a prototype. Hmm, but if you look at the MW section on toys, and all the other pictures everywhere, the prototype is almost 99% the finished toy. Don't expect the finished product to look that much different. Now that I look at it, if they're going with part swap, they should make a bigger head too. *editedit: Too Yamato's credit, that's a much nicer shade of blue than they have shown previously for Max's 1J. Edited February 24, 2004 by imode Quote
wolfx Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 The Q-rau indeed looks nice. How much does it cost for those who have pre-ordered? MmMMm....shiny.... Abit off topic, but the M&Ms on the magazine scan has black canopies! w00ts!! But the ones shown in the Wonder Festival 2004 thread still have their red/blue canopies respectively. So...what color are the canopies gonna be? Quote
Hurricane29 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 The OS looks ok, what worries me is the whole shoulder/arm area, looks very, very fragile. The 51 on the other is looking great. Can't wait to have an Ivanov type. Quote
Angel's Fury Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) The Q-rau indeed looks nice. How much does it cost for those who have pre-ordered? MmMMm....shiny....Abit off topic, but the M&Ms on the magazine scan has black canopies! w00ts!! But the ones shown in the Wonder Festival 2004 thread still have their red/blue canopies respectively. So...what color are the canopies gonna be? Check with Kevin. I think it was $115 w/ s&p. To be sure like I said, check with Kevin at the macross dealer announcements part of the forum. Jeezzz people... No wonder Yamato is so iffy on releasing proto photos.  You guys have to take into account that this is a prototype. Hmm, but if you look at the MW section on toys, and all the other pictures everywhere, the prototype is almost 99% the finished toy. Don't expect the finished product to look that much different. Now that I look at it, if they're going with part swap, they should make a bigger head too. *editedit: Too Yamato's credit, that's a much nicer shade of blue than they have shown previously for Max's 1J Other than the front landing gear and actually painting it, that'll be close to the final sculpt. Edited February 24, 2004 by Angel's Fury Quote
JELEINEN Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I think it looks pretty good. I think most of the complaints I've seen (skinny arms, flat nose, etc) could be made of the animated original. Quote
Shmitty Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 AHH!! Every time i see new photos of the M&M 1/48's, the Q-rau, and the 1/100 VF-0, I want them more and more. But alas, too many macross items in a short period of time, barely enough for one during the entire time period... Owell, maybe there will still be Q-raus left when I have enough to buy one. Quote
Skull Leader Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I, for one, am pretty excited about the VF-0... sure it doesn't look perfect... even if it isn't the final sculpt, I'm sure people will find a million and one things that they dont' like, but I still think it's gonna rock.... Quote
Mechafan Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 The VF-0 for the price is not bad just a little tweaking and it will be fine The SV-51 looks awesome. The Q-Rau box has a lot of wasted space in it. The VF-1J Max color looks a lot better. Quote
twich Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Thanks Graham! Those pictures are awesome! I really am looking forward to the Yamato 1/100 VF-0S!! I think the sculpt is very nice and I am eagerly anticipating this toy release! I cant wait to see Yamato's SV-51 and VF-0D! The pictures of the SV-51 model is very nice....Too bad I suck at modelling...I really like the looks of that model and the toy sculpt. Graham, any ETA on the arrival of this toy? I am really looking forward to its release. Thanks for posting the pics....keep them coming. Larry Quote
Nani?! Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Hmm, but if you look at the MW section on toys, and all the other pictures everywhere, the prototype is almost 99% the finished toy. Don't expect the finished product to look that much different. I'm aware that the prototype we see here is pretty close to the final. And... IMHO, I think it looks more than decent. Add to that some paint and a nice pimpin box, I think it'll look great. You gotta be REALLY picky to be saying this rendition of the vf-0 is "ugly." It's not perfect, but I think they did well considering the size (and target price group) they had to work with. you just dun like it because it's not 1/48! true, no? Peace. no beef. Quote
imode Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 You gotta be REALLY picky to be saying this rendition of the vf-0 is "ugly." It's not perfect, but I think they did well considering the size (and target price group) they had to work with. you just dun like it because it's not 1/48! true, no? Peace. no beef. No. The cockpit in plane mode reminds me off the 1/72 YF-21's proportions where it was "snubbed" giving it a shorter cockpit in planemode but looking decent in battroid. Landing gear really is hideous though. If they make something perfect transformable, then I can overlook the proportion mistakes and such. If you're going to have swappable parts, the thing should look good in all modes. Quote
Nani?! Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Did anyone else notice that the canopy of the max and millia are black in the pics graham posted? Wonder which one's the final version. Quote
Mechamaniac Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 The Max 1J in that pic looks darker, too. I wonder if it is a light effect or did they really darken the tint a hair. This one looks way better than the previous one we saw. Man, I hope so. The one on HLJ's web site is way too light colored. Quote
duckie81 Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Maybe its just me, but i'm so not feeling the VF-0S. It just doesn't look right in B. mode, its more legs than body, etc. I had high hopes for the VF-0 toy too, since i really dig the VF-0. Hopefully the production model will look better and maybe i need to see it in color for a better perspective on it. Quote
Knight26 Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Is it just me or do the missile launchers on the legs of the 1:60 Millia Q-Rau look like they are swapable pieces, where the closed disk is one and the open exposing the missiles is another? It would make sense if they were, otherwise the knee joint would be way too big and spherical, looks good to me though. I also agree that the Max VF-1J looks better in the darker blue, man they need to make it even darker though, a midnight blue valk, that would be cool. Ok that's just wishful thinking on my part, but I want a midnight blue VF-1D in 1:48, that would the ultimate for me. As for the VF-0, hey's a prototype and subject to major changes, I'm sure the production version will be much better, and since they are making it smaller and of less expensive materials it should be easier on all our pocket books. I just hope they make the chest place a little bigger, seems small to me in battroid mode. Quote
Jawjaw Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Jeezzz people... No wonder Yamato is so iffy on releasing proto photos. You guys have to take into account that this is a prototype. I mean, if anything, seeing what some of the model makers here can do (like master WM cheng) with pieces of plastic, we should at least criticize constructively. For a 1/100 figure I think it looks AWESOME. Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Macross 0 series and I'd say it does it justice given the small size. And the landing gear aint THAT bad... Overall, I think it's great. I'm preordering one when it's available. I just hope they introduce more of these babies, like shin's 0. Again, Graham, you rock! The recent abundance of updates make me happy! True to some degree. However, I just found little to be excited about. Comparing it to model makers doesn't make any sense to me. A good model maker can't do that much with a bad looking model without modifications. Now the VF-0s does not look that bad but it's not looking all that great to me either. Quote
Sebastian Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 By the way. Did you guys saw the SIZE of that box? I mean the Q Rau? It is gonna be BIG. Hooooo the shipping cost. No way that can be considered a small package. The good thing is I am in China, so no prob for me. hehehe Quote
Sebastian Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Hmm.....the Phoenix IS ugly! Phoenix? Wrong thread? Quote
Firefox Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 I'll give VF-0 a miss for sure, be it Hasegawa model or Yamato one. It's too closely resemble to VF-1. I like SV-51, its a fresh design, least to say. I like Su-27 as well Quote
Aegis! Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Hmm.....the Phoenix IS ugly! Phoenix? Wrong thread? nope , he´s right. The VF-0 is called VF-0 Phoenix , it was named that way since M0 was first announced. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Ya knwo out of all yamatos toys this is the cheapest and mos affordable and from the start was made to be simple. If it was 1.48 scale I would definitely be complaining about how ugly it is. I think it loooks decent again i was not expecting much and the landing gear on mine will most liely be off most of the time. I wish we could have fully painted pics with the missles and FAst packs attacched. NOw that would probably change some minds but like I said, its not a 1.48 scale toy so again i was not expecting perfection. And I do agree however..if its swap transformation I would expect good proportions too. Quote
Graham Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 Hmm.....the Phoenix IS ugly! Phoenix? Wrong thread? nope , he´s right. The VF-0 is called VF-0 Phoenix , it was named that way since M0 was first announced. Actually, I'm not sure the name Phoenix is official. Yes, it was mentioned very early on, on the Compendium IIRC. However, the name has not been published anywhere else since AFAIK, and even the Compendium no longer uses the name Phoenix. Graham Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Hey Graham when will yamato let loose the promo press photos they always put out? Ya know like those real nice pics they always give out like the 1/48 preview ones....when you and shawn first unveiled it in april 02? I really want to see what the VF-0 would look like in those photos. Quote
GobotFool Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 The chest and arm sculpt on the VF-0 look really nice to me. It’s the leg sculpt that bother me. It's already been mentioned that the hip nubs, connecting the legs to the body, are oversized; I also think the hip joint connecting the upper intake and the lower legs are too prominent (you know the joint that makes gerwalk mode possible). The over prominence of this particular joint, I feel, is probably what reminds people the most of the banpresto. If this part were played down I think that would do a lot to improve the over all look of the toy. For those complaining about the PVC content, while I have my reservations as well, don’t forget the 1/60th is also a mixed material toy, of ABS, PVC, and Diecast. Quote
Neova Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 By the way. Did you guys saw the SIZE of that box? I mean the Q Rau? It is gonna be BIG. Hooooo the shipping cost. No way that can be considered a small package. The good thing is I am in China, so no prob for me. hehehe When you come down to HK, you can pick yours up! Snicker... Quote
Neova Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Another case of puny head same as that of the 1/60 scale.Cheers This bothered me a lot also. The scaling between it and the 3D model is off or looks to be. Its good to hear the nosecone to leg joints will be revised but that little dinky zit of a head... I guess we can hope Yamato will fix that. The rest of the sculpt looks pretty good to me though. Yamato, can I get my VF-0S with a side of SV-51 and yes, both Supersized (aka 1/48). Thanks. Quote
Anubis Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 (edited) I'm still guessing the bigger one will be 1/60. Will be in line with the VF-1's 1/48. 1/60 is usually what normally follows a 1/100 anyway. If the legs are secure I will get one of the 1/100 0S's. A 0D when they do that as well. Edited February 25, 2004 by Anubis Quote
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