Graham Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Guys, here's the pics of the Yamato 1/100 scale VF-0S 'simple transformation' prototype from the new April 2004 issue of Dengeki Hobby magazine. Gotta say I think the front landing gear is extremely ugly, which is a shame considering it's a detachable peice, so IMO they could have sculpted it much better. Also, IMO the tail fins look a little small and the shape of the wing trailing edge is not exactly correct. Graham Quote
Graham Posted February 24, 2004 Author Posted February 24, 2004 And here's a page from the new April Hobby Japan, with a first look at the Hasegawa SV-51. Graham Quote
buddhafabio Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 wow , humm i was never a real fan of the sz-51 but this may make me reconsider Quote
Sebastian Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) Clearly Yamato has done this toys giving to the Fighter mode all the emphasis... as usual. Too bad... for me. From the pics what really caught my attention is the SUPER HUGLY Legs conectors to the NOSE of the plane, a bit out of all proportion. Nora plane looks SWEET! As Graham said the VF 0 nose landing gear looks horrible. Generally speaking the planes looks very very nice, I wonder how solid this things will be. Hope better than a 1/60, taking in consideration there is NO DIECAST and NO ABS... just cheap PVC injection. Thanks for the pics Graham!! Edited February 24, 2004 by Sebastian Quote
TheFrenchOne Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Thanks for the pics. The Q-Rau box looks good, i will may be change my mind and grab one. This VF-0 is a proto, as all of you i hope they will improve the look of their ugly landing gear Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Hmph... the VF-0S sure looks like a chicken with out feathers ready to be deep fried . As for the SV-51 impressive. Quote
Graham Posted February 24, 2004 Author Posted February 24, 2004 From the pics what really caught my attention is the SUPER HUGLY Legs conectors to the NOSE of the plane, a bit out of all proportion.Generally speaking the planes looks very very nice, I wonder how solid this things will be. Hope better than a 1/60, taking in consideration there is NO DIECAST and NO ABS... just cheap PVC injection. Sebastian, I have mentioned before that the toys will feature some ABS, they are not all PVC. Also, Yamato told me that the leg connnectors are being made smaller (they know they look ugly). Also, the shoulder armor will be elongated as at the moment it is too short. Remember this is not the final sculpt. BTW, I've just updated the magazine section with scans of the new Hobby Japan (6 pages) and the Dengeki Hobby (4 pages). I've also updated the custom gallery section. Check out the update section. Graham Quote
eriku Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Wow...Yamato seems to have taken a few steps backward on the VF-0S. The wonky transformation turned me off originally, but now this ugly proto has me even more worried. At least Nora's looks good so far. Quote
Golden Arms Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 The VF-0 arms look a little thin and too short as well. I've also changed my mind on the Q-Rau. I'm going to pick up one now as well. Quote
newca Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) nice scan, thanks sharing 1/100 is ok for me, I've got many hundred scale plastic buddies here waiting for the 0S: bandai VF-19S bandai VF-19Kai bandai VF-1S strike variable bandai VF-1S strike batroid(2) bandai VF-2SS(2) arii VF-1S fighter arii VF-1S strike batroid banpresto VF-1A CF banpresto VF-1S strike tamiya A-7 corsair II tamiya A-6 intruder academy F-14 tomcat takara? mig-27 flogger A-4M skyhawk(2) F-20 tiger shakr Yak-38 blacksmith(2) and some Gundam stuff I don't really know... Edited February 24, 2004 by newca Quote
Sebastian Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 From the pics what really caught my attention is the SUPER HUGLY Legs conectors to the NOSE of the plane, a bit out of all proportion.Generally speaking the planes looks very very nice, I wonder how solid this things will be. Hope better than a 1/60, taking in consideration there is NO DIECAST and NO ABS... just cheap PVC injection. Sebastian, I have mentioned before that the toys will feature some ABS, they are not all PVC. Also, Yamato told me that the leg connnectors are being made smaller (they know they look ugly). Also, the shoulder armor will be elongated as at the moment it is too short. Remember this is not the final sculpt. BTW, I've just updated the magazine section with scans of the new Hobby Japan (6 pages) and the Dengeki Hobby (4 pages). I've also updated the custom gallery section. Check out the update section. Graham Now I feel happy about the Zero. Well, you know I dont like PVC and 1/100.. but I dont ming getting a squad of Zeros if they are not just PVC. The connectors was the main beef to me. If is going to resize them/resculpt then everything will be much better. Glad to know they allready took that into consideration. The Dengeki and Hobby Japan pics of the Hase VF 10 are great, specially the Hobby Japan ones. Damn... I will have to get one of those kits now. Thanks G-Man! Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I know you've already mentioned that the Q-Rau has no real balance problems, Graham, but I think this the first time we've seen photos without any visible means of support - thanks! Quote
GreenGuy42 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 As-is, yea, it's ugly. With the improvements Graham says will be implemented, this could be quite a neat little toy. I mean, the VF-0 is quite a bit uglier than the VF-1 in the anime. Hell, that's half its charm to me. Quote
Anubis Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 The VF-0 looks pretty good for a work in progress IMO. Looks like it will have a lot of good detail. Again, I just hope the legs are more secure in gerwalk than the 1/60 VF-1's. The Q-rau looks just great. The packaging is nice too, but HUGE, no surprize there though. The paint job looks absolutely wonderful on that sample. The Max 1J in that pic looks darker, too. I wonder if it is a light effect or did they really darken the tint a hair. This one looks way better than the previous one we saw. What are the two things above Millia in the Q-rau box? Do you swap the closed leg missle pods for open ones? That would make sense since opening launchers like on the top would interfere with the knee anyway. I can't wait for mine to arrive. Quote
JsARCLIGHT Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I think I'm the lone disliker of the VF-0... yeeesh is that thing butt ugly! It looks lopsided and gangly... and a little too "hippy"... Give me a classic VF-1 any day of the week above these new jangled angular knockoffs from Macross Zero, they ain't doing it for me. Quote
recon Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Yucks, not to get this for sure. Another case of puny head same as that of the 1/60 scale. Cheers Quote
Anubis Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Like Graham said, it's too early to condemn the VF-0. It's a work in progress so there will be several sculpt changes as it progresses. I'm just thankful they are showing pics in these early stages. Unlike the YF-19. Quote
bandit29 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Wow the VF-0 is even uglier in the real world. Its ugly to begin with btw. The front landing gear looks bad. I know its a work in progress...hopefully it will turn out better. The Q-rau looks bad ass. I might buy two of those. Quote
Myersjessee Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Well...here is to hoping they clean it up a little...but so far, so good....wow...llove that SV51...just preordered mine! Quote
Jawjaw Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I was never much of a VF-0 fan but I am still very disappointed with that Yamato. My first impression was that it looks like a Banpresto prize catcher. The arms and joints look scrawny and everything looks so small. Granted, it is only an unpainted prototype but I hope Yamato has better things planned. Seriously. If they do a hack job on the SV-51 I will cry. :'( I hope they are starting to take notes from Hasegawa because their SV-51 looks oh so sweet. I'm not much of a modeler but I might actually get that kit. Quote
Blaine23 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 It's a neat little toy... but I'm not a big fan of neat little toys. I'll spend my money on those M&M 1/48's. I'm sure Yamato will get around to making a bigger, better VF-0 before too long. Quote
Pat S Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Can we get some line art posted in this thread? I tried pausing pictures of the VF-0 on the computer, but there aren't any good solid shots of it to compare to these prototype pics. From what I could see, Yamato did a very good job. Maybe some of you just don't like the VF-0, are not liking the scale, or the removable parts, and letting it cloud your judgement? Quote
buddhafabio Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 if you compare the arms from the toy to the arms from the 3-d model they appear to be the same dimensions so the arms are correct Quote
ZorClone Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I agree.. so far, it looks like a Banpresto toy.. it hardly looks to be worth even $20, especially with a non-perfect transformation Quote
Weaseldancer Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Hopefully, they will do a lot of improvement on the prototype. As others have said it looks like a banpresto valk. I can't see paying more than $10-15 for it as it stands now. Quote
VF-1Guy Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) I don't think the sculpt looks all that bad, but Im not sure how much desire I have to spend $40 for a toy that has a swappable nosecone and a removable landing gear - not to mention isn't in scale with anything in my collection. I have very little doubt that a larger, perfect transformation version is on the way. This one is always branded the Yamato Simple Transformation VF-0 as opposed to the Yamato VF-0 Ah, who am I kidding, I'll pick the 1/100 up. I'm addicted to valkyries after all. Edited February 29, 2004 by VF-1Guy Quote
min Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 there is a huge difference in seeing the vf-0 from a scan of a magazine and seeing the vf-0 in person. the detail on it is pretty damned nice, i would even say its more detailed than the 1/48. yamato definately knows what they are doing. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I didnt expect much after all its a simple transformation and relatively cheap. The gear are ugly but chances are id porbably make a stanmd for it in fighter mode. The hips yes are ugly but they are being made smaller..i really hoipe there is an interlocking mechanism ofd the hips so that they dont slip out like the 1/60 VF-1 over time. The head sculpt is awesome and I think the battroid mode is actually better than fighter this time around...definitely better without the gear on. Quote
Radd Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Well, keeping in mind this is not hte final sculpt I won't critisize the appearance too much. I think most people are exaggerating the bad parts anyways. I'm glad the hip connectors will be made smaller. One thing that always bothered me about the VF-1 toys, the hips had these huge bulges that didn't look any better than a swing bar would have, yet it still sacrificed the perfect transformation. I really don't like that. I mean, if it's one kind of ugle or the other, you might as well please the perfect transformation fans. I don't know what I think about Yamato going with the 1/100 scale. On one hand, I like the idea of inexpensive Valks, on the other I am willing to pay for good detail and quality. I hope Yamato does make a larger scale VF-0 toy at some point in the future, much like the 1/48ths are to the 1/60 VF-1 toys. I'd prefere 1/48th myself, just to be in scale with my other 1/48ths, but hey. I know other people aren't so keen on that idea, still I would like some sort of larger, perfect transformation version of the VF-0 at some point. I am looking forward to that 1/60 Q-rau, will go great with my 1/60 Max VF-1A. Quote
Ali Sama Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 even though I will not get it. I Like the idea of a valkyrie for every person. I mean not everyoen can afford a 1/48 etc. hell this wil be heacpoer then a1/60. it is a good time for the not well to do macross fan. Quote
bsu legato Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Hmm....I'm not entirely sold on the VF-0 yet. It's not bad, per se, but I'm not exactly jumping up and down in anticipation either. I'll just have to get comfortable up here on the fence until this thing comes out. That Hasegawa SV-51 on the other hand...? Astounding! I'm going to have to buy three of them! Quote
Majestic Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 I'm looking forward to some custom VF-0 and SV-51 paint schemes on those models. A low-vis SV-51 would be pretty sweet. Quote
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