Black Valkyrie Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber.
Anubis Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door. Edited February 18, 2004 by Anubis
Angel's Fury Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 .....I wouldn't be surprised if the actual cover doesn't have the -19 on it. Hope you're right on that.
bsu legato Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 So much for the claims that HG "had no interest in merging the remainder of Macross into the RT universe."
Angel's Fury Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 So much for the claims that HG "had no interest in merging the remainder of Macross into the RT universe." You can throw that out of the window!
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Author Posted February 18, 2004 It would be funny if Toynami comes out with an YF-19 MPC before Yamato can come out with their rerelease.
Angel's Fury Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 It would be funny if Toynami comes out with an YF-19 MPC before Yamato can come out with their rerelease. Chunky & Blocky I presume?
Black Valkyrie Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door.
Sumdumgai Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Yup, it's pretty clearly not fan art. Someone should try to make sure BW knows about this along with the DYRL superposables. as i siad. if it is not used in the actual comic it;s sjtu acameo. a tribute. hell darth maul showes up in hunterx hunter. the enterpise shuttle shwos up in dragon ball. their quiet normal and fair use. Technically a cameo is illegal period, but everybody tends to overlook it as it's a form of hommage. It's even more common and widely accepted in Japan, because of the way they see such things (doujinshi for an example). But if I'm not wrong, a cameo is pretty much "officially" illegal anywhere. Quote from my fiancee (who is the Director of Collection for the manga collection at Glénat): "For an example, in one of the covers of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama did an hommage to the brasilian pilot, Ayrton Senna, by drawing Songoku wearing his Formula one uniform, etc, in his racing car. But the sponsor of his racing team was Marlboro, and thus, you could see the brand name and logo on the car. In Japan, nobody complained, in other countries like Brasil, it was of course very well accepted as an hommage. But in France, Marlboro sued the publishing company, Glénat... After that, they had to remove all brand names etc from their mangas... ^^;; " On a side note I now own a French collection of Macross 7 Trash!
Abombz!! Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 It would be funny if Toynami comes out with an YF-19 MPC before Yamato can come out with their rerelease. If thye make a YF21 that can stand on its own.... they have my money.
Angel's Fury Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door. What's that funky smell?
bandit29 Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 What a bunch of hacks. They've gone too far this time.
bsu legato Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 What a bunch of hacks. They've gone too far this time. No kidding. I hope this finally convinces the anime community what we've been preaching all along. HG is morally and creatively bankrupt, and cannot allow Macross to flourish on its own merits without somehow absorbing its assets into their own plagaristic universe.
Agent ONE Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door. AAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHA!!! I'd gladly hurt some people, but I think this situation is just a case of sloppy judgement. If Yune did it, it was probably just an initial sketch like something as a concept... I mean it DOES look like crap, and Yune's art (though tends to be big boobed and american targeted) usually shows great artistic talent. If the 19 shows up in the comic, finished, then it will be time to unleash fan hell and we can not only set ME lose in LA hunting HG blood, we can also have a pizza delivered to Tommy's house every 15 minuites between the hours of 8PM and 5AM.
Hoptimus Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 What do you expect from HG? They are lame plain and simple. They are making money off of someone elses creation and will milk this for as long as they can.
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Author Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) AAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHA!!!I'd gladly hurt some people, but I think this situation is just a case of sloppy judgement. If Yune did it, it was probably just an initial sketch like something as a concept... I mean it DOES look like crap, and Yune's art (though tends to be big boobed and american targeted) usually shows great artistic talent. If the 19 shows up in the comic, finished, then it will be time to unleash fan hell and we can not only set ME lose in LA hunting HG blood, we can also have a pizza delivered to Tommy's house every 15 minuites between the hours of 8PM and 5AM. AgentOne just made the most sensible post on this thread. Well that's TWO things I didn't expect today. Edited February 18, 2004 by >EXO<
the white drew carey Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 ...and Yune's art (though tends to be big boobed and american targeted) usually shows great artistic talent. I know people are allowed their opinions, but... Every time I see a new cover by Yune it furthers my opinion that the guy isn't really that good. He has constant issues with proportion, details and mechanics*. I say: Let 'em die. *I mean, c'mon!!! mechanics is the most vital feature of any art featuring mecha. I admit that I've done some crappy mechanics in my time (for example, I hate the VF-4 I did here. it's tragic), but his stuff reeks. Like poo.
tom64ss Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door. AAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHA!!! I'd gladly hurt some people, but I think this situation is just a case of sloppy judgement. If Yune did it, it was probably just an initial sketch like something as a concept... I mean it DOES look like crap, and Yune's art (though tends to be big boobed and american targeted) usually shows great artistic talent. If the 19 shows up in the comic, finished, then it will be time to unleash fan hell and we can not only set ME lose in LA hunting HG blood, we can also have a pizza delivered to Tommy's house every 15 minuites between the hours of 8PM and 5AM. ...and a basket of fresh made eclairs. Anyone see Van Wilder? No kidding. I hope this finally convinces the anime community what we've been preaching all along. HG is morally and creatively bankrupt, and cannot allow Macross to flourish on its own merits without somehow absorbing its assets into their own plagaristic universe. I couldn't have said it any better myself..... No really, that's what I was thinking, but it would've taken me half a page to get the same idea across.
bob joe mac Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 WTF!!! I can only find one picture to represent my emotions.
bsu legato Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 WTF!!! I can only find one picture to represent my emotions. How about this one?
Anubis Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Hmph..... I have a bad feeling about this and how foolish of h.g. to do this Now where did I put my lightsaber. Not even the lightsaber, they get to be bludgeoned by a wooden sword. Either that or send Agent One in there with a bottle of Tums and lock the door. AAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHA!!! I'd gladly hurt some people, but I think this situation is just a case of sloppy judgement. If Yune did it, it was probably just an initial sketch like something as a concept... I mean it DOES look like crap, and Yune's art (though tends to be big boobed and american targeted) usually shows great artistic talent. If the 19 shows up in the comic, finished, then it will be time to unleash fan hell and we can not only set ME lose in LA hunting HG blood, we can also have a pizza delivered to Tommy's house every 15 minuites between the hours of 8PM and 5AM. Amen.
Anubis Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) Now unleash the froating head pics. Actually, if Toynami were to make a MPC YF-19 it would just be a rip off of Bandai's VF-19 Fire Valk, maybe scaled down to 1/55. There would be no MPC YF-21 because that would require creative effort on their part. Unless they rip off the Yamato, make it all plastic and kick it up to 1/55. They've shown enough balls so far, why not! Edited February 18, 2004 by Anubis
Duke Togo Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 This is stealing. Its time to start stealing back.
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Author Posted February 18, 2004 Now unleash the froating head pics.Actually, if Toynami were to make a MPC YF-19 it would just be a rip off of Bandai's VF-19 Fire Valk, maybe scaled down to 1/55. There would be no MPC YF-21 because that would require creative effort on their part. Unless they rip off the Yamato, make it all plastic and kick it up to 1/55. They've shown enough balls so far, why not! Not that I think they would do it, but don't forget the SHE models.
Eternal_D Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 This is stealing. Its time to start stealing back. They have nothing I want to steal...
Cyclone Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Just one point for the legions of blind people here. That isn't Yune's style. It quite clearly the work of RT: Invasion interior artist Takeshi Miyazawa... Don't let bias cloud your judgement into assuming that your usual suspect are to blame, when even a 5 year old could tell it was a different artist. Cyc
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Author Posted February 18, 2004 Just one point for the legions of blind people here. That isn't Yune's style. It quite clearly the work of RT: Invasion interior artist Takeshi Miyazawa...Don't let bias cloud your judgement into assuming that your usual suspect are to blame, when even a 5 year old could tell it was a different artist. Cyc Cyc, No one said it was Yune's art. If anything, at first it was thought to be fanart. The only time Yune's name came up was to question whether it was or if it wasn't. Don't let your defensivenes cloud your judgement of people here. Sure people are angry, but they've been pretty conservative with their comments from what I could tell.
the white drew carey Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Just one point for the legions of blind people here. That isn't Yune's style. It quite clearly the work of RT: Invasion interior artist Takeshi Miyazawa...Don't let bias cloud your judgement into assuming that your usual suspect are to blame, when even a 5 year old could tell it was a different artist. Cyc Hey, the article said cover art by Yune. Anyhow, you are aware that an artist can have several different styles, depending on his mood, subject or materials, right? Even a 5 year-old knows that. I mean, would you immediately assume these two drawings (mine) are by different artists simply based on style?
Cyclone Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 (edited) Yes I would, because there are always telltale signs. In your example the manner of your eyes for one. Moot point when it quite clearly resembles the work of Miyazawa Cyc Edited February 18, 2004 by Cyclone
Nightbat Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Guys, let's not jump the gun, misstakes are easily made, the biggest wars start with the slightest misunderstanding wherever the whole thing goes, it's BW's territory, any action on our part could only damage MW's reputation let BW handle it, if they don't - they're morons and sure don't deserve our support BTW, I know BW's webpage is in japanese, but you can still email them the image of the DYRL? S-posables and this images *new comic with the links should at least grab their attention *=I'm not convinced yet how, what, or why this image exists and for what purpose
EXO Posted February 18, 2004 Author Posted February 18, 2004 But the whole point of this thread would be: Why on earth would they even release a pic of a YF-19 on a Robotech comic book cover to a well known site, rough draft or no rough draft. Even if HG has claim to all Macross products (heaven forbid) the YF-19 is not even part of the RT continuity. Where's the sense in that? I mean, people across the ocean are working hard on designing these and to think others are just gonna walk in and say Hey these are ours too! is beyond repulsive, if not illegal. If they need new "veritechs" for their stories, then just design some, is that so hard? What's the point of saying we have people that worked on the original animation, but we're not getting anything original from them. I mean there's a reason why they are called "talents" isn't there?
Roy Focker Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Agent One is starting to make sense run!!!!!! I'm sure that they will claim it was an artist mistake and it will be replaced with another fighter once it's ready for printing.
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