bsu legato Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Hmmm...not too shabby. You are picking this one up, aren't you Cyc? Quote
Graham Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Not bad. Definitely better than the US AnimEgo set box art, which was very disappointing IMO. Graham Quote
Southcross Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 well atleast the "Harmony Blows Gold" logo is not horribly blinding... its there but it doesn't necessarily stand out (I actually had to look for it on the image), it just kinda blends in. Quote
Rick_Randy Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Cyclone by any chance does this contain all the removed scenes and dialogue that was removed when turned into robotech??? More correctly is this the version of macross that actually had english voice actors? Though not as great as the original voice actors. I know some time back a version was floating around of Macross in English and got to see the english version when I was work rostered to the Fillippine Islands up in Manila around '85 Quote
Cyclone Posted February 16, 2004 Author Posted February 16, 2004 This is Super Dimensional Fortress Macross not Robotech, it's being made using Animegio's masters, which Madman got from Harmony Gold. So it's as uncut as Animeigo's release was. Hard box with room for 3 DVD cases, Madman going for 2 discs style cases. The recipe cards have been replaced with a trio of booklets, first with episode synopis fun facts, second with lyrics, third character profiles. Cases will have Animegio style vectored art covers. The clincher, and the main reason why I'll pick this up, is the price tag of $150Aus, incredibly low compared to the US release. That and the fact it's present a March 2004 release If it wasn't PAL format, I'd recommend US people import it... Cyc Quote
ewilen Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 So there are only 6 DVDs? Dual-layer, then? And are we sure it's the Animeigo master? There's some doubt whether HG used the Animeigo master in the latest RT release. $150 AUD is about $118 USD...not a bad price, but then there's shipping. The Animeigo minibox sets are about the same price now if you shop with pricegrabber.com or similar comparison shopping site. BTW, some multiregion DVD players can convert PAL discs to NTSC. Mine does, albeit with some slight vertical compression of the image...which is easily corrected by adjusting my TV set. Quote
Neova Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Hong Kong just got in their REAL Macross SDF-1 TV Boxed sets or so I'm told. Its 10 DVDs, 2 box set, but with Japanes and Chinese subtitles only with Japanese only audio tracks. Cost is 660 HKD = 86 USD. This is good for Chinese reading Macross fans. Even the bootleggers said that was the original deal, and not a bootleg. I might have to pick this up and run it with on a PC supporting external subs. Anybody have Animeigo's english subtitles handy? Quote
Keith Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 So there are only 6 DVDs? Dual-layer, then?And are we sure it's the Animeigo master? There's some doubt whether HG used the Animeigo master in the latest RT release. Nope, he said they're using 2 disc cases (and since there are 9 disc's....?) If it weren't for the cool holographic card I use as a box set lid, I'd be a bit jealous. Quote
ewilen Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 ?? He said it's a hard box with room for three cases, and that they're 2-DVD cases. 3 x 2 = 6 or am I misunderstanding? Quote
lebhead Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 so Cyc's actually gonna buy something Macross? Quote
Cyclone Posted February 16, 2004 Author Posted February 16, 2004 3 case slots + 2 discs per case = 6 Dual layer discs, 3 episodes per layer. Madman have confirmed that they do have the Animeigo masters. IMO RT Remastered does use the same masters, just the compression ruins it, with further degration from editing. And yes I'll probably buy, mostly because Macross will be Madman's first non-bilingual subbed only release, so if it bombs other sub only shows might not make it out...such as some show called Mospeada, slated for release later this year ~_^ Cyc Quote
flippant_remark Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Cyclone. Mate!! Where can I get a hold of this?? Quote
flippant_remark Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 BTW The $150 price tag would include 10% GST which OS customers don't have to pay. So for US buyers it would be about $136 AUS before shipping. Quote
Cyclone Posted February 16, 2004 Author Posted February 16, 2004 Cyclone.Mate!! Where can I get a hold of this?? Well, it's not out yet with March 16th being the tentative release date, but I'm assuming that the usual places that get the whole range of Madman titles such as EB, HMV and JB Hi-Fi will carry it. Many of the local online stores are offering pre-orders for it, with the usual discounts for doing so. Failing that, buy direct from Madman. Cyc Quote
Crom Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Wow, somethings do eventually make it down here after all... Still $150 is a big hit for a uni student that's going to be buying textbooks and paying amenities fees at the same time... wonder what I can do to make my parents get this for me... Quote
wolfx Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 On the issue of copyrights, who would Madman have to buy licenses from to release Macross in Australia? Studio Nu or HG? Why does it have to have a HG logo on it? Cause HG subbed it? Just wondering. I'm still abit confused over the whole copyright issue Ewilen posed. Another question, does these DVDs have dubs? If so, are they the exact same "robotech dubs" or are they a whole different dubbing? Quote
the white drew carey Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I wouldn't mind actual booklets instead of those lame ass recipe cards I got with the US release. Quote
bandit29 Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Cool box. Alot better than the piss poor packaging that we got in the US. Booklets would have been nice instead of the cards. Quote
bsu legato Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I wouldn't mind actual booklets instead of those lame ass recipe cards I got with the US release. Yeah, WTF was with those anyhow? Am I supposed to file them away or something? Quote
Cyclone Posted February 16, 2004 Author Posted February 16, 2004 On the issue of copyrights, who would Madman have to buy licenses from to release Macross in Australia? Studio Nu or HG? Why does it have to have a HG logo on it? Cause HG subbed it? Just wondering. I'm still abit confused over the whole copyright issue Ewilen posed.Another question, does these DVDs have dubs? If so, are they the exact same "robotech dubs" or are they a whole different dubbing? Madman licensed SDF:Macross, and SDC:Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada direct from Harmony Gold, who provided Animeigo and ADV's masters (footage, subs, extras) to all three shows. Remember that HG claim that they have Worldwide (excluding Japan) rights to SDF: Macross, just they refused to give Animegio more than Region 1 rights. Madman's success from selling Robotech, also licensed direct from HG, probably showed that they could handle the other shows. NO DUB. NOT ROBOTECH. MACROSS. Animegio never created one, and Madman aren't interested in dubbing, making do with what they get from their US/Japanese licensors. Unfortunately this has sealed the deathnell of any chance of getting Madman to change the Mospeada names back to normal, as they seem to be disinclined to mess with the already complete in bmp form ADV subtrack Cyc Quote
Panon Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 On the issue of copyrights, who would Madman have to buy licenses from to release Macross in Australia? Studio Nu or HG? HG. Why does it have to have a HG logo on it? Cause HG subbed it? Just wondering. I'm still abit confused over the whole copyright issue Ewilen posed. Because it was licensed from HG and they own the distribution rights to Macross outside of Japan. Another question, does these DVDs have dubs? If so, are they the exact same "robotech dubs" or are they a whole different dubbing? These are exactly the same thing as the R1 Animeigo set, just on six disks instead of nine and in the PAL format instead of NTSC. Quote
ewilen Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 On the issue of copyrights, who would Madman have to buy licenses from to release Macross in Australia? Studio Nu or HG? Why does it have to have a HG logo on it? Cause HG subbed it? Just wondering. I'm still abit confused over the whole copyright issue Ewilen posed.Another question, does these DVDs have dubs? If so, are they the exact same "robotech dubs" or are they a whole different dubbing? Briefly, the general understanding is that Harmony Gold owns the exclusive right to distribute SDF Macross (the original TV series) outside of Japan. They purchased the right from Tatsunoko Productions, who in turn obtained it from Big West and Studio Nue as part of a contract during the original series' production in 1982. However, it appears that TP has directly licensed the series in Korea, which might mean that HG's license is a bit more restricted than we've generally assumed. Or possibly TP bought some of the rights back from HG. Anyway, the reason the Australian release has a HG logo on it is because HG licensed it to Madman for release in Australia. I assume it has the same subs as the Animeigo release--and if so, that probably means that HG obtained the right to use the Animeigo translation as part of Animeigo's contract to distribute SDF Macross in North America. I'm guessing there aren't any dubs but Cyc will probably have a definitive answer. Quote
tetsujin Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I wouldn't mind actual booklets instead of those lame ass recipe cards I got with the US release. Yeah, WTF was with those anyhow? Am I supposed to file them away or something? Cetainly the Animeigo packaging wasn't so great. But the content was kick-ass. Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Very nice box art. The design itself reminds of me of vintage anime posters and covers, which suits Macross perfectly. Quote
Air Elijah Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is dropping in Australia!?!?!?!? When and where do I camp out??? Quote
Keith Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Be nice, a MW member designed those covers afterall (though Garoquel, seriously, you should have sent higher quality image stock for them to use at the printers). As for the recipe cards, AnimEigo is the only company that regularly releases liner notes, don't knock it. Quote
wolfx Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Remember that HG claim that they have Worldwide (excluding Japan) rights to SDF: Macross, just they refused to give Animegio more than Region 1 rights. Madman's success from selling Robotech, also licensed direct from HG, probably showed that they could handle the other shows. I never knew this...those b***ards.....they have worldwide distribution rights?! Damn! Makes you wonder how much they actually paid for the licenses. Quote
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 (edited) OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This is dropping in Australia!?!?!?!? When and where do I camp out??? Â Â Â Â March 17th 2004, the same day as the rest of Madman's 20+ March releases. RRP $149.95 Aus. Cyc Edited February 17, 2004 by Cyclone Quote
Agent ONE Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 WOW, I wanted to pick up another set! This one looks nice! I DID however like the US box set look, refined and elegant. Quote
Agent ONE Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Wow, somethings do eventually make it down here after all... Still $150 is a big hit for a uni student that's going to be buying textbooks and paying amenities fees at the same time... wonder what I can do to make my parents get this for me... Your handle is blasphemous... CROM is my god, and he lives in the Earth. Quote
Mr March Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Impressive. Way better than the North American release, which was totally unattractive (no doubt on purpose, given who was liscencing the set) Quote
Air Elijah Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 The cover is DOPE! I'm gonna be all over this like a RASH! Quote
Hybridchild Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 The clincher, and the main reason why I'll pick this up, is the price tag of $150Aus, incredibly low compared to the US release. That and the fact it's present a March 2004 release If it wasn't PAL format, I'd recommend US people import it... As i live in eurpoe and have a pal tv i think ill be getting it, know any good isites by nay chance Hybridchild Quote
Air Elijah Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Yeah, $150 is an AWESOME PRICE. Cheaper than bootleg sets. Cheaper than a 1/60 Yamato in local stores. Far cheaper than a pair of Jordans. Quote
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