And I thought Jetfire was all the connection there was… Macross 7/ Transformers collaboration

[PointBlankSniper]

20 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

I honestly do not think those intakes have anything to do with the alt mode.  I'm thinking they just stuck them there as a reference to the VF-19... which is probably the only part of it that will actually resemble it.

Well... at least the canards are definitely also there on the nose.

[sh9000]

Basara Prime.

[Black Valkyrie]

 

This is the best thing, since Jetfire. 

 

[Froy]

So far VF 19 parts I see:

Very obvious intakes

Shield

That collar thing on the ankles

Vertical stabilizers

And the root of the wings with that beam (?) thingy on the hips.

[nightmareB4macross]

For the love of Macross, please make it stop.

I’m happy to see Macross have more exposure via a more prominent brand, but this just isn’t right.

🥲

[twich]

2 hours ago, sh9000 said:

Basara Prime.

I am not sure what or how I feel about this.  Never imagined an Optimus Prime playing a guitar.....Also, what is that on the forearms?  Smoke stacks from a semi? Or are those supposed to be the semi-recessed wing root cannons?

Twich

[Chronocidal]

I mean.. I can see hints that look sort of like a VF-19.  I think I see a nose section dangling off his back that'll probably fold over the head and give a very rough Fire Valk shape.. 

I'll at least be interested to see what the other mode looks like, but that giant chest block basically tells me everything I need to know.  

[Black Valkyrie]

 

I knew it the the transformation will be similar like the Legioss ;

 

 

[Graham]

I really want to see this in it's alternate mode.

[Black Valkyrie]

 

[jvmacross]

10 hours ago, nightmareB4macross said:

For the love of Macross, please make it stop.

I’m happy to see Macross have more exposure via a more prominent brand, but this just isn’t right.

🥲

Just think of it as some ultra-weird, ultra-rare and gloriously fugly VF-19 Kai bootleg from the mid-90's....then you will be all over it! 

[nightmareB4macross]

55 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Just think of it as some ultra-weird, ultra-rare and gloriously fugly VF-19 Kai bootleg from the mid-90's....then you will be all over it! 

Eww. Even the 90’s had some self respect.

🤣

[jvmacross]

14 minutes ago, nightmareB4macross said:

Eww. Even the 90’s had some self respect.

🤣

LOL....yeah...this is forced nostalgia....I assume this mash-up is intended for Japanese consumers....although I can see a WWM release but I think the impact to non-Japanese collectors would be minimal....

[Dangard Ace]

Started a rewatch of Mac7 because of this toy.   I still enjoy Milia flying circles around Basara in her "old" VF-1.

 

I'll most likely get this to go with my Prime collection.  Rocker Convoy is what I'll call him.

[Chronocidal]

So I just realized.. he's got Optimus Prime's exhaust stacks sticking out of his arms.. but they're positioned like the arm guns on the VF-31.  Would be funny if they actually rotated out that way.  

I still don't know what they intend to do with that giant chest block, but the more I look at it, the more I'm thinking they might at least be able to pull off a mostly decent-looking VF-19 imitation for the robot to hang underneath.  The parts are looking like they're all there, they just need to get them into the right places.

Edited Saturday at 04:36 AM by Chronocidal

[nightmareB4macross]

Why is there a VF-19 nosecone on the back?

This thing will be a brick and half once it’s in alt mode.

Make it stop.

[David Hingtgen]

Am I the only one who'd like to see an Arcee Mylene MAXL?

[Black Valkyrie]

 

They should make a short anime about it.  Since the late 80s I always wanted a VF1 in Convoy/ Prime color style. 

 

[Black Valkyrie]

47 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said:

Am I the only one who'd like to see an Arcee Mylene MAXL?

 

You never know. 

 

[Scyla]

I think this looks great. Can’t wait to see it in color and the alt-mode

The reason why I think it looks great is because I expect a Legacy Needlenose reshell but this looks like it actually transforms into a jet and is not a box underneath a jet.

The head also has some hinges on it so I wonder if they are there to flatten the head in jet-mode or maybe it is a Headmaster that transforms into Basara. The cockpit seems a bit small to house one but will see.

I also love the guitar. I might buy to if the guitar is big enough for the Yamato Fire Valkyrie to hold.

I find the inclusion of the truck parts odd. I mean it doesn’t seem to transform into a truck, so why have the smokestacks on the arms.

I‘m ok with the chest design since it is not meant to be a VF-19 Battroid-Mode but a Transformer (i.e. a living organism).

[Darkspire17]

No one's brought up the fact it takes cues from Fire Convoy from Car Robots

[David Hingtgen]

17 minutes ago, Darkspire17 said:

No one's brought up the fact it takes cues from Fire Convoy from Car Robots

OMG, now that you mention it and I look again---that explains everything and it works so much better.  It's not a G1 Prime+VF-19 hybrid, it's 2001 RiD Prime (Fire Convoy) as a VF-19...   I just might buy it now...

(I LOVE the RiD toys---but am quite disappointed in the new Omega Prime---it's like, why bother making a new toy from scratch, just to make it 99% identical to the old one?  It solves none of the major issues, it basically doubles down on them).   And this should be far cheaper than "new Omega Prime".  

[Darkspire17]

2 hours ago, David Hingtgen said:

OMG, now that you mention it and I look again---that explains everything and it works so much better.  It's not a G1 Prime+VF-19 hybrid, it's 2001 RiD Prime (Fire Convoy) as a VF-19...   I just might buy it now...

(I LOVE the RiD toys---but am quite disappointed in the new Omega Prime---it's like, why bother making a new toy from scratch, just to make it 99% identical to the old one?  It solves none of the major issues, it basically doubles down on them).   And this should be far cheaper than "new Omega Prime".  

The chest like "hinge" down the center of it, the head and face shape, it's 100% a car robots homage. 

I'm actually tempted to get an original FC & God Magnus, RID/CRi s really nice aesthetically, the show is kinda ass but the toys are somrthing else. 

[sh9000]

Fighter intakes are usually the hip area of a Valkyrie so I can't unsee Optimus' head inbetween a Battroid's legs.

[M'Kyuun]

Obviously, it's going to try to look like a VF-19 Fire Valkyrie, so we can expect the majority of it to be red with yellow accents. As someone above mentioned, the entire forward fuselage is hanging off the back and will just rotate 180 degrees to cover the head. The shoulders are shaped like the VF-19's pauldrons and will likely fill that same role on this in fighter mode with the forearms recessing, much like the VF-14, into the backs of the legs. The wings wrap around the lower legs, which will likely compress over the thighs to foreshorten them and present as the rounded aft fuselage of the VF-19, while the wings unfurl into their proper positions. The compression of the legs , IMHO, will be the most complex part of the transformation, and the resulting fighter will be a mix of blockiness due to the OP chest and smoothness due to the forward fuselage and lower legs sharing the VF-19's design characteristics. It's a bit of a Frankenstein's monster due to sharing opposing characteristics being taken from two very different designs that, IMHO, don't marry well, especially as they relate to an aircraft, and even more especially, an aircraft design as sleek and aerodynamic as the VF-19. Personally, I would have been more excited if they'd taken a similar direction as they did with Maverick, which takes notable cues from the VF-1 without copying it directly (we have Jetfire for that), albeit taking cues from the VF-19 while hewing close to that design and transformation schema without copying it entirely. 

I think this thing is going to be a travesty writ large, but I'm profoundly biased towards Macross for its realistic and sleek valkyrie designs. Takara, and Hasbro by extension, have abysmal track records for creating jetformers that are anywhere near approaching aerodynamic or realistic. More often than not, they are partial aircraft sitting on the backs of blocky folded robots that often don't even integrate the arms into the jet mode.  Fighters are big machines (I know, as I worked around them during my AF career), far bigger than cars, and yet Takara always manages to tuck the arms somewhere even in the smallest of car modes, or motorcycles for cryin' out loud! There's far more real estate in a jet fighter, and yet they often waste large chunks of a fighter that could be used to integrate arms. It boggles the mind the lack of creativity or the reluctance to try to find better solutions. All I can say is that in twenty years of working around military aircraft, I never saw a single one with arms hanging off the sides or big blocky underbellies. Macross is proof that a realistic aircraft mode is possible for a transforming robot; I just wish the folks at Takara and Hasbro would take a few notes.

[Black Valkyrie]