Macross DYRL in 4K UHD with English Subtitles

[Powered Convoy]

45 minutes ago, Duke Togo said:

Yeah, that's not how things work. You're actually borking your colors by letting Roku display everything in Dolby Vision mode. Dolby Vision should only be used if the content you're watching is encoded with it. You can't force/convert it. It'll only screw up your colors.

Yup, until I turned this off (granted it was only about 20 minutes) everything looked too dark and vivid. It worked fine for native 4K programming but not HD.  Needs to be disabled immediately b

[treatment]

PSA:

DYRL now available to order directly on amzn-us:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DDSPHF8D

 

[treatment]

poster-altar from...

https://x.com/Ezwea1/status/1885997802611958032

web-translated:

[rsvictor1976]

1 hour ago, treatment said:

PSA:

DYRL now available to order directly on amzn-us:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DDSPHF8D

 

I can't tell, but does this come with a poster?

I haven't dealt with physical media in a while. Is this 4k release region free or do I need to buy a multi-region UHD player?

Edited Monday at 06:36 AM by rsvictor1976

[Shawn]

3 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

I'm actually ok with fixing animation/coloring errors. I'm also ok with cleaning up FX shots in live-action films. But I'm not ok with removing natural film grain inherent to the negative, and I generally have issues with entirely new color gradings, especially if they dramatically alter the look of the film.

LOL See, now there needs to be Ultra-Hard Core UHD Release #2 with Heat Shield color correction and grain. Even just a flat 5k scan isn't generic enough 

[treatment]

4 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

Yeah, that's not how things work. You're actually borking your colors by letting Roku display everything in Dolby Vision mode. Dolby Vision should only be used if the content you're watching is encoded with it. You can't force/convert it. It'll only screw up your colors.

 

3 hours ago, Powered Convoy said:

Yup, until I turned this off (granted it was only about 20 minutes) everything looked too dark and vivid. It worked fine for native 4K programming but not HD.  Needs to be disabled immediately b

 

I decided to fully watch the UHD-rip I made with the muted colors of the Roku player doing Dolby Vision auto-conversion on my LG-C2...

and it actually ain't that bad, surprisingly!  It's just not as saturated as the native HDR.

At least,  to my eyes and stuff. It's fine. I'm not missing the color saturation of the native HDR.

I still like the native HDR setting as well, but enjoying watching this rip in multiple ways is a great plus.

I do think I now prefer the muted colors just coz it doesn't stress my eyes as much,

This release just keeps on giving!  

 

1 hour ago, rsvictor1976 said:

I can't tell, but does this come with a poster?

I haven't dealt with physical media in a while. Is this 4k release region free or do I need to buy a multi-region UHD player?

 

I didn't notice any region-lettering on my Japan-disc, so maybe the usual region-free UHD/BD from Japan.

Not sure if the one being offered in Amazon-US is directly the same as the japanese-version, but fwiw, US and Japan do share the same BD-region for playback.

Also, I think poster-offers were japanese-market exclusives.  Just either have to wait or ask them directly for further details about it.

 

 

Edited Monday at 07:42 AM by treatment

[davidwhangchoi]

On 1/29/2025 at 10:26 AM, rick.vale said:

Can't take credit for its production, but here are 17 screenshots comparing the 2007 DVD, 2012 BD, 2016 BD, and the new 4K. 
Macross DYRL 4K comp. | Slowpoke Pics 

I already posted these way and the beginning of the thread when the 4k was annouced, these are not from the 4k film but from publicity pictures.  quote from owner:

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I've no idea why people are sharing the old comparison I did with publicity screenshots. I've set the comparison to automatically delete itself after the 30th.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

NLScavenger from blu ray.com

here's his comparison with the actual 4k film and his review:

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Comparison with various releases: https://slow.pics/c/YdGpuReR

The overly processed video of the UHD is bad, but I do think it's less bad than the 2012 and 2016 Blu-rays which have a lot of noise caused by color/contrast boosting (not to be confused with grain). Attempts to erase the noise caused problems like frozen grain textures and grain/noise that is only contained within certain areas of a frame. The 2016 Blu-ray exacerbates the problems with additional sharpening and noise reduction. The UHD is at least more consistent in its presentation.

It's a shame that the 4K remaster turned out this way. There are benefits to the new scan and color grade, but all the processing causes unnecessary damage to the picture. There's even a clean up error that only appears on the 4K remaster (I checked against the 2016/2012 BDs, 2007 DVD and 1984/1992/1993 LDs!)

The 2007 DVD is still the best in my opinion. It's far from perfect, but the people who worked on the 2007 remaster didn't go out of their way to offend me.

One more thing: the UHD 2.0 Dolby Surround track is based on the 2007 DVD, which is a tweak of Bandai's compressed mastering from the 1992 Perfect Edition LaserDisc. I noticed distortions during 0-G Love on the Bandai masterings. The only mastering without this problem is from Shogakukan Video's 1993 Perfect Edition LaserDisc. The English and Japanese subtitles are timed to the Dolby Surround track and Mono; this causes problems with the 5.1 track due to missing lines and timing changes (e.g. When Britai says "This song, it feels peculiar...").

 

[Steady]

I think they should've gotten the team that worked on the 4K version of Transformers The Movie.  I have that 4K disc and in my opinion, they did a really good job.

 

 

  

[Duke Togo]

8 hours ago, treatment said:

I didn't realized it does that since I always have Dolby Vision On for Amzn-Prime content.

I thought Prime only did HDR10+ and not Dolby Vision? I'd have to look into that.

[treatment]

4 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

I thought Prime only did HDR10+ and not Dolby Vision? I'd have to look into that.

DV used to be free for Prime-members.

They've since put it in their ad-free tier for an additional $2.99/mo fee or something.

I didn't upgrade to that tier and just forgot to reset my Roku setting for it.

 

[locidm]

My first release limited edition from yokakunow just arrived. No poster. It does come with the A4 size acrylic board with Mikimoto's illustration on it, the '84 summer badge, and the "signed" screenplay. 

[Jagasian]

13 hours ago, Steady said:

I think they should've gotten the team that worked on the 4K version of Transformers The Movie.  I have that 4K disc and in my opinion, they did a really good job.

 

 

  

I recently purchased the 4K Blu Ray of the 1984 Transformers movie.  It is very good for people that want to preserve the original film.  It is very intensely grainy in some scenes where the film has clearly degraded over the past decades.

However, I will say that this 4K DYRL is not botched like, say, the Akira 4K release, which was scrubbed too aggressively.  This DYRL still has visible grain.  It has been lightly scrubbed, but not entirely removed.

Edited Monday at 11:36 PM by Jagasian

[Steady]

47 minutes ago, Jagasian said:

I recently purchased the 4K Blu Ray of the 1984 Transformers movie.  It is very good for people that want to preserve the original film.  It is very intensely grainy in some scenes where the film has clearly degraded over the past decades.

However, I will say that this 4K DYRL is not botched like, say, the Akira 4K release, which was scrubbed too aggressively.  This DYRL still has visible grain.  It has been lightly scrubbed, but not entirely removed.

I totally agree with you about the 4K version of Akira.  They went way overboard with the DNR.  I'm not sure if they used AI, but maybe they did.  They even removed the incredible 24bit/192khz Japanese Dolby audio track.  I'm glad I kept my Akira blu-ray.

[The Shade]

My copy of DYRL 4K has arrived. I only ordered the regular edition, so no poster for me. Still, a very nice presentation. I second a request made previously: if someone can translate the booklet, it would be greatly appreciated.

[davidwhangchoi]

6 hours ago, locidm said:

My first release limited edition from yokakunow just arrived. No poster. It does come with the A4 size acrylic board with Mikimoto's illustration on it, the '84 summer badge, and the "signed" screenplay. 

i'm jealous. still waiting for mine to ship. tempted to just get the normal edition to hold me over. 

[Shawn]

Ditto, CD-Japan messaged yesterday saying thank you for the confirmation of the extra shipping costs and payment and it will move forward in the shipping process
They are super nice but please ship it already!

 

[davidwhangchoi]

47 minutes ago, Shawn said:

Ditto, CD-Japan messaged yesterday saying thank you for the confirmation of the extra shipping costs and payment and it will move forward in the shipping process
They are super nice but please ship it already!

I went through CD japan via proxy later as my original order fell through. thankfully it wasn't too much more than my original order.

if it hit's 7700yen on amazon again for the regular deluxe this week, i might bite since the yen to usd is very favorable.  

[Shawn]

CD-Japan must be reading the forums, because I just got a shipping notice, says arrives Wed, yay!

Looking forward to seeing this with my own eyes.

[recon]

Hi guys

Anyone got a pic of the posters that come eith the amazon.jp and cdjapan release? Are these B2 sized posters?

[seti88]

Just got mine....from rakuten...

[treatment]

:sigh:

I'm quite very disappointed when using VLC to play my 4k-rip compared to smplayer and mpv-mp...

 

[Graham]

2 hours ago, recon said:

Hi guys

Anyone got a pic of the posters that come eith the amazon.jp and cdjapan release? Are these B2 sized posters?

I posted a pic of the poster I got from CD Japan a couple of pages back,

[Graham]

On 2/1/2025 at 2:04 PM, Graham said:

Yay, mine just arrived from CDJapan. 😊

Here 👆

[davidwhangchoi]

1 hour ago, seti88 said:

Just got mine....from rakuten...

that's a nice poster

[recon]

1 hour ago, Graham said:

Here 👆

Tks graham. Was confused when i saw others order coming in frm cdjapan showing a different poster

Edited yesterday at 09:08 AM by recon

[Graham]

To be honest I would have preferred the other posters rather than the one I got. 😅

[seti88]

6 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said:

that's a nice poster

Its metallic(reflective?) on the upper sdf-1 body, arms/cannons, and the SDF-1 does pop/highlight somewhat from the rest of the background.

Cant really judge the quality/effectiveness of that metallic sheen until and furthermore in a frame.

From the back of the poster it certainly looks chrome-y.

This rakuten exclusive costs 9900 yen though, higher than the other releases..

Edited 19 hours ago by seti88

[rsvictor1976]

2 hours ago, seti88 said:

Its metallic(reflective?) on the upper sdf-1 body, arms/cannons, and the SDF-1 does pop/highlight somewhat from the rest of the background.

Cant really judge the quality/effectiveness of that metallic sheen until and furthermore in frame.

From the back of the poster it certainly looks chrome-y.

This rakuten exclusive costs 9900 yen though, higher than the other releases..

So is that pretty rigid like cardstock paper or is more like one of those thin metal posters? I really wanted one of those posters. 

[seti88]

14 minutes ago, rsvictor1976 said:

So is that pretty rigid like cardstock paper or is more like one of those thin metal posters? I really wanted one of those posters. 

It’s not rigid, feels soft so definitely not cardstock  and not even like any thin metal posters. 

Thin chrome paper, if that makes any sense?🤣

[treatment]

not sure if forum will auto-resize or auto-lower the quality, but here are a couple of initial 4k-native png-screenshots: 

Thought the original 4k-native snapshots filesizes were  just a bit too big and possibly causes slowdown or something, so I downscaled them to 50%...

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by treatment

[treatment]

more playback option for your ripped DYRL-4k...

As most of you know already, MS had unfortunately and deliberately hobbled the native Win10/Win11-WMP to not be able to play any disc-media anymore (cd/dvd/bd/UHD). 

However, assuming your system is HDR-compliant, you can still use WMP to play ripped files. Provided you have the necessary codecs, at least.

So I tried Win11's native WMP with the HEVC codec, and it seem to be quite a nicely bit brighter output. I mean, Win11 itself is quite natively HDR-aggressive, I think. 

However, it's a bit awkward pain in the ass to do a clean screenshot without all the controls getting included. Not even sure if it's possible to do a clean snapshot.

Also, it seems to even use my monitor's native 1440-seting instead of the 4k-setting from the video-source:

[Jagasian]

Is it me or are more stars visible in the backgrounds of the 4K release?  How is that possible?  Did the original film have that many stars?  Often in the 4K version the stars are multiple colors, not just white.

[Steady]

Looking at the screen capture above, I just now noticed after all these years that Hikaru's left booster rocket is the wrong color (white) when he unloads his payload.  LoL