Star Wars: Skeleton Crew - Disney +

[Big s]

9 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Well...that's more than I can remember about Skelleton Crew...lol

Personally I’d rather have a forgettable show than a horribly insulting show that just ruins classic characters and if this show just ends up totally forgettable, at least it didn’t make me hate someone like Obi Wan Kenobi or Boba Fett. And this show really has only had one episode so far that I disliked. The others were fun and did nothing totally wrong and I don’t feel like I’m hate watching it like with the Acolyte, while hoping the show could redeem itself and then never does.

forgettable is far better than aggravating 

[jvmacross]

Just now, Big s said:

Personally I’d rather have a forgettable show than a horribly insulting show that just ruins classic characters and if this show just ends up totally forgettable, at least it didn’t make me hate someone like Obi Wan Kenobi or Boba Fett. And this show really has only had one episode so far that I disliked. The others were fun and did nothing totally wrong and I don’t feel like I’m hate watching it like with the Acolyte, while hoping the show could redeem itself and then never does.

forgettable is far better than aggravating 

I guess I have much higher standards....I want quality entertainment start to finish...like I have said before, I'm running out of reasons to keep D+, especially now that they are releasing their shows on disk...the only thing that has been good so far is Andor...a story that pretty much follows the same tactic as almost every other D+ show of giving us the backstory for something or someone that we really didn't need....but for Andor it's working...Skelleton Key seems "new" but I am completely underwhelmed by it....Disney's Star Wars is creatively bankrupt...

[Big s]

2 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

I guess I have much higher standards....I want quality entertainment start to finish...like I have said before, I'm running out of reasons to keep D+, especially now that they are releasing their shows on disk...the only thing that has been good so far is Andor...a story that pretty much follows the same tactic as almost every other D+ show of giving us the backstory for something or someone that we really didn't need....but for Andor it's working...Skelleton Key seems "new" but I am completely underwhelmed by it....Disney's Star Wars is creatively bankrupt...

I feel what you’re saying here. They really have been a huge letdown and who knows, they could easily manage to turn Andor into another turd in the next season. And I really don’t know if this bad fourth episode of Star Wars Treasure Planet is a bad sign for the quality of upcoming episodes.

[jvmacross]

Just now, Big s said:

I feel what you’re saying here. They really have been a huge letdown and who knows, they could easily manage to turn Andor into another turd in the next season.

Yes....this could very well happen....and then D+ will have no series that started good and ended good....

 

 

[Seto Kaiba]

8 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Half way through and this series has already proven to be nothing special....no wonder they opted for a tv series rather than a movie.....on D+ Disney has a captive pre-paying audience....on the big screen this would have been another monumental flop...lol

Nah, it'd probably actually have been better as a movie.  It's a heavily serialized story, so it already basically has the flow of a movie.  I think we'd probably have gotten a bit tighter narrative with fewer digressions if they were building towards a 90-120 minute movie instead of an eight episode TV series.

The biggest problem with the most recent episode is that they had a good concept for At Achrann, but they failed to integrate it into the overarching narrative smoothly.  So it's an interesting built of worldbuilding that comes off feeling like an optional sidequest because there was really nothing stopping the kids from skipping it entirely.

Even with the not-great fourth episode, I'd still rank this head and shoulders above many other Disney+ Star Wars originals like Ahsoka, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett, The Acolyte, and so on.  Skeleton Crew is out there putting in the work to be its own original story in the Star Wars universe, and that's worth something.  IMO, it's worth a lot more than another lazy Skywalker Saga spinoff like Obi-Wan Kenobi or The Book of Boba Fett or a lazy spinoff of a spinoff like Ahsoka or Bad Batch. 

[jvmacross]

3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Even with the not-great fourth episode, I'd still rank this head and shoulders above many other Disney+ Star Wars originals like Ahsoka, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett, The Acolyte, and so on.  

LOL...that's some brutal bar you've set for yourself!....there has been nothing good film-wise from Disney Star Wars since Rogue One....a Skeleton movie would have been just another Star Wars flop...your tolerance for mediocrity is apparently way higher than mine or perhaps you simply forgot that fact....I think Obi Wan was also initially marked for a movie, but like Skelton Pirates, at the end of the day, it just wasn't good enough and sadly both weren't good enough for TV either....then again, D+ is becoming the place were Star Wars dies....

[Seto Kaiba]

1 minute ago, jvmacross said:

LOL...that's some brutal bar you've set for yourself!....there has been nothing good film-wise from Disney Star Wars since Rogue One....a Skeleton movie would have been just another Star Wars flop...your tolerance for mediocrity is apparently way higher than mine or perhaps you simply forgot that fact....I think Obi Wan was also initially marked for a movie, but like Skelton Pirates, at the end of the day, it just wasn't good enough and sadly both weren't good enough for TV either....

Eh... maybe!  I'm trying to keep my expectations reasonable and realistic.  This is a franchise known and loved for its groundbreaking visual effects work, not its writing. 😅

Of course, what I want to see from Star Wars is also rather different from what the real Star Wars fans want to see from Star Wars.  I look at Star Wars and I see this huge sci-fi/sci-fantasy setting that's almost completely unexplored because the almost nobody involved with it can seem to conceive of a story that doesn't involve the Jedi and isn't within two degrees of separation from the original trilogy.  

Skeleton Crew is, at the very least, scratching that itch to see more of the galaxy and the people who live in it without the reductive, morally simplistic, one-dimensional writing that inevitably accompanies the members of the Glowstick Society.  This franchise absolutely CAN produce compelling original narratives with nuanced characters and more moral complexity than "Sainthood vs. Baby-Eating" as we saw in Andor and The Mandalorian.  It just almost always chooses NOT to because too many of its creatives are longtime fans and lightsaber fetishists unwilling or unable to step outside their Jedi-Sith fan fiction comfort zone.  

The franchise is just going to keep stagnating as long as the people running it refuse to stop mindlessly recapitulating the same tired stories and focus more on telling new and exciting stories than on trying to break the continuity nod and easter egg density records.

[jvmacross]

23 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Eh... maybe!  I'm trying to keep my expectations reasonable and realistic.  This is a franchise known and loved for its groundbreaking visual effects work, not its writing. 😅

Of course, what I want to see from Star Wars is also rather different from what the real Star Wars fans want to see from Star Wars.  I look at Star Wars and I see this huge sci-fi/sci-fantasy setting that's almost completely unexplored because the almost nobody involved with it can seem to conceive of a story that doesn't involve the Jedi and isn't within two degrees of separation from the original trilogy.  

Skeleton Crew is, at the very least, scratching that itch to see more of the galaxy and the people who live in it without the reductive, morally simplistic, one-dimensional writing that inevitably accompanies the members of the Glowstick Society.  This franchise absolutely CAN produce compelling original narratives with nuanced characters and more moral complexity than "Sainthood vs. Baby-Eating" as we saw in Andor and The Mandalorian.  It just almost always chooses NOT to because too many of its creatives are longtime fans and lightsaber fetishists unwilling or unable to step outside their Jedi-Sith fan fiction comfort zone.  

The franchise is just going to keep stagnating as long as the people running it refuse to stop mindlessly recapitulating the same tired stories and focus more on telling new and exciting stories than on trying to break the continuity nod and easter egg density records.

Unfortunately, the itch your are craving to get scratched is quickly turned into excessive fan-service by the brilliant minds at Disney Lucasfilm, but be careful as too much will make you go blind!....unfortunately, the D+ Star Wars MO calls for plenty of it....like a wave from the hand of a Jedi, it muddles the reality of bad story-telling for the real Star Wars fans because who cares about a good story when they just made a character from the Ewok movies canon!...when all else fails...toss in some more Jawas, Hammerheads, and Greedos to as many scenes as possible...and toss in some PT stuff too because the PT is cool now!  Space Goonies is at best a bad fan-fic with lots of fan-service, more than anything we have seen yet from a D+ show....

[Big s]

4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

"Sainthood vs. Baby-Eating" as we saw in Andor and The Mandalorian.

I only remember a few babies getting eaten in the Mandalorian. Grogu gotta eat and he munch. Besides, the parents didn’t seem to notice, so no harm no foul