Bolt Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Hahah. Ya. A bit off the rails. Good thing it all was a long time ago in some other galaxy Quote
Big s Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, jvmacross said: Luke drinking straight from the teet of a space manatee....Jack Black and Lizzo..... Luke gets down to some wild nights with the chubby celebs I guess although calling them manatees is a little harsh Edited November 4 by Big s Quote
tekering Posted November 4 Posted November 4 17 hours ago, jvmacross said: ...and the cybernetically enhanced girl makes this series more in-line with the worst parts of what we have seen in the Mando universe than the better ones... 11 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Nah, she's probably meant to be an inclusive character for viewers with disabilities. I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled... It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨 Quote
Thom Posted November 4 Posted November 4 It's more of just 'something to complain about.' Seems to be the new normal. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 4 Posted November 4 1 hour ago, tekering said: I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled... It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨 Because if she really was blind her eyes would look different? Is that how blindness always works? I haven't seen the show so just making observations at the moment because I can...lol Besides....Disney Star Wars has a really bad track record so I don't see an issue if folks are inclined to show no mercy at this point and are eager to eviscerate the show as soon as they see fit.... Quote
tekering Posted November 4 Posted November 4 1 hour ago, jvmacross said: I don't see an issue if folks are inclined to show no mercy at this point and are eager to eviscerate the show as soon as they see fit.... That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom." Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less. It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further. I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 4 Posted November 4 40 minutes ago, tekering said: That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom." Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less. It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further. I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful. Oh I'll still watch it....I somehow continue to pay for a D+ subscription....there is always a sliver of hope with these shows....I just finished Agatha All Along and thought it was fairly entertaining....went in with zero expectations which is the only way to go with D+ these days... Quote
azrael Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Putting this show in the wait-&-see pile. Wasn't too interested in the concept and still not really interested but maybe being a more for-kids-oriented show may work more in its favor. Maybe not. May it have a good story... Quote
Thom Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Won't know till we see it. I prefer a wait-n-see attitude rather than the Troll Train. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 4 Posted November 4 17 hours ago, jvmacross said: Space Lesbian Witches....Space Vespa riding cyborg gangs....Luke drinking straight from the teet of a space manatee....Jack Black and Lizzo..... Disney Lucasfilm 'creatives': Hold my beer! In a way, it is oddly impressive that Disney LucasFilm's writers managed to make "Lesbian Space Witches" unappealing to Star Wars's predominantly male audience. (Even more so given that pre-Disney LucasFilm managed to sell fans on the idea twice. Once in the EU novels and once in The Clone Wars.) That said, pre-Disney Star Wars had its fair share of "Holy my beer" bad narrative decisionmaking too. Phantom Menace introducing three different alien species that read like racist political cartoons, absolutely every bit of dialog between Anakin and Padme, so very much of the Expanded Universe. It is not a new development by any means. 5 hours ago, tekering said: I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled... It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨 It's gotta be there for a reason. AFAIK, Star Wars cybernetics are mostly organ/limb replacements for people with life-altering injuries. The few exceptions are low level clerks and functionaries who get elective surgery to boost their brains with computer hardware. That's why I hypothesized she might be blind. The casting does seem to be aiming to make the group of kids as diverse and representational as you'd expect for a kids show (which is not a bad thing, to be clear). 2 hours ago, tekering said: That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom." Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less. It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further. I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful. Social media does absolutely feed the toxic fandom... but on the other hand, Star Wars has also served up enough disappointments in its rapid-fire release schedule since Disney took the helm that general audiences are greeting new titles with less enthusiasm and more skepticism/suspicion too. For every Rebels, The Mandalorian, or Andor there's a The Acolyte, The Book of Boba Fett, or The Rise of Skywalker serving up a bland and disappointing viewing experience or irritatingly bad writing. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 4 Posted November 4 26 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: In a way, it is oddly impressive that Disney LucasFilm's writers managed to make "Lesbian Space Witches" unappealing to Star Wars's predominantly male audience. (Even more so given that pre-Disney LucasFilm managed to sell fans on the idea twice. Once in the EU novels and once in The Clone Wars.) That said, pre-Disney Star Wars had its fair share of "Holy my beer" bad narrative decisionmaking too. Phantom Menace introducing three different alien species that read like racist political cartoons, absolutely every bit of dialog between Anakin and Padme, so very much of the Expanded Universe. It is not a new development by any means. So......nothing is too weird for Disney then? Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 4 Posted November 4 3 minutes ago, jvmacross said: So......nothing is too weird for Disney then? Star Wars's Galaxy Far Far Away is an absolutely gargantuan setting that's allegedly home to over 20 million sentient species. I'd assume the only practical limits on "weird" are the imagination of the writers and the size of the budget for practical and digital effects. In a way, isn't that kind of the theme here? Skeleton Crew is a story about some bored kids from a nice, safe, middle class neighborhood where nothing interesting ever happens digging up a buried spaceship and finding out how weird, wild, and dangerous the rest of the Galaxy Far Far Away really is. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 4 Posted November 4 19 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: It'd be a bit too weird for Disney to make a kid into a cybernetics fetishist like that ridiculous moped gang from The Book of Boba Fett 13 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Star Wars's Galaxy Far Far Away is an absolutely gargantuan setting that's allegedly home to over 20 million sentient species. I'd assume the only practical limits on "weird" are the imagination of the writers and the size of the budget for practical and digital effects. In a way, isn't that kind of the theme here? Skeleton Crew is a story about some bored kids from a nice, safe, middle class neighborhood where nothing interesting ever happens digging up a buried spaceship and finding out how weird, wild, and dangerous the rest of the Galaxy Far Far Away really is. Ok....so you no longer feel anything would be too weird for Disney to do? Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) 27 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Ok....so you no longer feel anything would be too weird for Disney to do? Nothing is too weird for the Star Wars setting as a whole. Disney's in this to make money, though... so I expect the writers of this kid's show will keep the weirdness to a kid-friendly and marketably controversy-free level. (Elective cybernetics might veer too closely to a politically-polarizing real world topic for Disney's comfort.) Edited November 4 by Seto Kaiba Quote
pengbuzz Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thom said: Won't know till we see it. I prefer a wait-n-see attitude rather than the Troll Train. *imagines Soul Train opening with a Troll in 1970's disco attire* Agreed: I think I'll sit back and see where this one goes. It might stink, but could also be a "sleeper" hit if handled the right way. At the least, it'll show the difference between the "safe" parts of the Star Wars universe and the ones we see in the Trilogies. Might show why most didn't really get too involved with the Rebellion (depending on the setting).... Edited November 4 by pengbuzz Quote
azrael Posted November 4 Posted November 4 'Also will likely refrain from commenting every week and will let the show go till the end. Since Andor was a slow-burner and this show may/may not be the same, I'm not gonna jump on the troll train and say "BOOOOOOO" or whatever every week before this show ends. If something comes up in a certain episode that flags my attention, I may point it out, but otherwise, I'll let this show run its course. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 hours ago, pengbuzz said: At the least, it'll show the difference between the "safe" parts of the Star Wars universe and the ones we see in the Trilogies. That alone was enough to get my attention. So much of Star Wars is focused on military affairs or the life of ne'er-do-wells on the fringes of society that there's little indication of what life is like for the billions upon billions of normal workaday folks who aren't living and working in the almost-literal ivory towers of the rich and powerful, the wretched hives of the crime lords, or the little farming villages in the middle of nowhere. Skeleton Crew'll be doing some interesting worldbuilding. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 5 Posted November 5 I won't let people's opinions get me all flustered like some on here clearly do...everyone is free to express whatever they want...you can either agree, not agree, or not care/not respond...just don't try and silence anyone with an opposing opinion or comment....it's just a TV show, no one is insulting anyone's mother...no need to summon the dog whistles of 'Toxic Fandom', 'Troll Train', etc just because what is being said does not align with your thoughts... With that said, this show has a high probability of being another in a long line of Disney Star Wars Sh!t Shows....as I said, I'll watch it anyways, I want it to be good, but I have been disappointed too many times already... Quote
pengbuzz Posted November 5 Posted November 5 1 minute ago, jvmacross said: I won't let people's opinions get me all flustered like some on here clearly do...everyone is free to express whatever they want...you can either agree, not agree, or not care/not respond...just don't try and silence anyone with an opposing opinion or comment....it's just a TV show, no one is insulting anyone's mother...no need to summon the dog whistles of 'Toxic Fandom', 'Troll Train', etc just because what is being said does not align with your thoughts... With that said, this show has a high probability of being another in a long line of Disney Star Wars Sh!t Shows....as I said, I'll watch it anyways, I want it to be good, but I have been disappointed too many times already... Can I at least go get a cup of hot cocoa? Quote
jvmacross Posted November 5 Posted November 5 1 minute ago, pengbuzz said: Can I at least go get a cup of hot cocoa? Ran out of Kool-Aid? Quote
pengbuzz Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Ran out of Kool-Aid? No, Pepsi. The truck doesn't come until Tuesday. Quote
jvmacross Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: No, Pepsi. The truck doesn't come until Tuesday. OK, then go for the Hot Cocoa Quote
jvmacross Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Them scurvy pirates will probably be as "murderous" as these.... Quote
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