Star Wars: Skeleton Crew - Disney +

[Thom]

It wasn't bad. Was it perfect? No. And yes, it felt rushed and got a little chopped at the end, but it was not a bad ending.

As for Solo-rippoffs, there are any number of movies with the conman-trope.

[jvmacross]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

I don’t know if Disney even cares that much about the numbers anymore. The Acolyte may have had better numbers and didn’t get renewed, but then again cost quite a bit more to make. Andor had pretty bad views, but still got the green light for a second season. I think Disney may be hoping that word of mouth overtime would make the show successful enough to bring in more viewers, but fumbling the last episode as badly as they did definitely hurt the show’s reputation. Now it went from the only good thing Disney has made from the Star Wars franchise in the last couple years to being known as the show that’s just “not as bad as the other Star Wars shows”

Oh yeah, they care....they would have been touting their success if the viewing "numbers" were something they could brag about....sadly they are worse than their last canceled show....

[jvmacross]

39 minutes ago, Thom said:

As for Solo-rippoffs, there are any number of movies with the conman-trope.

The point is now SW is borrowing from itself.....this show was literally a cut-and-paste story from start to finish.....it'd probably be more entertaining than the series itself to go through it and match the scenes to what movie it was ripped-off from...LOL

[Seto Kaiba]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

I don’t know if Disney even cares that much about the numbers anymore. The Acolyte may have had better numbers and didn’t get renewed, but then again cost quite a bit more to make. Andor had pretty bad views, but still got the green light for a second season.

Based on recent comments by the Skeleton Crew showrunners, Disney is looking beyond just the absolute viewership in terms of the total minutes watched when assessing the performance of these shows.  They suggested that the trend in individual viewership - whether the show is gaining or losing viewers across its release period - when determining whether the series is successful or not.  They noted that it's encouraging that Skeleton Crew steadily gained viewers across its run as Andor did.  That may get it its second season if the showrunners can sell the studio on the new storyline.

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Based on recent comments by the Skeleton Crew showrunners, Disney is looking beyond just the absolute viewership in terms of the total minutes watched when assessing the performance of these shows.  They suggested that the trend in individual viewership - whether the show is gaining or losing viewers across its release period - when determining whether the series is successful or not.  They noted that it's encouraging that Skeleton Crew steadily gained viewers across its run as Andor did.  That may get it its second season if the showrunners can sell the studio on the new storyline.

Nah.....Disney is trying to come up with creative ways to try to convince itself that their shows are what their subscribers want....these alt-facts may work on the weak-minded uber fans, but I doubt their advertisers are going to be OK with paying top streaming show dollars for stuff no one is watching.....and as far as I can tell, Disney is still a profits-based company beholden to its investors who expect higher performance for the best returns...weak ad revenue isn't compatible with high investment returns...but that's exactly the situation they will be in if they continue with pointless, safe series like Jedi Hondo's Adventures in Space....

[jenius]

I guess that depends on how many people have plans that include ads. For the people who don't have ads, they need to make sure they have compelling content so they keep their subscriptions so there would be lots of metrics used to figure that out.

I don't understand the criticism about SW borrowing from itself or anywhere else, it was always borrowed elements. Your 'didn't like it' vote has been registered though.

[Big s]

I think a lot of the copying was more of a paying homage kinda thing, but I don’t know exactly what show or movie they were trying to copy from by not having an ending.  There’s been a few, but nothing that’s really memorable since most of those were mistakes. Maybe it was Blood Debts, but at least that one lets you know in an awkwardly immediate way how it ended and what happened after in what has become the most epic ending for a movie ever for its quick wrap up. Now that I think about it, Blood Debts is the exact opposite, so that can’t be. It was extremely informative in like ten seconds of footage 

[Seto Kaiba]

Nah, I wouldn't even call it "copying".

Star Wars is right up there with Gundam as a franchise that obsessively follows a formula set down by its earliest installments, and woe betide anyone who tries to deviate from it.

It's not that they're copying, they just only know how to write one kind of Star Wars-Approved rogueish character. 🤣

[Thom]

10 hours ago, jvmacross said:

The point is now SW is borrowing from itself.....this show was literally a cut-and-paste story from start to finish.....it'd probably be more entertaining than the series itself to go through it and match the scenes to what movie it was ripped-off from...LOL

Star Wars A New Hope was basically a 'cut-and-paste story' from Akira Kurosawa, a Western and others shows, so I don't understand how this is a criticism. You can take several examples of movies from the same genre (and even beyond) and find similar plot points used to help drive the story all over the place. Everyone does it. This is not a valid criticism.

Bad acting, bad direction, a story without any nuance or risks, sure those are. A show that is boring that puts the viewer to sleep? Sure. A scene with guy doing a useless spin in the middle of a blaster fight (you know what I mean?) oh hell yeah! But plots points? No.

[jvmacross]

3 minutes ago, Thom said:

Star Wars A New Hope was basically a 'cut-and-paste story' from Akira Kurosawa, a Western and others shows, so I don't understand how this is a criticism. You can take several examples of movies from the same genre (and even beyond) and find similar plot points used to help drive the story all over the place. Everyone does it. This is not a valid criticism.

Bad acting, bad direction, a story without any nuance or risks, sure those are. A show that is boring that puts the viewer to sleep? Sure. A scene with guy doing a useless spin in the middle of a blaster fight (you know what I mean?) oh hell yeah! But plots points? No.

Guess you don't get it...although it's right there in the first sentence you quoted...so not sure how to make it any less vague for you...it's valid in the context I am referring to not in the way you are trying to spin it....

 

[jvmacross]

Skellington Crew will eventually be forgotten and/or re-evaluated for exactly what it was (already starting to see the good-will erode on-line)....another waste of time for subscribers and money for D+...right now people were so disillusioned with The Acolyte that it is clouding their judgement on the latest series.....had it come directly after a much better show like The Mandalorian S1 or Andor, the expectations would have been higher as has been demonstrated in the past....right now it is getting some good vibes due to how bad the previous show was and not due to it being anything ground-breaking or contributing anything to a sustaining future for the IP....it's merely a soft and safe reset for the IP at best....was it needed....probably, but it was like placing a bandaid on a severe stab wound...Hopefully if Andor does not dissapoint, Skellington Crew will go off into obscurity and be forgotten or another show no one wants to bring up again...

[jenius]

Why do you keep repeating yourself? Got it, you don't like it. You're not adding anything new.