azrael Posted Thursday at 01:17 AM Posted Thursday at 01:17 AM 22 minutes ago, mechaninac said: His point is that what came before it, the many failures pumped out by Disney-Lucasfilm is what doomed it Ahem... 👇 17 hours ago, azrael said: I think the number of bad Star Wars shows has definitely tempered expectations quite a bit. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Thursday at 02:18 AM Posted Thursday at 02:18 AM 42 minutes ago, mechaninac said: You, along with others, are myopically falling for a prejudgment fallacy. Considering how toxic many of the more outspoken Star Wars fan YouTubers are, it's more a case of having seen enough that we've been conditioned to expect toxic fan behavior from any unsolicited YouTube video. 😅 42 minutes ago, mechaninac said: His point is that what came before it, the many failures pumped out by Disney-Lucasfilm is what doomed it, with special emphasis on The Acolyte; so yes, Star Wars, the way it's been mishandled and abused, killed it. If so, then I'd say they're right for the wrong reason. Disney+'s previous Star Wars failures definitely hurt Skeleton Crew's prospects, but I'd argue that the cause of those failures has consistently been the franchise runner's extremely narrow view of what a Star Wars story should be and the comic book-like decline in quality and accessibility that comes with the escalating number of tie-ins and crossovers. The producers resistance to making original stories like Skeleton Crew is why the franchise struggles. The Mandalorian was a solid series at the outset, and its gradual decline perfectly parallels its increasing connectedness to plot threads and lore left over from Dave Filoni's pre-Disney The Clone Wars animated series. The Book of Boba Fett fell flat right out of the gate because it was one massive fanservice push built around an underdeveloped legacy character. Ahsoka and Obi-Wan Kenobi similarly fell apart because they were written around fanservice and expected to sell because of a beloved legacy character not because there was anything meaningful to the story. Tales of the Jedi and Tales of the Empire are pure and unnecessary fanservice. The Acolyte ended up a trashfire because the show's promoted fan producer-writer was more interested in showing her affection for the High Republic period and the Jedi than telling a coherent story. Those tie-ins and crossovers might bring the die-hards out in the short term, but they're a self-defeating premise in the long term because it's only a matter of time until some fan sacred cow gets made into hamburger. The Bad Batch is just a mediocre-at-best direct sequel to The Clone Wars that improves the more distance it puts between itself and what it spun off from but never really made itself into a distinct entity. The good shows - Andor and Skeleton Crew - work because they're compelling original stories that are in the Star Wars universe but don't depend upon connections to the "main" Skywalker narrative. Andor is connected to the main narrative indirectly, but those connections are superficial to the story and you replace Cassian with any other character and nothing would change in the story. Skeleton Crew, for its part, is just a fun, totally stand-alone adventure in the Star Wars galaxy and that makes it both entertaining and accessible. I think that even if it didn't get a huge following initially that audiences will pick it up in time because of how accessible its story is. Unlike all of the other Star Wars shows to date, Skeleton Crew is a completely self-contained story. You don't have to have seen another show to understand what's going on the way you do in most of the others. That makes it easy to pick up, and the light and generally fun adventure story keeps it easy to remain engaged with even if Star Wars is something you have only a casual interest in. Its viewership might've suffered due to previous failures, but that's mainly because Skeleton Crew is the kind of show Disney+ should've started with. Quote
Thom Posted Thursday at 02:22 AM Posted Thursday at 02:22 AM 1 hour ago, mechaninac said: You, along with others, are myopically falling for a prejudgment fallacy. He actually mostly praises the series, calling it competent and entertaining, just as he calls Andor a smartly written and overall worthy entry. His point is that what came before it, the many failures pumped out by Disney-Lucasfilm is what doomed it, with special emphasis on The Acolyte; so yes, Star Wars, the way it's been mishandled and abused, killed it. It's in the title, man. 'Skeleton Crew Died, Star Wars killed it.' If the guy has a broad view and is not pushing one toxic mind-set, then you don't name it that. He himself is pushing a 'prejudgment' right from the start. Here's a good example of something I might watch, 'Skeleton Crew, Let's Discuss the Good and the Bad.' That shows me that the reviewer isn't a one-sided troll, bent on angst for click-baiting. What he did use, makes me not want to waste a second of my life on his teeny, tiny opinion. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Thursday at 06:07 AM Posted Thursday at 06:07 AM 24 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: Agree again: the entire franchise is suffering clone degradation, and Skeleton Crew turned out to be at least something original (admittedly, I had my doubts at the start like everyone else). Star Wars is kind of a victim of its own success. It had a very successful formula and made a huge cultural impact on whole generations with the original and sequel trilogies, but as a result now that the creatives working on it are people who were fans of it as kids they have a very narrow concept of what a Star Wars story can be. Andor was a sign that Star Wars has good stories left in it if creatives are willing to look outside the franchise's narrow conventions, and Skeleton Crew is IMO a vindication of that viewpoint. 24 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: Yeah; you can tell the beginnings of studio interference/ woke interference by just that. Not at all... and I'd say the latter doesn't even exist given how meaningless that statement is. No, the difficulties Star Wars faces are because its current crop of creatives are long-time fans themselves. The series and story concepts they're coming up with are things that appeal to them as fans... and the deeper they go down the fanservice rabbit hole the worse the shows get. It's no accident that the best Disney+ Star Wars series (Andor) is also the only one where the showrunner's not a Star Wars fan. Skeleton Crew owes quite a bit to whoever managed to keep its showrunner and/or writers on task developing a fun, accessible, stand-alone adventure story that's just set in the Star Wars galaxy instead of a formulaic Star Wars story. Whoever that was is the real MVP at Disney LucasFilm. Quote
pengbuzz Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Not at all... and I'd say the latter doesn't even exist given how meaningless that statement is. Never mind; I just pulled my entire reply. I'm done posting about Star Wars; it's gotten so toxic I can't stand the franchise anymore. Departing topic (and Star Wars as a fan). Edited Thursday at 12:30 PM by pengbuzz Quote
Big s Posted Friday at 10:51 AM Posted Friday at 10:51 AM Late to the conversation here again due to power restrictions and finally figured out a work around for getting subtitles on Macross plus for my tv. Had to watch a couple episodes out of excitement. Anyway finally was able to watch the final episode of Skeleton Crew and it ended…………… Quote
Thom Posted Friday at 05:34 PM Posted Friday at 05:34 PM 6 hours ago, Big s said: Late to the conversation here again due to power restrictions and finally figured out a work around for getting subtitles on Macross plus for my tv. Had to watch a couple episodes out of excitement. Anyway finally was able to watch the final episode of Skeleton Crew and it ended…………… Quote
Big s Posted Friday at 05:42 PM Posted Friday at 05:42 PM 7 minutes ago, Thom said: That’s basically how I felt about the ending Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Friday at 05:50 PM Posted Friday at 05:50 PM 7 minutes ago, Big s said: That’s basically how I felt about the ending Kind of a "now what?" ending, eh? Quote
jvmacross Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Posted Friday at 06:31 PM 23 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Kind of a "now what?" ending, eh? More of a "why do I keep paying for D+?" ending...lol They should have shown Space Jack Sparrow being carted off in handcuffs by the New Republic....it's not like a man of his ingenuity would not have been able to escape at some point if a Season 2 required it...instead, his fate will be another avoidable mystery in the ever shrinking SW Galaxy...seriously, another morally vague Force user running around....surely Luke and Leia would want to meet this potential problem, which alone, is why he should not have been a Force user....it just complicates the logic of the post-ROTJ timeline....and again, comes back to tying back to the Skywalker Saga....an itch that Disney can't help but scratch... Quote
Big s Posted Friday at 07:51 PM Posted Friday at 07:51 PM 1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said: Kind of a "now what?" ending, eh? Seriously. I was waiting for an after credit scene. It never happened. Spoiler I know some expected something bad to happen to Jod, and I kinda figured he’d slip away with a little chunk of change, but nothing happened. He just stood there. I do think he had a soft redemption in that he didn’t try to actually kill anyone at all after Captain werewolf, but it just all felt anticlimactic. I feel like the act of killing captain Werewolf in the last episode was a bad mistake for the writing in this episode. Without having a real bad guy at the last episode really ended up harming the ending. Like they just had a boatload of bafoons left as aggressors. Spoiler The whole time it’s been too obvious that jod wouldn’t actually kill anyone other than a big bad guy and that guy already died. It left a question between him either needing to fight his way out to avoid capture or him somehow saving the day, and neither happened. There’s also no explanation about how this planet would really be run after the master computer died and the big shields destroyed to at least close out. I really hated the parents in this episode. They were a little mentally deficient before, but here they were completely brain dead It basically ended up like a big open faced sandwich without anything on top of the bread. on the good side the episode looked pretty…. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Friday at 08:58 PM Posted Friday at 08:58 PM 47 minutes ago, Big s said: Seriously. I was waiting for an after credit scene. It never happened. Yeah, I too was surprised to not see an after-credits scene on Skeleton Crew's final episode to tease a next season. Maybe, after The Acolyte, the showrunners felt it was too much like tempting fate. 47 minutes ago, Big s said: Hide contents I know some expected something bad to happen to Jod, and I kinda figured he’d slip away with a little chunk of change, but nothing happened. He just stood there. I do think he had a soft redemption in that he didn’t try to actually kill anyone at all after Captain werewolf, but it just all felt anticlimactic. I feel like the act of killing captain Werewolf in the last episode was a bad mistake for the writing in this episode. Without having a real bad guy at the last episode really ended up harming the ending. Like they just had a boatload of bafoons left as aggressors. IMO, having Brutus around for the finale would've been a mistake. His role in the story was to be a foil/rival to Jod, a usurper who Jod could dethrone right before the end of the story to properly assert his Villain Credentials from the first episode. If Brutus had still been alive, he'd have been at loggerheads with Jod the entire final episode and detracted from Jod's intended role as the show's Big Bad. As far as the body count... well... it is supposed to be a kid's show. 47 minutes ago, Big s said: Hide contents The whole time it’s been too obvious that jod wouldn’t actually kill anyone other than a big bad guy and that guy already died. It left a question between him either needing to fight his way out to avoid capture or him somehow saving the day, and neither happened. There’s also no explanation about how this planet would really be run after the master computer died and the big shields destroyed to at least close out. I really hated the parents in this episode. They were a little mentally deficient before, but here they were completely brain dead It basically ended up like a big open faced sandwich without anything on top of the bread. on the good side the episode looked pretty…. Spoiler I agree with a fair bit of what you said here about Jod's unwillingness to kill... but Brutus was never the show's Big Bad. Jod comes into the story as the Big Evil Space Pirate and, despite being ousted, the series repeatedly reminds us that he's not a good person and that he's manipulating the kids because he believes their story that they're from legendary treasure planet At Attin. As to the parents... well... I feel like getting frustrated with them was The Point. They're the parents in a kid-centric adventure story, so of course they're going to be opposed to their children doing anything dangerous. They're supposed to not listen so the kids HAVE to run off and take the initiative to save the day. To me, they read like pretty believable upper middle class suburbanites. Quote
Thom Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Hide contents .. As to the parents... well... I feel like getting frustrated with them was The Point. They're the parents in a kid-centric adventure story, so of course they're going to be opposed to their children doing anything dangerous. They're supposed to not listen so the kids HAVE to run off and take the initiative to save the day. To me, they read like pretty believable upper middle class suburbanites. Spoiler They are also pretty dependent on the droids for everything, to the point that I think administrators such as Fern's mom did their job with a rubber stamp in hand. Raised from the crib really to always depend on the the droids making the big decisions, and when that stopped... Wim's dad had his turnaround moment when he finally acted on his own and went after Jod. As to the ending, Spoiler I wasn't expecting a credit scene, I just wanted the episode to be a bit longer, even if all they did was show Jod either in custody, or hiding out until everything calmed down. Overall, I'm happy with it. Edited Saturday at 01:27 AM by Thom Quote
Big s Posted Saturday at 01:46 AM Posted Saturday at 01:46 AM 4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: IMO, having Brutus around for the finale would've been a mistake. His role in the story was to be a foil/rival to Jod, a usurper who Jod could dethrone right before the end of the story to properly assert his Villain Credentials from the first episode. If Brutus had still been alive, he'd have been at loggerheads with Jod the entire final episode and detracted from Jod's intended role as the show's Big Bad. I just don’t think Jod was a big bad at all. He came off more of a space nanny that was just using the kids to get to the gold. The werewolf guy seemed more like a bad guy. The ending unfortunately suffered from being too dull. And really could’ve used some real tension brought in by the werewolf. The characters left were just kinda whatever. Sure there was a bit of action on the side, but it just felt like the main bit of it was going nowhere and in the end actually went nowhere. I get that it’s a kids show, and because of that I wasn’t expecting any blood or anything or a high body count or even any deat at all, just kinda needed a stronger ending that actually felt like an ending. Maybe something more to root for. And I wasn’t waiting for the end credit scene to tease a second season, just something to finish this one. Instead it just ended. It was a pretty ending, but overall real letdown unfortunately. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Saturday at 04:58 AM Posted Saturday at 04:58 AM 2 hours ago, Big s said: I just don’t think Jod was a big bad at all. He came off more of a space nanny that was just using the kids to get to the gold. The werewolf guy seemed more like a bad guy. A character doesn't need to the most overtly evil or violent or whatever to be the Big Bad... they just have to be the principal antagonist who's pulling the strings behind most of the conflict in the story. Jod may not be the most overtly violent or threatening character, but he's absolutely the one manipulating events and people to fulfill his desire to pillage the legendary treasure planet the kids call home. He protects the kids because he needs them to find out how to reach At Attin, and the minute he can get there without them they're betrayed, taken prisoner, terrorized into compliance, etc. so he can rob their homeworld. Brutus may be more overtly threatening in a physical sense, but he's not the driving force behind the show's conflict. He's out of scope for fairly half the story, and he's only really reacting to Jod's escape and then Jod's attempts to manipulate his crew until he ends up dead at Jod's hands. He exists mainly to justify why Jod has to travel with the kids on the Onyx Cinder and so that Jod has someone to kill to reestablish his villainous credentials towards the end. Quote
Big s Posted Saturday at 05:40 AM Posted Saturday at 05:40 AM 42 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: A character doesn't need to the most overtly evil or violent or whatever to be the Big Bad... they just have to be the principal antagonist who's pulling the strings behind most of the conflict in the story. Jod may not be the most overtly violent or threatening character, but he's absolutely the one manipulating events and people to fulfill his desire to pillage the legendary treasure planet the kids call home. He protects the kids because he needs them to find out how to reach At Attin, and the minute he can get there without them they're betrayed, taken prisoner, terrorized into compliance, etc. so he can rob their homeworld. Brutus may be more overtly threatening in a physical sense, but he's not the driving force behind the show's conflict. He's out of scope for fairly half the story, and he's only really reacting to Jod's escape and then Jod's attempts to manipulate his crew until he ends up dead at Jod's hands. He exists mainly to justify why Jod has to travel with the kids on the Onyx Cinder and so that Jod has someone to kill to reestablish his villainous credentials towards the end. Unfortunately it made for a dull ending Quote
Dynaman Posted Saturday at 04:20 PM Posted Saturday at 04:20 PM The ending was "meh". The problem, as others have mentioned, is that there was no tension. We KNEW the kids were not going to get hurt and the planet would be free of pirates. Having Werewolf guy around for the final episode could have given it some kind of tension - would Jod (just noticed how close that is to Jude...) be killed is something I would believe could have happened. Quote
Big s Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM 4 hours ago, Dynaman said: The ending was "meh". The problem, as others have mentioned, is that there was no tension. We KNEW the kids were not going to get hurt and the planet would be free of pirates. Having Werewolf guy around for the final episode could have given it some kind of tension - would Jod (just noticed how close that is to Jude...) be killed is something I would believe could have happened. That’s basically my thing here. It could’ve even given us a really cool swashbuckling pirate fight on the edge of a ship going down in flames or something. We basically just got a heist story ending without the ending Quote
TangledThorns Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Finished the last episode and it didn't give me confidence there will be a second season. Definitely deserved more for a finale. Oh well. At least we have the second season of Andor coming soon. Hope it doesn't suck. lol. Quote
Big s Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM 3 hours ago, TangledThorns said: Finished the last episode and it didn't give me confidence there will be a second season. Definitely deserved more for a finale. Oh well. At least we have the second season of Andor coming soon. Hope it doesn't suck. lol. Disney has a really bad problem with conclusions. I have a bad feeling about this one ending well enough. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted yesterday at 05:29 AM Posted yesterday at 05:29 AM 7 hours ago, Big s said: That’s basically my thing here. It could’ve even given us a really cool swashbuckling pirate fight on the edge of a ship going down in flames or something. We basically just got a heist story ending without the ending Eh... that'd be pretty out-of-character for the space pirates in Star Wars. As odd as it sounds for what is, after all, a space fantasy series... the space pirates in Star Wars are a lot more grounded and realistic than Hollywood's standard silver screen swashbucklers. Like Hondo Ohnaka's and Gorian Shard's, the depiction Jod Ja Nawood's pirate crew owes far more to modern Somali pirates than it does to the likes of Jack Sparrow or the many fictional versions of Blackbeard. These aren't "dramatic sword fight" pirates, these are "shoot unarmed people and take their sh*t" pirates... maybe "capture you alive and hold you for ransom" pirates if you're lucky enough to be a VIP. Having Jod fight Brutus to the death at the end of the series would've been more action-friendly, but it wouldn't have meshed with the story or the tone of the series. It probably wouldn't have been much of a fight either, since if Jod hadn't killed Brutus the crew would've been loyal to Brutus and easily overpowered Jod. Quote
Big s Posted yesterday at 06:56 AM Posted yesterday at 06:56 AM 1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said: Having Jod fight Brutus to the death at the end of the series would've been more action-friendly, but it wouldn't have meshed with the story or the tone of the series. It probably wouldn't have been much of a fight either, since if Jod hadn't killed Brutus the crew would've been loyal to Brutus and easily overpowered Jod. I think it could’ve fit fine. And it would’ve given a more interesting reason for Jod to have had a lightsaber. They could’ve had the crew too busy fighting off those x-wings. It really was just a suggestion of something far more interesting than what we got. Which was a total letdown that didn’t mesh well with the story Quote
Dynaman Posted yesterday at 01:26 PM Posted yesterday at 01:26 PM 7 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Having Jod fight Brutus to the death at the end of the series would've been more action-friendly, but it wouldn't have meshed with the story or the tone of the series. It probably wouldn't have been much of a fight either, since if Jod hadn't killed Brutus the crew would've been loyal to Brutus and easily overpowered Jod. Jod has proven his ability to talk his way out of most anything and the lame way Brutus was eliminated was certainly no better then anything they could have done in a final episode. Talking the crew into letting him fight Brutus for command would have tied in nicely with the "rules" the robot was spouting in an earlier episode. Quote
jvmacross Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM 1 hour ago, Dynaman said: Jod has proven his ability to talk his way out of most anything and the lame way Brutus was eliminated was certainly no better then anything they could have done in a final episode. Talking the crew into letting him fight Brutus for command would have tied in nicely with the "rules" the robot was spouting in an earlier episode. Maybe that scene was purposefully done to mirror a certain event involving another "scoundrel" whose original action was to shoot first....but has since been changed several times to the disdain of SW fans....unfortunately, this time around, Space Jack Sparrow's only purpose for killing Capt Wolfie was merely a plot device to keep the "youngsters" watching this "kid show" guessing if he was good or bad...which by the end no one cared.... Remember, this pointless series was a patchwork of stolen concepts, ideas and scenes from several movies, but also utilizing several things from it's own IP... Based on the "numbers", there is no way it would make sense for Disney to greenlight a S2, even if they clearly ended it with the intent for more....the reason they probably haven't announced a cancelation of a Season 2 is purely due to the optics of doing so...another back to back failure is embarrassing, no need to bring any attentionto it...especially considering there was less interest in Skellington Crew than The Acolyte.... Personally, I have no need for another pointless adventure with Space Jack Sparrow....aka Jedi Hondo!.... Quote
Roy Focker Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago If anyone was unsatisfied by the ending remember this was a show about kid characters. They would have to be the ones to save the day. Because they are kids it isn't going to involve that much violence. Nor could they have Jude have a change of heart and fight his old crew with a light saber as it would have made him the more of hero than the kids. Quote
Dynaman Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, jvmacross said: especially considering there was less interest in Skellington Crew than The Acolyte.... Skellington Crew! THAT is a show I would be interested in seeing! Quote
TangledThorns Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I'm hoping we get to see more of SM-33 at least in one of the other planned series or movies. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, Dynaman said: Jod has proven his ability to talk his way out of most anything and the lame way Brutus was eliminated was certainly no better then anything they could have done in a final episode. Talking the crew into letting him fight Brutus for command would have tied in nicely with the "rules" the robot was spouting in an earlier episode. Eh... maybe. Personally, I think that the way the writers handled Jod regaining command of his pirate crew was a good fit for how they'd developed the character previously. Jod's not much of a fighter. He is, however, a talker. A conman. He's got a lot of charisma and he's good at persuasive speaking, so he bluffs his way out of trouble whenever he can. If he got into a straight fight with Brutus he'd probably lose and die, but he's able to talk his way into a stay of execution with the promise of access to At Attin and then rules lawyers his way back into command by killing Brutus in "single combat" after someone else had already incapacitated him. He's also so used to talking his way out of trouble that he's completely unprepared for someone else to start rules-lawyering too... which is how the kids and SM-33 get the drop on him when they steal the Onyx Cinder back. A big fight during the show's climax would've stolen focus from the main characters (the kids) though, and with the villain's plan coming together having Jod and Brutus duke it out would've distracted from Jod's master plan that the kids were trying to stop. An Entertainment Weekly interview with the showrunners a few days back definitely bears out the idea that Skeleton Crew's viewership mainly suffered as a result of The Acolyte being its predecessor. Like Andor, it gained rather than lost viewers as the series went on which augurs well for prospects of a second season. Edited 17 hours ago by Seto Kaiba Quote
jvmacross Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, TangledThorns said: I'm hoping we get to see more of SM-33 at least in one of the other planned series or movies. Smee is basically K2SO....but speaks in pirate....making Smee a different and refreshing droid!! Quote
jvmacross Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Jod's not much of a fighter. He is, however, a talker. A conman. He's got a lot of charisma and he's good at persuasive speaking, so he bluffs his way out of trouble whenever he can. Again....a Han Solo ripoff.... Perhaps Pirate Solo can talk his way into a second season? Quote
Dynaman Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Eh... maybe. Personally, I think that the way the writers handled Jod regaining command of his pirate crew was a good fit for how they'd developed the character previously. Jod's not much of a fighter. He is, however, a talker. A conman. Whenever the plot needed him to be a decent fighter (with force abilities no less) he was however. Quote
TangledThorns Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 14 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Smee is basically K2SO....but speaks in pirate....making Smee a different and refreshing droid!! Yeah but K2SO doesn't have a cute little critter living in one of its "aye" sockets. Aye? Quote
jvmacross Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 43 minutes ago, TangledThorns said: Yeah but K2SO doesn't have a cute little critter living in one of its "aye" sockets. Aye? Cute? NOPE....the bilgerat looks quite nightmarish.... Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dynaman said: Whenever the plot needed him to be a decent fighter (with force abilities no less) he was however. Who does he actually fight though? He sucker-punches that one guy while escaping from the stockade at Port Borgo, he buys his way out of trouble on At Achran, he outwits a mall cop or two at that day spa, bullies some children half his size, and then struggles with two out-of-shape desk jockets on At Attin. Quote
Big s Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 8 hours ago, Roy Focker said: If anyone was unsatisfied by the ending remember this was a show about kid characters. They would have to be the ones to save the day. Because they are kids it isn't going to involve that much violence. Nor could they have Jude have a change of heart and fight his old crew with a light saber as it would have made him the more of hero than the kids. There’s ways they could’ve had an end episode that was more exciting without necessarily being anymore violent than the episode right before it. Jod just pops a werewolf there. That basically kills the non violence of the show argument right there in the previous episode. He spaced a guy in the first few minutes of the first episode and those weren’t the only deaths. And again, I’m not looking for a bloodbath or anything near that, just something more for this show. They could also have had an ending episode planned to where Jod not only had a cool scene, while also having the kids somehow take a big focus. They also could’ve written the parents as far less mentally deficient, this was absolutely overkill. It just all would’ve taken a little creative writing instead of the lame final episode where they forgot to end the show. I get the feeling that the true ending if it were slightly more realistic would’ve ended up with the children of the planet all taking over easily since the parents were so absolutely useless and non functional that their society would devolve into exactly what that other At planet turned into. 9 hours ago, jvmacross said: Based on the "numbers", there is no way it would make sense for Disney to greenlight a S2, even if they clearly ended it with the intent for more....the reason they probably haven't announced a cancelation of a Season 2 is purely due to the optics of doing so...another back to back failure is embarrassing, no need to bring any attentionto it...especially considering there was less interest in Skellington Crew than The Acolyte.... I don’t know if Disney even cares that much about the numbers anymore. The Acolyte may have had better numbers and didn’t get renewed, but then again cost quite a bit more to make. Andor had pretty bad views, but still got the green light for a second season. I think Disney may be hoping that word of mouth overtime would make the show successful enough to bring in more viewers, but fumbling the last episode as badly as they did definitely hurt the show’s reputation. Now it went from the only good thing Disney has made from the Star Wars franchise in the last couple years to being known as the show that’s just “not as bad as the other Star Wars shows” Quote
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