Star Wars: Skeleton Crew - Disney +

[Bolt]

Hahah. Ya. A bit off the rails. Good thing it all was a long time ago in some other galaxy   

[Big s]

4 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Luke drinking straight from the teet of a space manatee....Jack Black and Lizzo.....

Luke gets down to some wild nights with the chubby celebs I guess 

although calling them manatees is a little harsh

Edited November 4, 2024 by Big s

[tekering]

17 hours ago, jvmacross said:

...and the cybernetically enhanced girl makes this series more in-line with the worst parts of what we have seen in the Mando universe than the better ones...

11 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Nah, she's probably meant to be an inclusive character for viewers with disabilities.

I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled...

It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨

[Thom]

It's more of just 'something to complain about.' Seems to be the new normal.

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, tekering said:

I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled...

It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨

Because if she really was blind her eyes would look different? Is that how blindness always works?

I haven't seen the show so just making observations at the moment because I can...lol

Besides....Disney Star Wars has a really bad track record so I don't see an issue if folks are inclined to show no mercy at this point and are eager to eviscerate the show as soon as they see fit....

[tekering]

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

I don't see an issue if folks are inclined to show no mercy at this point and are eager to eviscerate the show as soon as they see fit....

That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom."  Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less.  It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further.  I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful.

[jvmacross]

40 minutes ago, tekering said:

That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom."  Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less.  It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further.  I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful.

Oh I'll still watch it....I somehow continue to pay for a D+ subscription....there is always a sliver of hope with these shows....I just finished Agatha All Along and thought it was fairly entertaining....went in with zero expectations which is the only way to go with D+ these days...

[azrael]

Putting this show in the wait-&-see pile. Wasn't too interested in the concept and still not really interested but maybe being a more for-kids-oriented show may work more in its favor. Maybe not. May it have a good story...

[Thom]

Won't know till we see it. I prefer a wait-n-see attitude rather than the Troll Train.

[Seto Kaiba]

17 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Space Lesbian Witches....Space Vespa riding cyborg gangs....Luke drinking straight from the teet of a space manatee....Jack Black and Lizzo.....

Disney Lucasfilm 'creatives': Hold my beer!

In a way, it is oddly impressive that Disney LucasFilm's writers managed to make "Lesbian Space Witches" unappealing to Star Wars's predominantly male audience.

(Even more so given that pre-Disney LucasFilm managed to sell fans on the idea twice.  Once in the EU novels and once in The Clone Wars.)

That said, pre-Disney Star Wars had its fair share of "Holy my beer" bad narrative decisionmaking too.  Phantom Menace introducing three different alien species that read like racist political cartoons, absolutely every bit of dialog between Anakin and Padme, so very much of the Expanded Universe.  It is not a new development by any means.

 

5 hours ago, tekering said:

I didn't get the impression from the first trailer than she was cybernetically-enhanced or disabled...

 

It looked to me like she wears that thing over her eyes by choice. 🤨

It's gotta be there for a reason.  AFAIK, Star Wars cybernetics are mostly organ/limb replacements for people with life-altering injuries.  The few exceptions are low level clerks and functionaries who get elective surgery to boost their brains with computer hardware.

That's why I hypothesized she might be blind.  The casting does seem to be aiming to make the group of kids as diverse and representational as you'd expect for a kids show (which is not a bad thing, to be clear).

 

2 hours ago, tekering said:

That was certainly the impression I got from reactions to The Acolyte (even in this forum), and I think social media has been feeding that kind of "toxic fandom."  Frankly, I had no interest in Star Wars by that point, so I never bothered with it... and the first trailer for Skeleton Crew compels me even less.  It's obviously not intended for me, so I see no point in criticizing any further.  I hope those that do bother to watch it actually enjoy it, although that seems doubtful.

Social media does absolutely feed the toxic fandom... but on the other hand, Star Wars has also served up enough disappointments in its rapid-fire release schedule since Disney took the helm that general audiences are greeting new titles with less enthusiasm and more skepticism/suspicion too.  For every Rebels, The Mandalorian, or Andor there's a The Acolyte, The Book of Boba Fett, or The Rise of Skywalker serving up a bland and disappointing viewing experience or irritatingly bad writing.

[jvmacross]

26 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

In a way, it is oddly impressive that Disney LucasFilm's writers managed to make "Lesbian Space Witches" unappealing to Star Wars's predominantly male audience.

(Even more so given that pre-Disney LucasFilm managed to sell fans on the idea twice.  Once in the EU novels and once in The Clone Wars.)

That said, pre-Disney Star Wars had its fair share of "Holy my beer" bad narrative decisionmaking too.  Phantom Menace introducing three different alien species that read like racist political cartoons, absolutely every bit of dialog between Anakin and Padme, so very much of the Expanded Universe.  It is not a new development by any means.

So......nothing is too weird for Disney then?

[Seto Kaiba]

3 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

So......nothing is too weird for Disney then?

Star Wars's Galaxy Far Far Away is an absolutely gargantuan setting that's allegedly home to over 20 million sentient species.

I'd assume the only practical limits on "weird" are the imagination of the writers and the size of the budget for practical and digital effects.

 

In a way, isn't that kind of the theme here?  Skeleton Crew is a story about some bored kids from a nice, safe, middle class neighborhood where nothing interesting ever happens digging up a buried spaceship and finding out how weird, wild, and dangerous the rest of the Galaxy Far Far Away really is.

[jvmacross]

19 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

It'd be a bit too weird for Disney to make a kid into a cybernetics fetishist like that ridiculous moped gang from The Book of Boba Fett

 

13 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Star Wars's Galaxy Far Far Away is an absolutely gargantuan setting that's allegedly home to over 20 million sentient species.

I'd assume the only practical limits on "weird" are the imagination of the writers and the size of the budget for practical and digital effects.

 

In a way, isn't that kind of the theme here?  Skeleton Crew is a story about some bored kids from a nice, safe, middle class neighborhood where nothing interesting ever happens digging up a buried spaceship and finding out how weird, wild, and dangerous the rest of the Galaxy Far Far Away really is.

Ok....so you no longer feel anything would be too weird for Disney to do?

[Seto Kaiba]

27 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Ok....so you no longer feel anything would be too weird for Disney to do?

Nothing is too weird for the Star Wars setting as a whole.

Disney's in this to make money, though... so I expect the writers of this kid's show will keep the weirdness to a kid-friendly and marketably controversy-free level.

(Elective cybernetics might veer too closely to a politically-polarizing real world topic for Disney's comfort.)

Edited November 4, 2024 by Seto Kaiba

[azrael]

'Also will likely refrain from commenting every week and will let the show go till the end. Since Andor was a slow-burner and this show may/may not be the same, I'm not gonna jump on the troll train and say "BOOOOOOO" or whatever every week before this show ends. If something comes up in a certain episode that flags my attention, I may point it out, but otherwise, I'll let this show run its course.

[Seto Kaiba]

2 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

At the least, it'll show the difference between the "safe" parts of the Star Wars universe and the ones we see in the Trilogies.

That alone was enough to get my attention.

So much of Star Wars is focused on military affairs or the life of ne'er-do-wells on the fringes of society that there's little indication of what life is like for the billions upon billions of normal workaday folks who aren't living and working in the almost-literal ivory towers of the rich and powerful, the wretched hives of the crime lords, or the little farming villages in the middle of nowhere.  Skeleton Crew'll be doing some interesting worldbuilding.

[jvmacross]

I won't let people's opinions get me all flustered like some on here clearly do...everyone is free to express whatever they want...you can either agree, not agree, or not care/not respond...just don't try and silence anyone with an opposing opinion or comment....it's just a TV show, no one is insulting anyone's mother...no need to summon the  dog whistles of 'Toxic Fandom', 'Troll Train', etc just because what is being said does not align with your thoughts...

With that said, this show has a high probability of being another in a long line of Disney Star Wars Sh!t Shows....as I said, I'll watch it anyways, I want it to be good, but I have been disappointed too many times already...

[jvmacross]

1 minute ago, pengbuzz said:

Can I at least go get a cup of hot cocoa?

Ran out of Kool-Aid?

[jvmacross]

4 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

No, Pepsi. The truck doesn't come until Tuesday.

OK, then go for the Hot Cocoa

[sh9000]

Let's go.

 

[Thom]

Let's fudgin go!

[jvmacross]

Them scurvy pirates will probably be as "murderous" as these....

 

[sh9000]

 

Behind the scenes.

 

[Bolt]

The pirates look to be (or at least sound) like the pirates from the mandalorian. 

[sh9000]

https://www.starwars.com/news/who-are-the-pirates-of-the-new-republic

The Pirates of the New Republic.

[sh9000]

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2024 by sh9000

[Roy Focker]

It gets my seal of approval. Kids go off on adventure and encounter pirates. The tone is good. Kids can act. Watching it wasn't a chore. I look forward to watching the rest.

[electric indigo]

Also, the cinematography is miles above the latest, rather bland productions IMO.

[Duke Togo]

This show is off to a good start. I like everything they're doing so far.

So, it sounds like

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the planet these kids are from has been isolated from the rest of the galaxy since before the old Republic fell. So, they don't know what's happened with the Empire and the New Republic.

 

[Thom]

Enjoyed the first two episodes. Way better than the Acolyte! (I hope that is not too low of a bar for some...😉)

1 hour ago, Duke Togo said:

This show is off to a good start. I like everything they're doing so far.

So, it sounds like

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the planet these kids are from has been isolated from the rest of the galaxy since before the old Republic fell. So, they don't know what's happened with the Empire and the New Republic.

 

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Makes me wonder how much those in charge of At Attin know? They have their 'Great Work' that everyone seems to be moving towards, so I wonder if they might end up being a big bad, or in-league with others.

Though I definitely am sure who Jude Law's character is. From the moment the Pirate Captain shows up with his helmet, before being deposed, I just knew that was him. Though surprised that he is Force-sensitive. You just know he's going to start living up the Jedi-persona he's taken on to fool the kids. makes me wonder if he is a survivor from one of the Temples, kind of like the Reva, the Third Sister.

And I don't know why, but I love the fact that the ship was upside down!

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Thom

[azrael]

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Yeah.... 'Bettin that "Great Barrier" has kept the inhabitants of At Attin from knowing what's going on in the galaxy. As far back as Old Republic from the looks of it (judging by Wim's credits). Jude Law's character will is probably taking advantage of the kids. Maybe end as a thief-with-a-heart cliche.

*switches Lurker-mode back on"

[Graham]

After the disappointments of most of the recent live action Star Wars shows, I actually found myself enjoying the first 2 episodes of Skeleton Crew.

[Seto Kaiba]

Hmmm... it's been so busy at work I legitimately forgot this series was releasing this week!

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Huh... the way it was advertised, I thought this was supposed to be something of a kid's show. 

The first onscreen character death comes at just 1:36 into the first episode.  Within 90 seconds there's more than a dozen people dead and this is just the first scene.  Years of our boy Hondo have clearly set my expectations for Star Wars space pirates too far into the "kid friendly" zone.  Yikes.

I do love that bit of dark comedy where, after having the freighter's captain spaced for refusing to open the vault and giving a boastful speech, the pirate captain kicks down the freshly cut vault door to find a single credit waiting for him... at which point he's promptly confronted by a mutiny.

It is, in a very strange way, unaccountably nice to see that the Galaxy Far Far Away actually does have a Nice Place to Live.

The whole "space suburbia" thing has this wonderfully 80's retrofuturism to it.  Half the walls are at a 45 degree angle for no reason, there's lots of leatherette and wood paneling, the alien neighbors are walking alien pets, and the neighbor's robot lawnmower is just a droid pushing a regular pushmower.  The care that went into the visual design for really does a lot to make At Attin feel truly lived-in.  Or I guess it's lived-on?

The bus driver even looks to be the same model of droid from the old Galaxy Tours attraction.

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Star Wars has been so focused on orphans and kids from rural backgrounds that it honestly feels both weird and refreshing to have characters who actually do something as mundane as going to a normal school and take standardized tests.  Even if it is run by droids for some reason.

The exploration of the buried ship is a neat, and well-done bit of cinematography too.  Having it be upside-down is a very nice touch.  I did crack up a bit how Wim's dad sees the landscape start to heave up as the ship lifts off, and just IMMEDIATELY starts walking backwards without missing a beat.  I'm not sure if he's just emotionally dead or he's rational enough to know he wants no part of that.  The ship shedding all that dirt and debris as it slowly rolls over is a very cool effects shot too.  (The puff of dust it leaves behind when it jumps to hyperspace is fun touch too.)

The droid being named SM-33... Smee, as in, Mr. Smee from Peter Pan is a nice touch.

Wim... Wim is increasingly giving "Too dumb to live" vibes.  Like 80% of the things that happen in the first episode and a half happen because his first instinct seems to be to do whatever the most recent person to speak to him told him NOT to do.  

 

I am unaccountably happy that, on Skeleton Crew, someone actually did find skeletons of the ship's original crew.  I was hoping that gag would come up and it did.

 

The spaceport scene's another one where the showrunners clearly put a ton of effort into making the place look and feel lived in.  From the grunge everywhere to the weird hawkers giving informercial-esque sales pitches for assassin droids.

(It really is convenient that they're from the one planet absolutely bloody nobody has heard of.  Or apparently that absolutely nobody thinks is real.)

 

I admit I am bit lost at one point... weren't Old Republic credits basically worthless outside the Republic in The Phantom Menace?  Why are they apparently worth fighting for now?  

 

SM-33's kind of a badass.  Best droid beatdown since K-2SO humbled all those Stormtroopers in Rogue One.  And we're back to the same pirate crew we saw murdering tons of people at the start.  That actually works really nicely as an organic way to merge those two storylines.  

 

All in all, not a bad start at all.  I'm interested to see where it goes.

[Keith]

1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Hmmm... it's been so busy at work I legitimately forgot this series was releasing this week!

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Huh... the way it was advertised, I thought this was supposed to be something of a kid's show. 

The first onscreen character death comes at just 1:36 into the first episode.  Within 90 seconds there's more than a dozen people dead and this is just the first scene.  Years of our boy Hondo have clearly set my expectations for Star Wars space pirates too far into the "kid friendly" zone.  Yikes.

I do love that bit of dark comedy where, after having the freighter's captain spaced for refusing to open the vault and giving a boastful speech, the pirate captain kicks down the freshly cut vault door to find a single credit waiting for him... at which point he's promptly confronted by a mutiny.

It is, in a very strange way, unaccountably nice to see that the Galaxy Far Far Away actually does have a Nice Place to Live.

The whole "space suburbia" thing has this wonderfully 80's retrofuturism to it.  Half the walls are at a 45 degree angle for no reason, there's lots of leatherette and wood paneling, the alien neighbors are walking alien pets, and the neighbor's robot lawnmower is just a droid pushing a regular pushmower.  The care that went into the visual design for really does a lot to make At Attin feel truly lived-in.  Or I guess it's lived-on?

The bus driver even looks to be the same model of droid from the old Galaxy Tours attraction.

  Reveal hidden contents

Star Wars has been so focused on orphans and kids from rural backgrounds that it honestly feels both weird and refreshing to have characters who actually do something as mundane as going to a normal school and take standardized tests.  Even if it is run by droids for some reason.

The exploration of the buried ship is a neat, and well-done bit of cinematography too.  Having it be upside-down is a very nice touch.  I did crack up a bit how Wim's dad sees the landscape start to heave up as the ship lifts off, and just IMMEDIATELY starts walking backwards without missing a beat.  I'm not sure if he's just emotionally dead or he's rational enough to know he wants no part of that.  The ship shedding all that dirt and debris as it slowly rolls over is a very cool effects shot too.  (The puff of dust it leaves behind when it jumps to hyperspace is fun touch too.)

The droid being named SM-33... Smee, as in, Mr. Smee from Peter Pan is a nice touch.

Wim... Wim is increasingly giving "Too dumb to live" vibes.  Like 80% of the things that happen in the first episode and a half happen because his first instinct seems to be to do whatever the most recent person to speak to him told him NOT to do.  

 

I am unaccountably happy that, on Skeleton Crew, someone actually did find skeletons of the ship's original crew.  I was hoping that gag would come up and it did.

 

The spaceport scene's another one where the showrunners clearly put a ton of effort into making the place look and feel lived in.  From the grunge everywhere to the weird hawkers giving informercial-esque sales pitches for assassin droids.

(It really is convenient that they're from the one planet absolutely bloody nobody has heard of.  Or apparently that absolutely nobody thinks is real.)

 

I admit I am bit lost at one point... weren't Old Republic credits basically worthless outside the Republic in The Phantom Menace?  Why are they apparently worth fighting for now?  

 

SM-33's kind of a badass.  Best droid beatdown since K-2SO humbled all those Stormtroopers in Rogue One.  And we're back to the same pirate crew we saw murdering tons of people at the start.  That actually works really nicely as an organic way to merge those two storylines.  

 

All in all, not a bad start at all.  I'm interested to see where it goes.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this series, the first ep was very unnerving with the jump from Harlock-esque harpoon tubes into ships (frakkin' awesome) to "Space Suburbia". I haven't watched the second ep yet, but the end of the first left me with a wild theory.

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Kids from the blandest part of the universe set off on an adventure & pirates. One black, one an elephant dude whatever that species is.....

What if this 

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Is a prequal to or redo of "Captain EO!

Haven't read up yet to see if that's a common theory, or if I'm just completely off my nut.

No matter what happens, this is already 100x better than "The Acolyte".

Edited December 4, 2024 by Keith

[TangledThorns]

Glad there is positive reviews here. Will watch as soon as all the episodes are released.