jenius Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I think it's a factor of WWM and an attempt to test the waters with some known winners... Why WWM started with a new non canon VF-25, I understand less. Quote
68whiskey Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, HardlyNever said: I guess I'd be part of the target audience for this. I only have 1 VF-31 (Arad) and he's usually suited up in his sumo suit armored parts. I like the VF-31, and the super parts but... I don't know if I care to get this. Maybe will get it if/when it goes on discount from a stateside retailer (like Amazon). Is anyone else concerned on the number of reissues/"revivals" we're getting at this point? I know Macross is niche, and we haven't gotten a truly new IP in... like 8 years, but is this like... the beginning of the end? Macross collecting just seems flooded with reissues, where as 5-6 years ago we were getting actually new stuff pretty regularly. you want a discounted VF-31AX from the first release? I have 4 and need to get rid of one , ill give it to you at nearly half price Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I actually wonder.. given the change in exchange rate, this release might wind up cheaper than the original, and include the super packs. I had the same thing happen with the re-released Arcadia Fire Valk. The recent reissue with the sound booster cost me the same as the original Yamato release without it. Quote
Paco Grande Posted April 24 Posted April 24 17 hours ago, jenius said: I think it's a factor of WWM and an attempt to test the waters with some known winners... Why WWM started with a new non canon VF-25, I understand less. I might be able to offer a little bit of insight here. I only started collecting DX Macross figures after the VF-1 figures started coming out because I'm old school and I've only seen the original SDFM, DYRL and Macross Plus. I have not seen anything after that so I don't have much interest in the newer valks. But I ended up buying the WWM VF-25 first release anniversary figure because it was on sale on Amazon locally and because it has a nice colour scheme and the Skull Squadron symbol on it which appeals to me. I also think it's a beautiful valk design. But I didn't really appreciate that until that anniversary edition popped up for some reason. Anyway that figure was a gateway drug for me and I ended up buying the revivals of the VF-25F with super parts and the VF-171EX. I have not received the 171 yet and I've heard it's a pain to transform. But I'm happy with my two VF-25s and it's causing me to start paying more attention to all the new valks after those (which is why I'm in this thread). I'm trying not to because I'm out of display space and these valks are very expensive to import to Canada. And the WWM pricing for retailers outside of Japan has not been great. Anyway, what I'm saying is that I'm most likely not the only one in this situation so that may have been Bandai's evil plan. Start up WWM and then get people like me buying revivals. I'm also buying the YF-21 of course because I'm a huge fan of M+ but I'm really not happy about the crazy price they are charging in North America. I'm never able to land a purchase on pre-order madness night so I've given up and paying the piper. Quote
jenius Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) Well I got one from HLJ so, someday, I'll review it and look hard for differences. Edited April 26 by jenius Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted April 27 Posted April 27 On 4/22/2024 at 10:31 PM, MKT said: Now that I looked back on the Tamashii page for the 31J with Speakerpods, the blurb seems pretty inconsistent. On one hand they make a big deal about Absolute Live, as if it came from that movie (the movie doesn't show it). Even the box has the Absolute Live logo. On other hand, in the same page they acknowledge it comes from the series' Episode 6. Which we know the Speakerpods are shown with Supers. how come the new release doesn't come with speakers? 320 us prices, i would like reaction missiles and speakers Quote
MKT Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Bandai not only not completing a series now, but make you buy multiples just for little accessories. Want speakerpods? Get the 31J with speakerpods.. Want reaction missiles? Get the 31J Kai.. Want supers? Here's the bundle set. I really wonder how they will handle the Armors. So far, there hasn't been WWM releases for standalone accessories that traditionally have been P-Bandai / TWE only. They chose to make them into bundle sets for WWM, so I wonder if there will be VF-25 Armored or VF-31 Armored bundles one day, just like the VF-1J GBP. The US MSRP would be crazy though.. Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted April 27 Posted April 27 9 minutes ago, MKT said: Bandai not only not completing a series now, but make you buy multiples just for little accessories. I think they've been that way for decades... 13 minutes ago, MKT said: I really wonder how they will handle the Armors. We'll know how they handle equipment packs once the YF-21 releases. It comes with fold booster struts, while the 19 lacks that as well as weapons and fast packs. Bandai is literally setting themselves up with the need to demonstrate how they will handle these things under WWM releases. I wouldn't be surprised if they just prove they will only continue to release incomplete collections for decades to come though lol. Quote
MKT Posted April 27 Posted April 27 2 hours ago, PointBlankSniper said: We'll know how they handle equipment packs once the YF-21 releases. It comes with fold booster struts, while the 19 lacks that as well as weapons and fast packs. Bandai is literally setting themselves up with the need to demonstrate how they will handle these things under WWM releases. I wouldn't be surprised if they just prove they will only continue to release incomplete collections for decades to come though lol. Yup, we can naturally surmise Bandai may release a fold booster + weapons pack for the YF-19, with the fold booster being compatible with the YF-21. But time and again the only predictable thing about Bandai is its unpredictability. Folks still waiting for DYRL Max VF-1 after Bandai included the blue roundels on the Strike packs ages ago.. I wouldn't be surprised that for WWM fold booster & weapons pack for YF-19, Bandai will choose to make it a bundle set with the valk all over again. Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Kind of sad to consider, but that basically boils Bandai's entire marketing strategy down to FOMO (fear of missing out). "Better buy everything we release, no matter how much or little you like it, because you never know when we'll release another thing you actually want that will interact with the thing you never bought in an essential way." Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted April 28 Posted April 28 It's pretty sad how true that is. They can't just sell a good toy that everyone wants. I just happened to notice this going on with Tekken 8 yesterday, and boy were the reviews bad. The funny part is that bandai forgot the FOMO part to their plan, so it's just a post launch surprise nickel and diming scheme on a product with no scarcity, and a lack of polish that people demand the most. It feels like bandai is repeating the same thing here with the 31J being so abundant, yet missing bits and pieces that people want the most. Quote
Bolt Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Perhaps the endless re release of the VF-1 , by everyone, is their justification. Quote
Lolicon Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Yeah but the VF-1 is from a good show. Delta is hot garbage. Quote
Bolt Posted April 28 Posted April 28 15 minutes ago, Lolicon said: Yeah but the VF-1 is from a good show. Delta is hot garbage. Lol. Ya.. but the VF designs are pretty cool. I know, i know, the VF-1 is where it all started. But decades later, here we are getting more VF-1 releases. ( i roll my eyes at myself as i keep buying VF-1's too) So apparently Bandai thinks this additional release is also a sure bet.. Quote
Graham Posted April 29 Posted April 29 I'm going to pass on this, as I've already got 2 VF-31J and VF-31J Super parts first issue. Already got full VF-31 Delta Sqaudron DX TV toys. I just wish Bandai would release VF-31AX Arad and VF-31AX Chuck DX toys from Zettai Live. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Or just re-release the base -31A. Especially the one with Arad's marking on the spine. Quote
no3Ljm Posted May 2 Posted May 2 30 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said: Or just re-release the base -31A. Especially the one with Arad's marking on the spine. Or they could just bundle the base 31A with Super Parts. It's the only 31 I'm going to rebuy if they do that. Quote
Chronocidal Posted May 2 Posted May 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, no3Ljm said: Or they could just bundle the base 31A with Super Parts. It's the only 31 I'm going to rebuy if they do that. Exactly this. Maybe I'm overly biased toward realistic looking aircraft schemes, and just sick of Hayate reissues, but I don't see why anyone in the international market would pick Hayate over the Kairos at this point, given the option. It's been my impression for a while that the biggest demand for those was outside Japan anyhow, so why aren't they going after that demand instead of re-issuing the same copy for the fourth time? Anyone in the international market who wanted that one probably got it a long time ago, and unlike Frontier, I don't think Delta has nearly as much international audience to begin with. Maybe it's a benefit to finally come packed with the super packs, I guess, but I'd still rather see something different. Edited May 2 by Chronocidal Quote
jenius Posted May 2 Posted May 2 This release isn't for us. It's Bandai's way of seeing if there's a big international market that was shut out before WWM. They're using their most popular toys to do that, not their most obscure ones. Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted May 2 Posted May 2 This delta toy is for no one. Delta had a poor audience. WWM release won't move the needle in any significant direction. Major shelf-warmer incoming. 3 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Or they could just bundle the base 31A with Super Parts. It's the only 31 I'm going to rebuy if they do that. Oooo, i need this one... Quote
Chronocidal Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 hour ago, jenius said: This release isn't for us. It's Bandai's way of seeing if there's a big international market that was shut out before WWM. They're using their most popular toys to do that, not their most obscure ones. I can understand the logic of using a popular release to test the international waters, but when the market has been saturated with Hayate VF-31s for several years already, and anyone in the international markets who was that interested in Delta probably already acquired one (or more) anyhow, it feels dumb to me to use this as a measuring stick. 1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said: This delta toy is for no one. Delta had a poor audience. WWM release won't move the needle in any significant direction. Major shelf-warmer incoming. This is my concern. Trying to judge demand for Macross items based on something that has a low baseline demand in this market to begin with, and those who were interested in are probably already tired of. Even if it gets heavily discounted, it's extremely unlikely I'm going to try and buy another of this same VF-31. Not that I'm expecting them to revisit the 31A at all, I just think they would get much better sales of that one by comparison, just from the relative demand that currently exists. Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted May 3 Posted May 3 They should drop the drone charger from the 31As and retcon it with the dual triangular cannon pod thing from the master file. I bet that would really move sales. Quote
MKT Posted May 3 Posted May 3 (edited) Let's assume this WWM release somehow gets a good sales reception - I'm betting Bandai won't move on to the 31A next, but with Messer 31F. Edited May 3 by MKT Quote
weiser21 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 What's the difference between the DX Chogokin Super VF-31J original version and the revival version? Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted May 7 Posted May 7 2 hours ago, weiser21 said: What's the difference between the DX Chogokin Super VF-31J original version and the revival version? All we know is that the new one comes with super pack and no missiles, making the missiles originally from the seperately sold super pack all the more unlikely to be made available again lol I'm gonna predict the canopy will turn out to be a slightly different shade for absolutely no reason though lol. Quote
Sanity is Optional Posted May 7 Posted May 7 (edited) Just wondering. Does anyone remember which 31/accessory set came with the missiles in a bag, rather than the tray? Boxing up my figures and putting some up for sale, and for the life of me I can't remember where this pair of missiles from one of my 31s came from. Edited May 7 by Sanity is Optional Quote
dur Posted May 7 Posted May 7 3 hours ago, PointBlankSniper said: All we know is that the new one comes with super pack and no missiles, making the missiles originally from the seperately sold super pack all the more unlikely to be made available again lol I'm gonna predict the canopy will turn out to be a slightly different shade for absolutely no reason though lol. Well, technically the missiles were never available with hayate's supers- only with the 31j-kai release. Mirage's supers came with missiles and arad came with missiles with his valk, and I think that's the only way we ever got them? (IIRC). Quote
Chronocidal Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Are they seriously releasing this one without the missiles again? Seriously, what is wrong with these people that they can't just include things they should? I'm guessing the bagged missiles came with the 31J-Kai then though, since they probably didn't have new trays available until Arad's release. Quote
MKT Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Sanity is Optional said: Just wondering. Does anyone remember which 31/accessory set came with the missiles in a bag, rather than the tray? Boxing up my figures and putting some up for sale, and for the life of me I can't remember where this pair of missiles from one of my 31s came from. So far, all 3 missile pairs do have their place in the tray. Cribbing from anymoon.com: Arad’s 31S: Hayate’s 31J Kai: Mirage’s Supers: Quote
Mommar Posted May 8 Posted May 8 On 5/2/2024 at 12:47 PM, no3Ljm said: Or they could just bundle the base 31A with Super Parts. It's the only 31 I'm going to rebuy if they do that. I would buy three. Quote
no3Ljm Posted August 29 Posted August 29 Release date has now been posted. September 21, 2024. https://tamashiiweb.com/item/14876/?wovn=en Quote
seti88 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) On 5/3/2024 at 2:47 AM, no3Ljm said: Or they could just bundle the base 31A with Super Parts. It's the only 31 I'm going to rebuy if they do that. Man...not sure if i would want to participate in 31A pre-order debacles...as much as i love the valk... scammers/scalpers would be all over this...🙊 discussion for another thread i suppose... Edited August 30 by seti88 Quote
no3Ljm Posted August 30 Posted August 30 2 hours ago, seti88 said: Man...not sure if i would want to participate in 31A pre-order debacles...as much as i love the valk... Just to answer, @seti88. I'll only participate if it bundles with Super Parts. Quote
Slave IV Posted August 30 Posted August 30 9 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Just to answer, @seti88. I'll only participate if it bundles with Super Parts. What, and miss out on two preorder madnesses?🤣 Quote
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