Mog Posted February 2 Posted February 2 No, in the subtitles. Those words don’t show up at all, even though I know I’m hearing them. Quote
Master Dex Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Well I have yet to watch Frontier on stream actually, I'm still finishing a 7 rewatch. If I remember I'll watch for that. Quote
kajnrig Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Broke down and got a Hulu sub to watch M7 for the first time. Two episodes in and... boy, it is 90s as HELLLL . All the hallmarks of 90s anime, and 90s pop rock. Phew. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to make it all the way through. Just for comparison, I threw on the first two episodes of Frontier and they hold up muuuch better. And there's 50 episodes left to go, AND the OVAs, AND the movies... Quote
Big s Posted February 3 Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, kajnrig said: Broke down and got a Hulu sub to watch M7 for the first time. Two episodes in and... boy, it is 90s as HELLLL . All the hallmarks of 90s anime, and 90s pop rock. Phew. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to make it all the way through. Just for comparison, I threw on the first two episodes of Frontier and they hold up muuuch better. And there's 50 episodes left to go, AND the OVAs, AND the movies... 90’s anime wasn’t too bad, but Macross 7 isn’t the easiest show to watch. 50ish episodes plus the ova’s and a whole lot of reused animation. I find it a bit tough myself, but I’ve never watched it with non bootleg subs. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I always felt part of the struggle with 7 was actually that the early episodes really fall into that "monster of the week" formula you get with so many Japanese shows (sentai-especially), where you have a pile of nearly identical episodes that all start out with a minor plot point, and then resolve exactly the same way when the big bad gets driven off by the main characters using their designated super power. I don't remember how many of those episodes there are, but I feel like it didn't really pick up until I got 10-20 episodes in, once they actually developed the setting a bit more. The series could probably be easily condensed down into a 26 episode run with a little editing. Quote
GreenGuy42 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Last time I watched Macross 7 was sometime in the early 2000's with a bootleg using terrible English subtitles. I'm loving being able to watch it in an official way. I sold all my Macross toys back in college to cover bills. I've just purchased the new DX Chogokin YF-19 and Hi-Metal VF-4. I even got my wife, who generally hates anime, to watch Macross Plus! It's been a long time since I've been this excited about Macross. Quote
Big s Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 hours ago, GreenGuy42 said: Last time I watched Macross 7 was sometime in the early 2000's with a bootleg using terrible English subtitles. Same here Quote
jenius Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Big s said: Same here Haha, I'm in that club also. Quote
Powered Convoy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Same, but I gave up after a few episodes. Looking to right that wrong. Edited February 4 by Powered Convoy Quote
Graham Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Macross 7 is awesome, I absolutely love it, I just finished what must be my 5th or 6th re-watch over the decades, since first watching it on bootleg VHS tapes back in 1994. BOMBA! Quote
kajnrig Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) On 2/3/2025 at 1:52 AM, Chronocidal said: I don't remember how many of those episodes there are, but I feel like it didn't really pick up until I got 10-20 episodes in, once they actually developed the setting a bit more. The series could probably be easily condensed down into a 26 episode run with a little editing. Yeah, I've heard this sentiment made a lot here, so I'm steeling my resolve to push through it. I also had that same sense after those first few episodes, that it could be condensed fairly easily. I'm surprised there's no compilation movie, either. 9 hours ago, Graham said: Macross 7 is awesome, I absolutely love it, I just finished what must be my 5th or 6th re-watch over the decades, since first watching it on bootleg VHS tapes back in 1994. BOMBA! See, this is what I mean. Everyone who gets through the whole thing LOVES it, but everyone who gets through the whole thing also says that it takes a looong time to get going (and reuses a lot of animation, which boy were they not kidding. Not even GOOD reused animation, either... We really were spoiled by Zero/Frontier ). Edited February 4 by kajnrig Quote
Duke Togo Posted February 4 Posted February 4 33 minutes ago, kajnrig said: See, this is what I mean. Everyone who gets through the whole thing LOVES it I've watched the entire series twice in the past 20-something years and I definitely do not like it at all, lol. Quote
locidm Posted February 4 Posted February 4 My brother is getting back into Macross after 30 years thanks to the streaming on Hulu. I recommended him to start with zero, then plus, then go straight to Frontier. He asked about 7, I said it's really hard to watch unless you're a big Macross fan. While there are some charming moments, the plot just does not move forward much. Then he said, oh that sounds great, because he can watch it in the background and not worry about missing key moments. Quote
kajnrig Posted February 4 Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, Duke Togo said: I've watched the entire series twice in the past 20-something years and I definitely do not like it at all, lol. Okay, everybody -1 Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) I've rewatched Macross 7 a few times over the years. I remember I absolutely hated it when I first watched it, partly because of the awful subs and the first half endlessly recycling the same 2-3 songs, but mainly because Basara is a pillock. Some 20 years later, I love Macross 7. I still think Basara is a pillock, but I sympathize so much with Mylene, Gamlin, and even Gigile being absolutely confounded by his bullsh*t and visibly restraining their desire to throttle him at many points in the series. Edited February 4 by Seto Kaiba Quote
Big s Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Some 20 years later, I love Macross 7. I still think Basara is a pillock I don’t really know what a “pillock” is, but he does come of as a special kinda douche most of the time Quote
JB0 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 hours ago, kajnrig said: I also had that same sense after those first few episodes, that it could be condensed fairly easily. I'm surprised there's no compilation movie, either. They eventually made one, as a Frontier crossover. It is somehow even worse-paced. Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) Macross 7 in Gundam terms was comparable to Double Zeta. Starts out with ridicule like ZZ and a slow burn in character development. The build up and payoff at the end is great, M7 series is one of the most rewatchable out of the Macross franchise. I can't say the same for Zero, I'll just fast forward to the battle scenes and stop after. Edited February 5 by davidwhangchoi Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Big s said: I don’t really know what a “pillock” is, but he does come of as a special kinda douche most of the time It's a more flavorful way of calling someone a particularly annoying idiot. Of course, given his hyperfixation on music and inability to pick up social cues, he's probably just high-functioning autistic rather than an idiot... not that that makes him any less obnoxious. Either way, it's easier to treat him as a walking plot device rather than a character in his own right. Quote
Dynaman Posted February 5 Posted February 5 7 hours ago, kajnrig said: Okay, everybody -1 Make that -2. Mind you there is a decent story underneath the ddddrrrraaaawwwwnnnn (drawn) out run time. The hanna Barrbara looking villains don't help matters either. Quote
camk4evr Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I admit, I only watched Macross 7 once (I can't remember where I put the bootleg dvds). I started rewatching Macross 7 last week and found that I still like it. I still think any episode can be improved by someone beating Basara about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 for a few minutes. Quote
Jeff J Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Macross FB7 is pretty much the only way I can consume Macross 7 these days. I never cared for the series, but I have an odd nostalgia for it. Its soundtrack gives me the feels. Quote
Knight26 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Doing me rewatch now. I did kind of skim the first half of Mac-7, the second half is definitely where it gets good. And I finally saw Frontier: Labyrinth of Time. I emjoyed it. Just started Delta, will be seeing the movies for the first time this way. I still prefer the Frontier Movies to the series (overall). And Flashback 7 was good, especially in that it cut out so much of the Mac7 filler. Quote
kajnrig Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Knight26 said: I did kind of skim the first half of Mac-7 That's where I'm at currently. In the time it took me to skip through the first... 7? (apropos, that) episodes of M7, I've binged through half of MF. Also agree about Labyrinth of Time and MF movies > TV. Alto's personal drama is a bit poorly defined in both versions. I remember feeling something similar on first viewing, but it stands out this time for some reason, as well as the rather lopsided nature of the triangle. I took renewed enjoyment out of Ranka and Sheryl's relationship/rivalry, though. (Similar thing in my DYRL 4k rewatch, coincidentally, the idol character was more interesting this time around.) 6 hours ago, Knight26 said: And Flashback 7 was good, especially in that it cut out so much of the Mac7 filler. So that's two votes for FB7, and one against. If I can't get into M7 after... I dunno, I'll give it to episode 15 or so... then I might just check that out instead. Half a month left to blitz through the whole franchise. Wish me luck! Quote
jenius Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I thought the Frontier movies were missed opportunities the first time I watched them. I would have much preferred them do a two hour long movie that started a little further ahead in the timeline like DYRL. Curious to see how I'll feel after another viewing. I've made it through Zero, then watched the 4K DYRL DVD, it's onto Plus and then Seven. Quote
twich Posted yesterday at 03:20 AM Posted yesterday at 03:20 AM Macross Plus Movie Edition added where I had not seen it before. Twich Quote
Jasonc Posted yesterday at 03:49 AM Posted yesterday at 03:49 AM I haven't cared too much about watching these on streaming, but I was a bit happy to see this post, hinting at working again on physical media. Courtesy of Bigwest's Facebook Quote
Big s Posted yesterday at 04:15 PM Posted yesterday at 04:15 PM 12 hours ago, twich said: Macross Plus Movie Edition added where I had not seen it before. Twich The plus movie was on Hulu on day one of streaming. It was one of my first tests the second day for the subtitles, but I had added it to my list the very first day. The Macross 2 movie wasn’t on there though. Although I don’t remember if anything was different between the Macross 2 movie and Ova series. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted yesterday at 05:30 PM Posted yesterday at 05:30 PM 1 hour ago, Big s said: The plus movie was on Hulu on day one of streaming. It was one of my first tests the second day for the subtitles, but I had added it to my list the very first day. The Macross 2 movie wasn’t on there though. Although I don’t remember if anything was different between the Macross 2 movie and Ova series. The only difference between the Macross 2 OVA and movie versions are the omission of the OP and ED in order to string the six episodes together into one contiguous story. Even the title cards are still present. Quote
twich Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM 1 hour ago, Big s said: The plus movie was on Hulu on day one of streaming. It was one of my first tests the second day for the subtitles, but I had added it to my list the very first day. The Macross 2 movie wasn’t on there though. Although I don’t remember if anything was different between the Macross 2 movie and Ova series. That is funny, I specifically searched for Macross Plus movie edition the first time I checked Disney plus and the OVA was the o lot thing to show up, then a few days ago, the movie edition popped up for me. Must be something screwy with the app. Twich Quote
Big s Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, twich said: That is funny, I specifically searched for Macross Plus movie edition the first time I checked Disney plus and the OVA was the o lot thing to show up, then a few days ago, the movie edition popped up for me. Must be something screwy with the app. Twich Probably, or it could just have been the way they were grouped. Hulu had things oddly separated by movie or tv, even though some in the tv section were ova’s, but I had to do a separate search in the movie section to get the movies to pop up on the first day while adding things to my list When people first started complaining about the lack of any subtitles at launch, those were the first things I played around with to try and see what was going on. I did also try Flashback 2012, even though that was the first thing I watched. The first night right at release, I did 2012, but didn’t even think to try subtitles since it’s mostly music, but the plus stuff and that were on everyone’s complaint list for lack of subtitles. 4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: The only difference between the Macross 2 OVA and movie versions are the omission of the OP and ED in order to string the six episodes together into one contiguous story. Even the title cards are still present. that’s kinda what I remembered, but it’s been many years and I mainly say the ova, and maybe the movie once. I didn’t remember any changes to it at all, and that’s probably why they didn’t include the movie version Quote
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