Old_Nash_II Posted February 8 Posted February 8 First look on Moana 2 After the "fiasco" of Wish Quote
Mog Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Is this where Maui pushes for himself to be the Tribal Chief despite Cody, I mean, Moana doing most of the hard work to return the heart and lead her people to a new island? 😜 (Sorry, a bunch of pro wrestling references there.) Quote
jvmacross Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Wish was the first Disney animated movie I did not go see in the theatres post Covid.....lol I'll probaby skip Moana 2 and wait for the D+ release..... Quote
kalvasflam Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) Given that Maui is a demigod, and a board member, he doesn't need to go through a Royal Rumble to get ahead of the son of an American fat ass. (included reference to real life as well as make believe, and yes, Dusty was a bit on the heavy side, and please a few new moves that isn't the same variation of the Stunner... insane elbow for example) Edited February 8 by kalvasflam Quote
mechaninac Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Frozen 3, Toy Story 5, Inside Out 2, Moana 2... nothing original (they've proven incapable of creating new stuff that isn't trash), all sequels -- a strong whiff of desperation is in the air. Quote
TangledThorns Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) Hopefully it's better than FROZEN 2. I really enjoy MOANA for its Maori roots as my deceased step-dad is quarter Maori from Rotorua, New Zealand. NZ is like a second home for me and I've had 3 extended stays there since 1999. During my visit last August 2023 I heard the Moana soundtrack in retail stores and outside schools so its still very popular there. Edited February 8 by TangledThorns Quote
Thom Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) If it continues the story in a meaningful fashion and doesn't retread material to get there (looking at you Incredibles 2) then I'm fine with sequels. They are continuations of stories and characters I like, so it is nice to see more of them. Plus, they've been doing sequels for decades, so it's a lot more than just a 'whiff.' Again, if the story is good and continues the adventure, then I'm all up for it. And Frozen 2 was awesome! Edited February 8 by Thom Quote
mechaninac Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Most sequels Disney put out in the past (before mid-2010s) were Straight-to-DVD fare, and invariably inferior to the original to varying degrees from mildly passable to downright awful; at least they were never meant for theatrical release, and only intended as cheap cash grabs for diehard fans of a particular character or for little kids, who consume everything regardless of quality, to annoy their parents into buying. There is always room for a well crafted sequel to further characters in new stories -- classic Pixar (under Lasseter), the Cars franchise notwithstanding, was a master at it -- but the question is: can current Disney truly come up with anything worthy? The fact they have nothing original in the pipeline other than sequels to things that were good under far more competent and talented leadership that have been pushed out, is very telling. If they do make something good, great!.. but I wouldn't hold my breath. Quote
jenius Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Frozen 2 makes zero sense but Frozen felt much more sequel friendly than Moana. I'm very skeptical of this. Quote
TangledThorns Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 16 hours ago, jenius said: Frozen 2 makes zero sense but Frozen felt much more sequel friendly than Moana. I'm very skeptical of this. I have yet to see a Disney animated sequel that is better than the first. Ralph Breaks The Internet was equal to the first movie imho. Most sequel titles with just a number only don't ever seem to be an improvement over the original and comes across as lazy. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't think of one. Hence why I'm sure many are skeptical. edit: Toy Story 2, 3, etc all seem to be better than the original. Edited February 9 by TangledThorns Quote
Mog Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Toy Story 2 and 3 would like a word with you. 😉 Personally, I enjoyed Wreck-It-Ralph more than the sequel. But the Princess bits and the Slaughter Race solo were pretty amusing. Quote
Convectuoso Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) I haven't watched a single Disney sequel that was worth watching. And for Pixar movies, Toy Story 2 and 3 were the only exceptions Edited February 8 by Convectuoso Quote
Big s Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Mog said: Toy Story 2 and 3 would like a word with you. 😉 Personally, I enjoyed Wreck-It-Ralph more than the sequel. But the Princess bits and the Slaughter Race solo were pretty amusing. I do have to agree about Toy Story 2 and 3. But that’s definitely from a different era and management of Pixar Quote
Thom Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Toy Story has had a number of good sequels, the bet of which, IMO, being the last one. The feelz as Woody was saying goodbye always gets me. As for Frozen 2, the only thing I didn't get was what happened to the Fifth Spirit during the intro events? What happened to it that it needed to be 'reborn' in Elsa? Otherwise, it was a pretty tight and simple story, and it was made by the same team who did the first one which helps a lot. The new director for Moana 2 has a good run working on the some successful films, Megamind, Raya, the newer Lion King and How to Train Your Dragon for a few. So, here's to hoping a lot of the lessons from those movies have rubbed off on him. Quote
sh9000 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I liked the first movie so I'll check out the second one. Quote
TangledThorns Posted February 9 Posted February 9 My main complaint with FROZEN 2 is that it was too heavy on nostalgia/flash backs from the first movie which to me is lazy and didn't feel fresh. I'm hoping Moana 2 can learn from this. Shame that can't be more original with the title too. I think adding Maori language to the title would have been more fitting, they use Maori for the songs ffs. MOANA: Tangata Whenua (people of the land) for example. On a side note I'm not a fan of The Rock as an on screen actor but do enjoy his voice work in animation, looovvee "You're Welcome" so my expectations will be high for the sequel's music and songs too. Quote
Thom Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) And I really liked the flashback scenes in F2. IMO, they added to the history of the characters. That's not to say I'd want them to keep doing that in Frozen 3... In doing another one, it's time to move forward with a new story. As to the title, I like the idea, but I hate to say that most people may not get it, and it might turn them off. 'What is Tenaga Whenowat..?' And if you're not a fan of the Rock's live acting, how do you feel about him reprising his role in the live action Moana? Edited February 9 by Thom Quote
kalvasflam Posted February 10 Posted February 10 movie should mimic real life. Moana 2, Maui turns heel. Goes and causes tidal waves cause his family has been disrespected by.... someone. 😄 Quote
TangledThorns Posted February 10 Posted February 10 On 2/9/2024 at 8:41 AM, Thom said: And I really liked the flashback scenes in F2. IMO, they added to the history of the characters. That's not to say I'd want them to keep doing that in Frozen 3... In doing another one, it's time to move forward with a new story. As to the title, I like the idea, but I hate to say that most people may not get it, and it might turn them off. 'What is Tenaga Whenowat..?' And if you're not a fan of the Rock's live acting, how do you feel about him reprising his role in the live action Moana? The FROZEN flashbacks was overused in too many scenes imho. Most successful sequels have little to no flashbacks. Reference sure, but no flashbacks. Jury is still out for The Rock in a live action Moana but is that a good idea at this point? Seems kinda redundant with another animated movie coming out so soon. Quote
Thom Posted February 10 Posted February 10 6 hours ago, TangledThorns said: The FROZEN flashbacks was overused in too many scenes imho. Most successful sequels have little to no flashbacks. Reference sure, but no flashbacks. Jury is still out for The Rock in a live action Moana but is that a good idea at this point? Seems kinda redundant with another animated movie coming out so soon. I don't consider flashbacks to be a reason for success or failure in a sequel. There have been a lot of sequels with no flashbacks that have just sucked on their own merit. As for live action Moana, I'd stay for a double feature if they were playing the animated sequel with it back to back! Quote
Chronocidal Posted May 29 Posted May 29 (edited) Ok, I'm gonna be that old person, and say I think The Rescuers: Down Under was at least as good as the original. I can't say better, because the feels of the two films are so distinctly different (and the production style changed so much in the interim) but they're at least of a similar calibre. This is from before I even started to care about movies as an industry though, so I have no idea how Down Under was received in comparison, but I am surprised how much darker the tone went than the first one. You have to start digging back a ways before you can start to find good sequels though. This was even before my time, but I'm trying to remember if there might have been more than one theatrical "Winnie the Pooh" release. Edited May 29 by Chronocidal Quote
TangledThorns Posted August 10 Posted August 10 It's riding on the first film but not in a way that is annoying like FROZEN2 was. I hope the music is just as good as the first film too. Quote
Thom Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Glad to see it, but I hope the next trailer has a bit more 'energy.' Quote
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