sh9000 Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 https://www.startrek.com/news/star-trek-section-31-original-movie-event-michelle-yeoh Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 We have literally three seasons of rock-bottom rated Discovery episodes to show why this is a bad idea... but Kurtzman's ilk do not learn from their mistakes. Quote
Thom Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 Yeah, zero interest. Saturn, over on Starship Modeler, suggested they just put her back in the captain's chair as Captain Philippa Georgiou and build a series out from there. I like that idea. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Thom said: Yeah, zero interest. Saturn, over on Starship Modeler, suggested they just put her back in the captain's chair as Captain Philippa Georgiou and build a series out from there. I like that idea. I'd watch that... as long as it was prime!Georgiou and not Emperor Georgiou. I've got no interest in The Continuing Adventures of Girl Space Hitler: Secret Agent. Prime!Georgiou was the only character in Discovery's first season who acted like she belonged to the Starfleet and Star Trek we know and love. Quote
tekering Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Prime!Georgiou was the only character in Discovery's first season who acted like she belonged to the Starfleet and Star Trek we know and love. The only one? I thought Saru was a quintessentially Star Trek character... In fact, he acted more like Spock than Spock did in Discovery. 😅 Quote
Thom Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 11:01 PM, Seto Kaiba said: I'd watch that... as long as it was prime!Georgiou and not Emperor Georgiou. I've got no interest in The Continuing Adventures of Girl Space Hitler: Secret Agent. Prime!Georgiou was the only character in Discovery's first season who acted like she belonged to the Starfleet and Star Trek we know and love. Definitely Prime Georgiou! Quote
Dynaman Posted July 28 Posted July 28 I have Paramount+ so I'll watch this - but if that trailer is any indication I'll only be watching 20 minutes or so of it. Quote
lechuck Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Eh... seems like they are trying to do a Suicide Squad thing with Star Trek – acid characters with team play. I feel like this is not appropriate for something like Star Trek. Quote
pengbuzz Posted July 28 Posted July 28 This isn't Star Trek. If I want gritty, dark and dystopian, there are plenty of other franchises for that. They need to give Star Trek a rest for a while (continue SNW but not do much else new) and stop trying to be the next BSG:R Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted July 28 Posted July 28 *sigh* In a way, it's kind of impressive how committed Paramount is to ignoring audience feedback. Star Trek fans said loud and clear (and repeatedly) that they don't want this vaguely racist dystopian misery porn. That's a big part of why Star Trek: Discovery flopped domestically and internationally and was cancelled two seasons early to finish as the franchise's worst-rated series. The whole Section 31 concept was already pretty goofy in Deep Space Nine, but Discovery's version was so incredibly stupid that it was one of the most-mocked parts of the series up to that point. Even Lower Decks called out how stupid it was. That's why they put Michelle Yeoh's character on a bus. I'm amazed she didn't demand to exit sooner, given that she was stuck playing a cringeworthy and deeply racist "yellow peril" villain. I guess, at the very least, she might be able to use this to add a Razzie to her list of awards, because this looks absolutle dogsh*t. Quote
Thom Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Yeah, I don't need 'dark and gritty' in Star Trek. The same thing bit it in Battlestar Galactica, and Paramount can't seem to do it well anyway. Give me Star Trek Legacy, Paramount! Quote
Mog Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Meh, always viewed Section 31 as the bastards that did the dirty work to keep Starfleet and the Federation “protected.” Like “Eff your morals and ethics. If diplomacy ain’t working, we’ll do what needs to be done to keep our side successful. AND we’ll do it ‘quietly,’ so none are the wiser.” Which is the exact opposite of what this trailer is trying to promote. Quote
Dynaman Posted July 28 Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Mog said: Like “Eff your morals and ethics. If diplomacy ain’t working, we’ll do what needs to be done to keep our side successful. AND we’ll do it ‘quietly,’ so none are the wiser.” Which is the exact opposite of what this trailer is trying to promote. Section 31 has been like that since it was first brought up. The supposed secret that EVERYONE knows all about. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted July 28 Posted July 28 2 hours ago, Mog said: Meh, always viewed Section 31 as the bastards that did the dirty work to keep Starfleet and the Federation “protected.” Like “Eff your morals and ethics. If diplomacy ain’t working, we’ll do what needs to be done to keep our side successful. AND we’ll do it ‘quietly,’ so none are the wiser.” 1 hour ago, Dynaman said: Section 31 has been like that since it was first brought up. The supposed secret that EVERYONE knows all about. That's certainly how Sloane presented the organization when it made its debut in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season 6's "Inquisition". Of course, that didn't really last much past their first appearance as by Season 7's "Inter Enim Arma Silent Leges" they had effectively grabbed the villain ball with both hands and transitioned from "so secret even the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order don't know about them" to being an open secret protected only by the most ridiculous arbitrary skepticism. Discovery just made it a million times worse by having them walking around openly on starships with special Starfleet badges indicating their affiliation openly. That series also screwed them up worse by making them more or less indistinguishable from Starfleet Intelligence, borrowing large chunks of plot from the much (and deservedly) maligned DS9 relaunch novel series's Control mini-arc, and turning them into little more than Starfleet's Murder Inc. 2 hours ago, Mog said: Which is the exact opposite of what this trailer is trying to promote. Yup. Even the novels, awful as the are, did a better job of depicting Section 31 as a covert organization. This is like off-brand James Bond, but with a really kitschy sci-fi aesthetic slapped on that manages to look hilariously cheap despite the no doubt ridiculously huge budget. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 20 Posted October 20 This is going to bomb so hard that it's going to cross the line twice from funny to not funny to actually pretty hilarious. It really is nice of Paramount+ to continue setting millions of dollars on fire for no gain other than helping Michelle Yeoh join that select community of actors and actresses who have both an Academy Award and a Golden Raspberry. Nicer still of them to give it a 2025 release date so it won't contest Lionsgate's Borderlands for the title of worst sci-fi film for 2024. Section 31 is the unasked-for spinoff to Star Trek's all-time lowest-rated and least succesful series starring one of its most loathed characters in-story and out. Nothing about that is a recipe for success. You'd almost suspect Paramount+ is Springtime for Hitler-ing this. Quote
Dynaman Posted October 21 Posted October 21 7 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: You'd almost suspect Paramount+ is Springtime for Hitler-ing this. Paramount would love that, Springtime for Hitler being an unexpected smash hit... But I really don't see that fate for THIS show. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 21 Posted October 21 6 minutes ago, Dynaman said: Paramount would love that, Springtime for Hitler being an unexpected smash hit... But I really don't see that fate for THIS show. I was thinking more the intended outcome... flying it into the ground deliberately in order to run off with the investors money. 🤣 Quote
Dynaman Posted October 22 Posted October 22 On 10/20/2024 at 8:22 PM, Seto Kaiba said: I was thinking more the intended outcome... flying it into the ground deliberately in order to run off with the investors money. 🤣 I wonder how many little old ladies they tried to con... Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted December 7 Posted December 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Old_Nash_II said: Nice Star Trek Rebels XD Wow. I mean, I was expecting Star Trek: Section 31 to look like ass and have aggressively bad writing because it's Kurtzman's pet project and a hilariously ill-advised spinoff of the franchise's all-time worst rated series (Discovery) starring its most hated character. Am I crazy, or does nothing about that sound like a good idea? I want to see this, but only so I can compare it to the Borderlands film in terms of "What the actual f*** were they thinking?" Star Trek: Springtime for Space Hitler's definitely going to be a cringeworthy exercise and another ungentle reminder that Discovery was a mistake. Paramount's hemorraging money and its share price is down over 70% across the last five years. The company is desperate to sell out or merge with another so someone else can take the helm... and this is what they're sinking money into? 🤣 Edited December 7 by Seto Kaiba Quote
JB0 Posted December 7 Posted December 7 1 minute ago, Seto Kaiba said: Paramount's hemorraging money and its share price is down over 70% across the last five years. The company is desperate to sell out or merge with another so someone else can take the helm... and this is what they're sinking money into? 🤣 Well, if they knew what to sink money into, they wouldn't be having those problems. Quote
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