Thom Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 Whether or not CLU's plan would have worked depends a lot on 'hand-wavism.' A lot of sci-fi works best with a certain level of suspension of belief, esp since that in movies reality/physics generally bend to the will of the story. It's been a decade since I saw it last, but I think I recall that there was some fear that Quoora would not survive the transition to the real world, but then we see her on the back of Sam's bike, enjoying the sunrise just before the credits role. For me, that lends some credence that it was possible for the rest to happen also. It's the fiction part of sci-fi.😉 Quote
Dynaman Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Logic goes completely out the window in the world of Tron. At best it is allegory. Quote
mechaninac Posted March 2 Posted March 2 TRON is far more techno-fantasy than it is science-fiction. Abandon all logic ye who enter here. Quote
Bolt Posted March 2 Posted March 2 10 hours ago, Raikkonen said: They better be riding Ducatis or Aprilias!!! Agreed. Quote
TangledThorns Posted March 3 Posted March 3 14 hours ago, mechaninac said: TRON is far more techno-fantasy than it is science-fiction. Abandon all logic ye who enter here. Hersey!! But yes, that rule applies to almost all fiction. Quote
mechaninac Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 hours ago, TangledThorns said: Hersey!! But yes, that rule applies to almost all fiction. Heresy? Dang it, I was aiming for unadulterated blasphemy... Quote
Raikkonen Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) And... I've checked out. While only a few details about the TRON: Ares story have emerged, the official synopsis states "TRON: Ares follows a highly sophisticated Program, Ares, who is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking humankind’s first encounter with A.I. beings." 🤬 - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. - The new film will star Jared Leto and an ensemble cast, potentially exploring the interaction of AI with humans outside of The Grid. 🤬 They've totally missed the plot that the Grid is Tron, and Tron is the Grid. Edited March 6 by Raikkonen Quote
Thom Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 Yes, it's just set in the Tron universe. That was one of the drawbacks of Legacy, as there was far too little of Tron, though I rewatched it today and, except for the de-aging, it holds up well enough. Looking back, I think they should have spent their money on de-aging Boxleiter in order to show more of Tron rather than having two versions of Flynn, but that's water spilled ten years ago. Plus, the Tron movies should be about (Tron of course!) being on the Grid. AI's done in the real world have been done before, and really hold little interest for me. So, yeah, so far less reason to watch this. Quote
pengbuzz Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thom said: Yes, it's just set in the Tron universe. That was one of the drawbacks of Legacy, as there was far too little of Tron, though I rewatched it today and, except for the de-aging, it holds up well enough. Looking back, I think they should have spent their money on de-aging Boxleiter in order to show more of Tron rather than having two versions of Flynn, but that's water spilled ten years ago. Plus, the Tron movies should be about (Tron of course!) being on the Grid. AI's done in the real world have been done before, and really hold little interest for me. So, yeah, so far less reason to watch this. Hopefully they'll revise the story more, although I don't have any confidence in Disney at this point. If they want the real world and the grid, they should do a story where the grid is out of control and threatening to consume the real world. Edited March 6 by pengbuzz Quote
Bolt Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 3/6/2024 at 12:50 PM, Raikkonen said: And... I've checked out. While only a few details about the TRON: Ares story have emerged, the official synopsis states "TRON: Ares follows a highly sophisticated Program, Ares, who is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking humankind’s first encounter with A.I. beings." 🤬 - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. - The new film will star Jared Leto and an ensemble cast, potentially exploring the interaction of AI with humans outside of The Grid. 🤬 They've totally missed the plot that the Grid is Tron, and Tron is the Grid. This sounds less interesting.. Quote
mikeszekely Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 3/6/2024 at 3:50 PM, Raikkonen said: - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. Wait, who wants to watch a Tron movie that's not set in The Grid? The Grid is what makes Tron interesting. On 3/6/2024 at 3:50 PM, Raikkonen said: - The new film will star Jared Leto 🤮 Quote
sh9000 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Time flies. I can't believe Tron: Legacy came out in 2010. Quote
mikeszekely Posted April 30 Posted April 30 2 hours ago, sh9000 said: Jeff Bridges confirms his return. That's probably the only good news I've heard since this film was announced. Quote
Duke Togo Posted April 30 Posted April 30 6 hours ago, mikeszekely said: That's probably the only good news I've heard since this film was announced. It definitely moves the needle on my opinion of it. Quote
TangledThorns Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I'd love to see a remaster of the Legacy where they update de-aged Jeff Bridges. Quote
Thom Posted April 30 Author Posted April 30 15 minutes ago, TangledThorns said: I'd love to see a remaster of the Legacy where they update de-aged Jeff Bridges. Tru dis! And I guess Flynn did not die on the grid..? Quote
Hikuro Posted May 3 Posted May 3 I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered. Quote
TangledThorns Posted May 3 Posted May 3 10 hours ago, Hikuro said: I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered. There was a back-up of Flynn on floppy disk. Quote
mechaninac Posted May 3 Posted May 3 9 minutes ago, TangledThorns said: There was a back-up of Flynn on floppy disk. On one of the 5.25" ones, at that... Quote
Old_Nash_II Posted May 3 Posted May 3 15 minutes ago, mechaninac said: On one of the 5.25" ones, at that... Like.Optimus.Prime XD Quote
mechaninac Posted May 5 Posted May 5 9 hours ago, Hikuro said: Guess it'd been to soon for a zip disk huh? At least two decades too soon. Oh boy, are we dating ourselves or what?... Quote
pengbuzz Posted May 5 Posted May 5 On 5/2/2024 at 9:07 PM, Hikuro said: I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered. It makes me wonder, with his being a user and all, if he knew things that would allow him to survive where programs would not on the grid? Quote
Raikkonen Posted June 1 Posted June 1 Spoiler pic... Spoiler So... the programs can bleed in our world... Quote
Thom Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 7 hours ago, Raikkonen said: Spoiler pic... Hide contents So... the programs can bleed in our world... Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? Quote
Raikkonen Posted June 1 Posted June 1 40 minutes ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? Only 2 characters shown so far. Leto and Bridges. Quote
Old_Nash_II Posted June 1 Posted June 1 8 hours ago, Raikkonen said: Spoiler pic... Hide contents So... the programs can bleed in our world... Messiah of Grid XD Quote
Big s Posted June 1 Posted June 1 2 hours ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? That’s because the are in the real world where things get hairy and kinda messy Quote
Bolt Posted June 1 Posted June 1 4 hours ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? Lol. I just thought the same thing Quote
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