Bandai 1/60 DX Chogokin Macross 7 Fire Valkyrie

[Graham]

1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said:

with this fire valk, it gives M7 fans the hope that Bandai will make the entire fire bomber DX lineup. 

....or they can wait till arcadia does the 5000 and steal the design

 

 

I'm a huge Macross 7 fan, have probably watched it a dozen times since it was first released in 94. I've bought all the toys, CDs art books etc.

However, stangely I've never had a burning desire for toys of the VF-11MAXL and VF-17T Kai.

I've always been far more interested in owning toys of the VF-17D/S, VF-19F/S, VF-11C/D/Full Armor, VF-22S, Fz-109F/A, 

[Graham]

2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

I frankly do not trust anyone to even try and make the MAXL.  I don't think anyone has ever been able to justify the investment for a design that funky, no matter how long it's gone without an actual transforming toy of any type.

I think our best bet for a good looking VF-11MAXL is in Bandai's 1/100 scale, HG Shortcut Change line.

[davidwhangchoi]

3 hours ago, Graham said:

I'm a huge Macross 7 fan, have probably watched it a dozen times since it was first released in 94. I've bought all the toys, CDs art books etc.

However, stangely I've never had a burning desire for toys of the VF-11MAXL and VF-17T Kai.

I've always been far more interested in owning toys of the VF-17D/S, VF-19F/S, VF-11C/D/Full Armor, VF-22S, Fz-109F/A, 

Since Bandai has a rep of releasing repaints of the same mold, we know to expect at least a DX VF-22S as well as docker's 19 after the Kai.

I thought the yamato VF-17D was the most expensive and nicest looking toy for a while. I'm not sure if Bandai will best it.

A Bandai vf-11b or c  would be nice to see. 

I do hope Bandai does commit to making the M7 line robust now they're done releasing the Macross plus toys.   

[no3Ljm]

1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said:

Since Bandai has a rep of releasing repaints of the same mold, we know to expect at least a DX VF-22S as well as docker's 19 after the Kai.

I hope this is true because up until now we haven't seen Max's VF-1S, Hikaru's VF-1A, Aisha's VF-19, Mei's VF-27 and Roid's Sv-262. 

[Graham]

For the DX VF-19 Fire Valk and follow on DX VF-19F/S, there are 2 things I hope:

1) Bandai don't use the stupid folding front landing gear from the DX VF-19 Advance / DX YF-19. Always hated that as it's fiddly to get in and out and the hinge joint gets loose after a while and collapses easily.

2) for a potential future VF-19F/S I hope Bandai manage to make the GU-15 Gunpod front end the correct size like Yamato and Arcadia did, rather than using the skinny front end from the DX VF-19 Advance / DX YF-19, which is one of my pet peeves as it never looks right to me.

[PointBlankSniper]

5 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

Ok, not familiar with those bots, but what sort of product line were they released in?  Something DX level, or more like a cheap and nearly disposable transformer?

They were part of the Super Minipla line. Technically, those are candy toys, which are more akin to kinder surprise at face value. But unlike those litteral plastic wastes, SMP is positioned as an animation accurate adult nostalgia model kit collector line, with a single piece of gum or candy to pretend there is any candy element to it at all. The franchises they make kits for in that line are forgotten unobtainium. They reach far back to forgotten or unheard of mechas, even more obscure than the likes of scrapped voltrons, and sentai combiner planes before megazords were a thing. These things are scalped as badly as DX.

The fembots I refered to in particular are from the GaoGaiGar OVA. They never got toys like the rest of the bots from the show, and they are probably far less known, since the OVA they debuted in was a much later produced mini sequel. They were released as a P-Bandai set to really squeeze those wallets of the few fans. Bandai knows how to do that obscure low volume stuff if they actually feel like it.

[davidwhangchoi]

9 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

I hope this is true because up until now we haven't seen Max's VF-1S, Hikaru's VF-1A, Aisha's VF-19, Mei's VF-27 and Roid's Sv-262. 

Bandai reprinted Hikaru Vf-1J for the 100th time as the Metal Build Exia. Max 1s DYRL will come once they decide how to distinguish Roy's Dyrl from the TV version. I think they already started with the TV only hands and missiles packaging with the recent hikaru 1J. i would expect a DYRL package with micro missiles and dryl hands will follow.

Bandai's out for money and Hikaru DYRL 1A was the worst seller. I would guess it's lottery P-Bandai.  i doubt there's interest with Roid's SV-262 but then again bandai did a Bogue variant so Roid may be realistic.   Aisha 19 or Mei 27, Bandai will not be doing any video game character based valk soon esp since Macross is niche market and they will first pump out all the mainline anime variants first.  

DX M7 lineup: the easiest would be Bandai to make money of the yf-21 mold, I could see a VF-22S and the 19S/F since the KAI is displayed.    

[aurance]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:11 PM, Mommar said:

There is zero reason to ever support high speed mode on the 19.  It's just structurally unsound, and frakking stupid looking too.

I agree. It just ruins -19 toys IMO for not a lot of benefit.

[MKT]

On contrary I do like how high-speed mode looks on the YF-19 haha.

It gives a birds of prey look diving down in hunt, plus visually jives better aero-wise with increased speed.

[Duymon]

I could care less about highspeed mode I care more about if Bandai manages to overengineer and screw up the VF-19 when they've already got a hi-metal R T-rex to work up from

[Mommar]

7 hours ago, Duymon said:

I could care less about highspeed mode I care more about if Bandai manages to overengineer and screw up the VF-19 when they've already got a hi-metal R T-rex to work up from

In reality that T-Rex only needs a few tweaks to be perfect.

[Lolicon]

Expect lots of stripes and FIRE BOMBER plastered over the wings in huge letters.

[Duymon]

1 hour ago, Lolicon said:

Expect lots of stripes and FIRE BOMBER plastered over the wings in huge letters.

don't forget to have one backwards / mirrored because it "looks better" (looking at you 001 tailfins)

[David Hingtgen]

4 minutes ago, Duymon said:

don't forget to have one backwards / mirrored because it "looks better" (looking at you 001 tailfins)

Bomber Fire!   Includes lyrics to their #1 hit, "Planetin' on the Dance Planet!"

[Graham]

On 11/24/2024 at 8:33 AM, David Hingtgen said:

Bomber Fire!   Includes lyrics to their #1 hit, "Planetin' on the Dance Planet!"

Hey, don't give Bandai ideas! 😆

[Reïvaj]

Just as I would've liked to see hardpoints under the wings in the new version of Bandai's YF-21, even though I know it might not be canonical, and in the VF-25 revivals — perhaps even more desirably here since they lack internal missile storage — now I'm surprised to see hardpoints on the VF-19 Kai prototype. Here, too, it's not canonical; in fact, it's obvious that Basara would never use them. But the possibility of customizing my toys is always welcome in my book.

[valhary]

I think the wings hardpoints are to future releases 19s and 19f variants

[Reïvaj]

I hope so, but those have different wings anyway. Maybe for the 19P?

[PointBlankSniper]

I think it's just a standard they adopted to all their designs after Frontier. Before that, only the 171 had accessories that needed it. The 21's design broke every design rule that had going, but it might just be following canon. It might be fixable or maybe even planned that the 22 can have hard points by having them molded into extentions on the removable ailerons.

If not for cheaping out and recycling molds, I think the 25, 27, and 29, would probably get them too. IDK about the former two, but it's extra frustrating looking at my Max Durandal and seeing how they originally went to the trouble of sculpting in those shallow fake hardpoints on the 29, but not making them deep enough to be functional.

Then again, there's almost nothing to use them with if you don't have some specific valks or 3D print them. Sometimes, it feels like Bandai is run by psychos lol

Edited November 28 by PointBlankSniper

[Duymon]

i just hope the fire valk is popular enough for Bandai to go ahead with more Mac7 stuff like the VF-19 emerald, VF-19P and maybe the VF-11 and VF-17, though I'm scared of a Bandai VF-17 because if it's any good I'd want to buy multiples (looks at 18 DX VF-171's)

[Graham]

1 hour ago, Duymon said:

i just hope the fire valk is popular enough for Bandai to go ahead with more Mac7 stuff like the VF-19 emerald, VF-19P and maybe the VF-11 and VF-17, though I'm scared of a Bandai VF-17 because if it's any good I'd want to buy multiples (looks at 18 DX VF-171's)

Same, I would buy a lot of VF-17D/S as it's my favorite VF.

[Graham]

14 hours ago, Reïvaj said:

Just as I would've liked to see hardpoints under the wings in the new version of Bandai's YF-21, even though I know it might not be canonical, and in the VF-25 revivals — perhaps even more desirably here since they lack internal missile storage — now I'm surprised to see hardpoints on the VF-19 Kai prototype. Here, too, it's not canonical; in fact, it's obvious that Basara would never use them. But the possibility of customizing my toys is always welcome in my book.

I wonder if they have just recycled the tooling from the YF-19 DX wings. Need to compare the panel lines in this pic against the toy.

[PointBlankSniper]

1 hour ago, Graham said:

I wonder if they have just recycled the tooling from the YF-19 DX wings. Need to compare the panel lines in this pic against the toy.

The YF-19's wings aren't the same shape as the Kai.

[Mommar]

On 11/28/2024 at 5:20 PM, Duymon said:

i just hope the fire valk is popular enough for Bandai to go ahead with more Mac7 stuff like the VF-19 emerald, VF-19P and maybe the VF-11 and VF-17, though I'm scared of a Bandai VF-17 because if it's any good I'd want to buy multiples (looks at 18 DX VF-171's)

Given the 17 is even more Anime magical than the 21 I feel like Bandai would completely botch that one.

[David Hingtgen]

On 11/28/2024 at 9:56 PM, PointBlankSniper said:

The YF-19's wings aren't the same shape as the Kai.

Yes, but Bandai likely wouldn't be making Basara's wings from scratch, they'd take the CAD model they already have of Isamu's, and adjust it as needed---and that could easily include "forgetting" to remove Isamu's hardpoints.   Anything they can reuse/modify from existing parts, they will.  I imagine the landing gear etc will be identical.   

[Lolicon]

Reuse, recycle, revival! 

[PointBlankSniper]

4 hours ago, David Hingtgen said:

Yes, but Bandai likely wouldn't be making Basara's wings from scratch, they'd take the CAD model they already have of Isamu's, and adjust it as needed---and that could easily include "forgetting" to remove Isamu's hardpoints.   Anything they can reuse/modify from existing parts, they will.  I imagine the landing gear etc will be identical.   

I don't deny that. I'm the one that pointed out the likely reason behind the hardpoints remaining on almost every release above after all. But that isn't quite the same topic.

Here, I'm just addressing the idea of reusing the tooling specifically. I don't imagine they would literally grind out the injection molds for the kai, and then weld it back if they want to do another run of the YF.

[Mommar]

I'm cool with the potential I can have underwing ordinance on my S/F/P if they happen.

[Bub]

On 12/2/2024 at 11:27 AM, Lolicon said:

Reuse, recycle, revival! 

Respect