Thom Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Came across this on the Twit, with added CG. Very cool! Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 That's pretty damned amazing! Thanks for sharing. (Part of me wants to joke about it not being the same without spending ten minutes flying in circles around the ship like in TMP, but I have to admit that acceleration at the end does make the objection to impulse in spacedock look a LOT more reasonable.) Quote
Dobber Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 I…..I REALLY liked that…A LOT. I loved how they clearly Demonstrated how fast impulse power is, may just a tad much as it was only 1/4 but still fantastic! Chris Quote
Thom Posted October 30, 2022 Author Posted October 30, 2022 I think it could have used a little more RCS, but that was great seeing that finally being demonstrated. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Dobber said: I loved how they clearly Demonstrated how fast impulse power is, may just a tad much as it was only 1/4 but still fantastic! So... I did some digging, and the few official and semi-official remarks we've had about how fast impulse really is are unreasonably fast. Full impulse is said to be 0.25C, or 74,948km/sec. One quarter impulse power would be 0.0625C or 18,737km/sec. The closest I can find to official info for spacedock says it's 4.6km at maximum horizontal cross section. If the above is all correct, they might have UNDERSOLD it. The Enterprise would cover the ~2km separating it from the spacedock door in one ten-thousandth of a second at that speed. No fricking wonder regulations say thrusters only! Quote
TehPW Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 There are several very talented CG artists who have to done either fan clips or edits of clips... Quantum Designs AZ (13) Mutara: The Chase - YouTube (13) L-374 - YouTube Delimited Productions (13) #13 "Blind as a Bat" - Mutara Battle Finale (Star Trek Wrath of Khan CG REDUX) - YouTube JTVFX Then you got this oldy... (13) Star Trek Continues E08 "Still Treads the Shadow" - YouTube Not there are some flaws (some so so tiny to be effectly non-existent) and there is one clip i cannot remember who did but was so excellent with view management... all all these gets Chocholate Chip Cookies... Quote
Shawn Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 that was pretty freaking cool thanks for sharing! Quote
Dobber Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: So... I did some digging, and the few official and semi-official remarks we've had about how fast impulse really is are unreasonably fast. Full impulse is said to be 0.25C, or 74,948km/sec. One quarter impulse power would be 0.0625C or 18,737km/sec. The closest I can find to official info for spacedock says it's 4.6km at maximum horizontal cross section. If the above is all correct, they might have UNDERSOLD it. The Enterprise would cover the ~2km separating it from the spacedock door in one ten-thousandth of a second at that speed. No fricking wonder regulations say thrusters only! Fair point 😮 so with that said we have to give it some time to accelerate from stationary/station keeping to 1/4 impulse. Maybe that covers the discrepancy. Chris Quote
pengbuzz Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: That's pretty damned amazing! Thanks for sharing. (Part of me wants to joke about it not being the same without spending ten minutes flying in circles around the ship like in TMP, but I have to admit that acceleration at the end does make the objection to impulse in spacedock look a LOT more reasonable.) I liked this! lol I also agree about the end acceleration thing! One thing they could have added: a guy in a workbee using a gigantic scrubber to clean the skidmarks off the spacedock floor from where the Enterprise peeled out!! On a more serious note: someone should do one where they miscalculate and hit the inside of the wall just next to the dock door. Edited October 30, 2022 by pengbuzz Quote
Thom Posted October 30, 2022 Author Posted October 30, 2022 8 hours ago, pengbuzz said: I liked this! lol I also agree about the end acceleration thing! One thing they could have added: a guy in a workbee using a gigantic scrubber to clean the skidmarks off the spacedock floor from where the Enterprise peeled out!! On a more serious note: someone should do one where they miscalculate and hit the inside of the wall just next to the dock door. I think that would be like bug-splatter on a windshield!🤯 Quote
Dobber Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) So I just remembered that TMP actually established this already…what impulse speed is like. When Enterprise leaves dry dock it is using thrusters. Once she is departed the dock and is leaving orbit, Scotty informs the bridge that impulse power is available and Kirk tells Sulu to engage impulse engines ahead warp factor .5. The engines light up and Kirk orders departure view and Earth is falling into the distance very quickly. At 2:20 TWoK and TSfS started using that ahead 1/4 impulse power as an initial speed and it being really slow. TUC kind of changed it back were it should be. I love this redux. I too want to see more. Chris Edited October 30, 2022 by Dobber Quote
Dynaman Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Just think, even at 1/4 light speed you can make it to the nearest star in under 12 years. So far the furthest we have sent something is to the edge of the solar system. Quote
azrael Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Best comment I've ever read about that scene was "Leaving spacedock at 1/4 impulse is the equivalent of burning rubber as you leave your parent's driveway to begrudgingly run their errands." Quote
Thom Posted October 31, 2022 Author Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Dynaman said: Just think, even at 1/4 light speed you can make it to the nearest star in under 12 years. So far the furthest we have sent something is to the edge of the solar system. Actually, the first Voyager is past the heliosphere. Interstellar traveler baby! Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Thom said: Actually, the first Voyager is past the heliosphere. Interstellar traveler baby! They've moved the bar on that one a few times... https://xkcd.com/1189/ Quote
sh9000 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Thanks for that video @Thom. Pretty cool. Quote
Mommar Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 The volumnetric fog in Blind as a Bat looked spectacular. Didn't care for the phaser animation though. Quote
Dynaman Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 20 hours ago, Thom said: Actually, the first Voyager is past the heliosphere. Interstellar traveler baby! That counts as just at the edge... Quote
TehPW Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Mommar said: The volumnetric fog in Blind as a Bat looked spectacular. Didn't care for the phaser animation though. Yeah, that might be the one lament i have about the several artists i posted links about: Some aspects are specular (and some aspects pedestrian). I'm sturggling to find the one video that includes changes in view angle during the pre-nebula battle (like the Reliant was about 45 degrees above the Ent when it appears on their view screen). Its things like that, that made the trek Otaku in me to scream in glee. The L-374 clip i loved save how the Constellation flees by rotating so mechanically and listless... Quote
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