DX Chogokin VF-25 Revival Ver (WWM Releases)

[sh9000]

I think I'll wait for the Hasegawa 1/72 Q-Rau Milia to be available at the end of this month to ship it with the DX VF-25G Revival and other items from AE.

[Sandman]

On 11/13/2023 at 4:19 PM, Mommar said:

BBTS just delivered my 25G, can confirm every head cannon is bent.

Even the hard  one?

[Chaos]

Y'all got bad luck, I guess

[Mommar]

On 11/14/2023 at 5:31 PM, Sandman said:

Even the hard  one?

Soft one is royally bent.  Hard one is marginal but still off..

[Lolicon]

I guess that's an improvement over having a spate of broken head lasers *coughYF-19cough*

[Zeliard]

I was quite hesitant to get another 25, since the loose shoulder and hip joints severely affect the playability and articulations, rendering it only aesthetically presentable in fighter mode. 

[Sanity is Optional]

10 hours ago, Lolicon said:

I guess that's an improvement over having a spate of broken head lasers *coughYF-19cough*

FWIW, I got 4, and every one had an intact head laser.

[treatment]

Has these VF-25 Revivals been quite a dud to you guys?

I've recently reopened my VF-25 Alto Revival for a simple scale picture a couple of weeks ago.

Prior to that, it's been boxed after taking some pictures during delivery to me.

It's not quite playable nor satisfying to me.

The issue I've experienced with it is...

 

Extreme joints looseness.

Very annoyingly so, as I've only really actually handled this item maybe twice or so after delivery for picture taking.

It's practically unused! 

This looseness should not happen at all!  At least, not after just two minor handlings.

Specifically, hips and shoulder joints looseness.

It keeps doing splits easily when in Battroid mode.  

I have  to really do some effort on positioning to keep it just standing steady.

The arms just flail easily, too. No more friction at all, unlike the first time out of the box.

I've tightened up the screws, but doesn't seem to help at all.

It's been quite disappointing, to say the least. 

Complete contrast to my YF-29 Max, which is still quite satisfyingly tight everywhere and very enjoyable to handle.

As such, I've seen/read some even more awful VF-25 Michael looseness and stuff. 

Good thing I didn't bother to get that variant.

 

 

[Angesdad]

55 minutes ago, treatment said:

Has these VF-25 Revivals been quite a dud to you guys?

I've recently reopened my VF-25 Alto Revival for a simple scale picture a couple of weeks ago.

Prior to that, it's been boxed after taking some pictures during delivery to me.

It's not quite playable nor satisfying to me.

The issue I've experienced with it is...

 

Extreme joints looseness.

Very annoyingly so, as I've only really actually handled this item maybe twice or so after delivery for picture taking.

It's practically unused! 

This looseness should not happen at all!  At least, not after just two minor handlings.

Specifically, hips and shoulder joints looseness.

It keeps doing splits easily when in Battroid mode.  

I have  to really do some effort on positioning to keep it just standing steady.

The arms just flail easily, too. No more friction at all, unlike the first time out of the box.

I've tightened up the screws, but doesn't seem to help at all.

It's been quite disappointing, to say the least. 

Complete contrast to my YF-29 Max, which is still quite satisfyingly tight everywhere and very enjoyable to handle.

As such, I've seen/read some even more awful VF-25 Michael looseness and stuff. 

Good thing I didn't bother to get that variant.

 

 

Yikes, that ain't good. Haven't bothered to open up my revivals yet but now I am curious to see how bad it is.

[Chronocidal]

I think this is just the typical Bandai quality lottery at this point.  Mine didn't have these issues that I saw.. I got two of the Alto, and one was loose, one wasn't.  

Also got two of the Max YF-29s, and one was a quality control disaster (mis-aligned holes and parts, incredibly sloppy transformation and articulation), while the second was pretty much perfect.

The only thing consistent is how inconsistent they are.  

[MKT]

What a shame, that the Revivals aren't really all that they were made out to be. At this point, we can probably discount the so-called engineering improvements, and just go in with expectations that it has matte finishing & some extra tampo. 

[PointBlankSniper]

I am simultaneously wishful that the long pause from releasing the rest of the 25s means they got enough flak and time to fix things, like the droopy arm guns on the AX Hayate reissue, while also not actually counting on them to ever finish the gang, because that's how bandai rolls...

When the time comes that the latter is evidently the case, I might just cave and try to grab one of these despite the sad joints. Hopefully those fuselage hinges and gun pods don't auto crack over time, like how all the old ones in the scary unopened mandarake listings seem to suggest...

[treatment]

At this point, I just hope my Alto-Revival does not yellow on its own while boxed and stored up in my attic.

At least, just to avoid being added/contributed into the  You're Yellow! thread...

 

 

[Chronocidal]

I don't really care about Luca's enough to want another, but I hope they at least address the screaming elephant in the franchise and finally release an armored Ozma pack, just to satisfy the demand that has gone completely unanswered for over a decade.

[jenius]

1 hour ago, Chronocidal said:

I don't really care about Luca's enough to want another, but I hope they at least address the screaming elephant in the franchise and finally release an armored Ozma pack, just to satisfy the demand that has gone completely unanswered for over a decade.

100%! I don't get Bandai at all. Ozma should have been before Michael and why do I own an Angelbirds DX instead of that scheme in HMR? Why do I have Hayao's DYRL 1A and Max's TV 1A but none of the other squad members in DX? They're totally nuts.

[Chronocidal]

Michael's.. I kind of get.  Same super parts as Alto, easier to streamline the production.  I wouldn't even be surprised if they do a Luca first as well.

Ozma's is going to take a unique production to make all those parts though, so it'll probably be later.  Maybe we'll even get an Alto armor set while they're at it.

(And I still want that red Klan VF-25S )

Edited January 24 by Chronocidal

[PointBlankSniper]

Bandai with all their departments definitely dont make a lick of sense. They have so many specific longstanding gundam designs with massive fan demand that they won't make kits of in the desired scale. They go as far as prototyping them and then cancelling them for absolutely no reason. Best they do is redesign existing kits. Or they do things like put most wanted designs into low volume p-bandai releases, and resort to endless reissues to keep with demand, except nobody wants to pay for scalpers to buy them. Then they go on making new IP that nobody wants, and spend all their marketing on those, despite bad reception. Bandai pretty much birthed the premium third party scene by creating masses of diehard fans of specific designs with no intention to merchandise anything. The those companies just showed up to fill the demand, and now have evolved into making higher quality collector toys than bandai.

You know even their gaming division is as also a mess when tekken's director goes on stage at tokyo game show to call them out on the lack of marketing support for all their other smaller game IPs that needs the marketing push overseas. They axe beloved gundam games that people want ported, while porting the ones nobody asked for. Then throw all their money at metaverse just to be laughed at.

Their nonsensical macross release are just a tiny fraction of their insanity. Everything they do is induces head scratching, and it's their fault when i bald.

1 hour ago, Chronocidal said:

(And I still want that red Klan VF-25S )

I can't even find an image of it without being flooded with pics of the aoshima's vfg kit these days. I don't think I've ever even seen it in battroid form lol

[Chronocidal]

Just saw this pop up on my Amazon page, probably brings it closer in line with the import price, if not even lower.

https://www.amazon.com/TAMASHII-NATIONS-Frontier-Valkyrie-Chogokin/dp/B0BGR4Z27D/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_bmx_gp_oa5mc7io_d_sccl_1_3/145-2860478-7794866?pd_rd_w=eoaM7&content-id=amzn1.sym.cb7b1ced-6cd6-4a13-a63d-cb1faaf99eb2&pf_rd_p=cb7b1ced-6cd6-4a13-a63d-cb1faaf99eb2&pf_rd_r=9R504FQXR1W7BYW90VV3&pd_rd_wg=3rUWp&pd_rd_r=749463a1-3c6a-466c-a50f-27b34ab31da5&pd_rd_i=B0BGR4Z27D&psc=1

 

[treatment]

5 minutes ago, Chronocidal said:

Just saw this pop up on my Amazon page, probably brings it closer in line with the import price, if not even lower.

https://www.amazon.com/TAMASHII-NATIONS-Frontier-Valkyrie-Chogokin/dp/B0BGR4Z27D/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_bmx_gp_oa5mc7io_d_sccl_1_3/145-2860478-7794866?pd_rd_w=eoaM7&content-id=amzn1.sym.cb7b1ced-6cd6-4a13-a63d-cb1faaf99eb2&pf_rd_p=cb7b1ced-6cd6-4a13-a63d-cb1faaf99eb2&pf_rd_r=9R504FQXR1W7BYW90VV3&pd_rd_wg=3rUWp&pd_rd_r=749463a1-3c6a-466c-a50f-27b34ab31da5&pd_rd_i=B0BGR4Z27D&psc=1

 

 

we're browsing at the same time, lol!

 

Anyway, other current DX deals on amzn:

 

[MKT]

It's nice to have a minty fresh 25 in hand again.

Nothing much to say here, Fighter just feels exactly the same as the previous couple of WWM 25s. Bandai definitely re-furbished the mold when releasing these Revivals - everything seems to fit a tad tighter, with the front landing gear doors perhaps too closely toleranced in a sense it takes more effort to align them when closing. On other hand, the rear landing gears do not lock as tightly when gears down compared to the older Renewal.

Not sure why Bandai reverted to soft head lasers as default installed here, and although there's a spare hard laser, they should have just gone ahead to make both hard ones. 
 

 

[rsvictor1976]

Forgive me if this has been answered before, but is there a difference between the Revival version and the Renewal version? I bought a VF-25 Micheal a long time ago and it became a floppy mess and I swore I'd never buy another Frontier Chogokin but these Revival versions got me curious. I don't even know if I have the original or the Renewal version, is there a way to tell?

[no3Ljm]

1 hour ago, rsvictor1976 said:

Forgive me if this has been answered before, but is there a difference between the Revival version and the Renewal version? I bought a VF-25 Micheal a long time ago and it became a floppy mess and I swore I'd never buy another Frontier Chogokin but these Revival versions got me curious. I don't even know if I have the original or the Renewal version, is there a way to tell?

First thing that will stand out is Revival is matte finish. I don't have any of the Revival releases, but I believe the joints are probably tighter. As most new stuff do.

You can also check @jenius review to see what else is difference here:

 

[WhatBoutMyStar]

On 5/7/2024 at 11:56 AM, rsvictor1976 said:

Forgive me if this has been answered before, but is there a difference between the Revival version and the Renewal version? I bought a VF-25 Micheal a long time ago and it became a floppy mess and I swore I'd never buy another Frontier Chogokin but these Revival versions got me curious. I don't even know if I have the original or the Renewal version, is there a way to tell?

There are quite a bit of differences between the original and the renewal 25s, including the sculpt/proportions in battroid (the top of the legs/hips sit up much higher above the crotch area on the original). If it's in battroid, does your 25 have one locking tab or two metal locking clasps in the waist? If it's the latter, it's the renewal. The original was also prone to yellowing.

If you still have the box, the renewal 25G box should be white. The original 25G box was black.

Biggest visible difference with the revival v. the renewal is the matte finish. The revival 25F and 25G also come with the super parts bundled.

Edited May 9 by WhatBoutMyStar
correction

[rsvictor1976]

11 hours ago, WhatBoutMyStar said:

There are quite a bit of differences between the original and the renewal 25s, including the sculpt/proportions in battroid (the top of the legs/hips sit up much higher above the crotch area on the original). If it's in battroid, does your 25 have one locking tab or two metal locking clasps in the waist? If it's the latter, it's the renewal. The original was also prone to yellowing.

If you still have the box, the renewal 25G box should be white. The original 25G box was black.

Biggest visible difference with the revival v. the renewal is the matte finish. The renewal 25F and 25G also come with the super parts bundled.

Thanks for the info. It looks like I have the Renewal version. Based on the recent posts on this thread, is it safe to assume the Revival versions are also a floppy mess? 

[WhatBoutMyStar]

7 hours ago, rsvictor1976 said:

Thanks for the info. It looks like I have the Renewal version. Based on the recent posts on this thread, is it safe to assume the Revival versions are also a floppy mess? 

I don't have the Revivals. I have the Renewal Alto and Michael 25s and also a number of 29s that share similarities with the 25. The design is just prone to having the joints loosen over time. If tightening the screws in the shoulders and hips/legs, which are usually the problematic areas, don't work, then at least the good news is that those joints are pretty easily disassembled so you can access the socket and apply some joint tightener like Kiki's or floor polish. I believe there are posts in the Maintenance thread about disassembling the shoulders and hips if you search for them, as well as videos on youtube on it.

I also corrected my prior post to note that the Revival 25s (not the Renewals) are bundled with the super parts. Inadvertent mistake just typing and posting quickly.

[guyxxed]

My only experience with the Revivals is the Alto 25F, but overall I'm very happy with it.  I'll admit it came with a loose shoulder joint, but a few drops of Kiki's (without disassembling) fixed it immediately.  It's a beautiful toy and, as I'm a latecomer to collecting, I was grateful for the chance to pick this up in the matte finish and bundled with the Super parts.  Even from a US distributor, it was less than the historic prices I'd seen for used Renewals (they've since dropped a lot on the secondary market, but the US price was still competitive for a new unopened item) so I'm fully satisfied with it.

[Yugure0]

Finally!

 

[recon]

Hi guys. May i check for the VF-25 and YF-29 revival versions, is the matt finish spray painted on or it was molded in matt plastic? Thanks

[MKT]

9 minutes ago, recon said:

Hi guys. May i check for the VF-25 and YF-29 revival versions, is the matt finish spray painted on or it was molded in matt plastic? Thanks

Molded in matt plastic.

[recon]

1 minute ago, MKT said:

Molded in matt plastic.

Tks for the info shared. Will be picking up the VF-25F and VF-25S revival versions as a backup for my old renewal vers in case they discolored over time

[Duymon]

 

FYI You can nab the WWM Super VF-25G's for less than $200 shipped in the USA 

USA gundam store

20% off code : 61324

 

[Bolt]

Thanks for the heads up. That's a pretty good deal!

[MikeRoz]

Down to $154 before shipping and tax at USAGS.

[Sildani]

Cool! That code’s not working for me. 

[Reni]

39 minutes ago, Sildani said:

Cool! That code’s not working for me. 

Unfortunately, USAGSs summer 30% sale items change daily.  When @MikeRoz posted, the code was valid for the VF-25G.  Today, however that item is no longer on sale.

Edited July 1 by Reni