Andor (Star Wars: Andor) - Disney+

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

That's kind of the point, though.

She's taking advantage of two vices freely available at a wedding reception - excessive consumption of alcohol and uninhibited dancing - as a way to dissociate in a public setting so she won't have to immediately deal with the emotional toll from the events of the day.  Her dancing is clearly meant to show that she is emphatically NOT OK... something that other characters are also meant to notice (e.g. Perrin, who clearly notices she's in distress at the end of the episode).

I get the point they were trying to make, but they did it in the worst possible way 

[azrael]

On 4/26/2025 at 4:27 PM, Duke Togo said:

I disagree on Mon Mothma. We're seeing this character on a journey, and I believe in where they're taking her.

I'm going to agree with this.

10 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

It seems like Mon Mothma has finally hit the point where she can no longer avert her eyes from the fact that people are killing, and/or dying, for the cause.

I would say it's more like it finally caught up to her. She tried to avoid crossing into that world but, that world and her's were on a collision course the moment she helped the rebellion movement.

  

5 hours ago, Big s said:

I get the point they were trying to make, but they did it in the worst possible way 

I didn't see it that way. I saw someone screaming in angst that they now would have to kill people, even those they considered friends. At that moment, she's not OK, but that's now a luxury Mon can no longer afford.

[Big s]

1 hour ago, azrael said:

I didn't see it that way. I saw someone screaming in angst that they now would have to kill people, even those they considered friends. At that moment, she's not OK, but that's now a luxury Mon can no longer afford.

I meant including a 90’s rave in Star Wars

[Seto Kaiba]

1 hour ago, azrael said:

I would say it's more like it finally caught up to her. She tried to avoid crossing into that world but, that world and her's were on a collision course the moment she helped the rebellion movement.

My read of her character from Andor and other related titles is that it's at least as much other characters like Luthen made a concerted effort to keep her out of that world for their own sanity as much as hers.  She wasn't prepared to deal with the mental or emotional toll of having people kill and die on her orders, and they didn't have the time or energy to be entertaining her protests about every decision and consequence involved in running an armed insurgency.  

We saw a bit of this in season one when Mon was deeply upset at the prospect of a post-Aldhani Imperial crackdown causing widespread suffering, and Luthen having to rather coldly explain that that was a good thing for the cause and run the op without her knowledge or involvement.

For Mon Mothma, Tay Kolma is the moment the war finally came home and became real.

 

1 hour ago, azrael said:

I didn't see it that way. I saw someone screaming in angst that they now would have to kill people, even those they considered friends. At that moment, she's not OK, but that's now a luxury Mon can no longer afford.

Yup.

 

26 minutes ago, Big s said:

I meant including a 90’s rave in Star Wars

It's A Long Time Ago... in a Galaxy Far Far Away.  Musical tastes can be different.

Mind you, it's not a rave either.  It's a bunch of upper class rich folks drunk dancing to popular music at the reception after a three day long stifling traditional wedding ceremony.  

It's not meant to be a coordinated Bollywood musical number.  From what I've read, the song playing at the reception is a remix of the same (presumably popular) song playing on that resort planet Cassian hides out on after Aldhani.

Edited 2 hours ago by Seto Kaiba

[azrael]

This is music from an human-looking but alien species from a long time ago from a galaxy far, far away. 🤷‍♂️

Another subtlety in the dance is Mon wasn't smiling (she was actually emotionless, just lost in the moment) and she was out of sync with the rest of the guests on the dance floor.