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On 7/7/2022 at 10:45 PM, sh9000 said:

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https://www.startrek.com/news/fully-restored-directors-edition-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture-arrives-on-4k-ultra-hd

I'd love to have the ship cutaway and the concept art out of that set!

  

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https://www.fathomevents.com/events/Star-Trek-II-The-Wrath-of-Khan-40th-Anniversary-presented-by-TCM

If this is gonna be in theaters, I'm down to see it! 👍

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I just caught the final showing of ST2 WOK at my local theater.   A whopping 8-10 people tops in the showing,  and more then I expected from going to see the first movie.

This was the peak of the ST movies... they never were able to catch back up and it still holds up 40 years later.

 

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1 hour ago, Mommar said:

It didn't need much touching up but did they tweak anything like they did for TMP?

I'm probably the wrong person to ask,  but I did take note that there were extensions is some scenes..  most likely directors cut.       I did not notice any CG revamping like they did in the first one.

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10 hours ago, Mommar said:

It didn't need much touching up but did they tweak anything like they did for TMP?

I didn't notice any changes as far as the special effects go. There might have been a few extra seconds added to a scene here and there, I'm not an expert on the film, but nothing that stood out to me like "Oh wow!, I don't remember that scene!" Still one hell of a ride. My wife had never seen it, so we watched Space Seed a couple of nights before we went to the theater for WOK. She said she was glad we did that. 

I got my 4K BluRay of TMP Directors Cut in the mail and OHH MAN, there are some soft focus scenes but they were there in the theater as well, overall the video transfer is very good, but the AUDIO is outstanding!  WAY better than the theater we saw it in.  The opening Klingon/Cloud scene alone had me sold!  I don't have Dolby Atmos, but I do have a very good 6.1 system and in Dolby TrueHD 6.1, the surrounds are all VERY well used as well the LFE channel.  Highly recommended! Makes me kinda wish I'd just bought the 1-6 Box Set! 

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Hmm... it's a lovely piece.  Kind of reminds me of a piece that Shatner himself wrote into one of those novels he penned where Spock visits Kirk's grave on Veridian III.

The deepfake faces are a little unsettling to me, though.

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I'll be the odd man out to say it is straight up pandering and the deep fakes while decent were nothing special.  Certainly not worth the seemingly never ending amount of time they were on screen with essentially nothing happening.

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Weird, I don't remember the trailers for Generations and First Contact being so detailed, they practically give away the whole movie. Kind of ironic, seeing how everyone these days complains how current trailers do that, seems like the nineties were not any better. Also, I really miss that trailer guy voice narration.

As for the Generations movie... a lot of problematic aspects with this one. Nexus as a free for all space-time plot device... Then you have Picard's loss of family, which from a viewers point fails to trigger that emotional impact where you feel for the character. After the episode "Family" we never really hear or see from them again. Four years between that episode's first airing and the release of the movie!? Not sure why the producers thought this was a good story element to get viewers invested.

Romulans should have had a bigger part in the movie instead of the Duras sisters – Tomalak should have been teaming up with Soran, only to double-cross and use the Nexus for his own intention of destroying the Federation or something like that. And probably the most wasted potential of this movie, was not having Kirk taking command of an Enterprise one last time, doing what he does best – fighting Klingons (or Romulans)!

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As much as I love pre-Kurtzman Star Trek, I have to admit the TNG movies were definitely a mistake.

The first six Star Trek movies with the TOS cast were made well after the series ended and for all their uneven writing they were pretty impactful.  Not just because they were bigger in scope as Star Trek stories went at the time but also because they functioned thematically as a coda to the series.  For all their uneven writing, each installment had the crew take on part of their issues about getting older.  The Voyage Home aside, the other five movies effectively mirror the five stages of grief.  The Motion Picture is Kirk's denial that his glory days are behind him, The Wrath of Khan is Kirk and Khan raging at each other over what they've lost, The Search for Spock is bargaining as Kirk tries to find a way to cheat death for himself and those he cares about, The Final Frontier is depression as the crew is forced to confront their unprocessed traumas, and The Undiscovered Country is acceptance as the crew finally comes to terms with the end of their era as the hostilities with the Klingons that defined their careers ends.

The four TNG movies don't really have a consistent theme like that and scale-wise they're more like long TV episodes.  "Passing the torch" in Generations didn't work very well since there had already been a far more poignient torch-passing moment at the end of The Undiscovered Country, and thanks to the Nexus's timey-wimey BS Kirk is passing to torch to a fellow captain who's older than he is.

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No, really.  James T. Kirk was 59 when he "died" aboard the Enterprise-B in 2293 and didn't age in the Nexus.  Jean-Luc Picard was 59 when he took command of the Enterprise-D at the start of Star Trek: the Next Generation.  Star Trek: Generations is set seven years after that point, so Jean-Luc Picard is 66 when he also enters the Nexus and meets the time-displaced forever-59 James T. Kirk.    

It's also a terribly anticlimactic death for James T. Kirk twice over, dying in a hull breach on someone else's ship vs. having a bridge dropped on him or getting shot in the back by a crazy scientist.  Probably why Shatner tried to give Kirk a more dignified death in his own novel The Return and why Star Trek: Picard tried to quietly unkill him by revealing Section 31 has him somehow alive and in stasis in their safe deposit box of insane bullsh*t.  The same could be said for the Enterprise-D's defeat, going down to an obsolete Klingon Bird of Prey in a handful of shots at the hands of the Duras sisters, who ever never better than C-list villains.

First Contact was the best of the lot story-wise, but I'll never stop hating on it because it ruined the Borg.  When they were introduced in TNG, the Borg were an awesome and quite intimidating dark mirror of the Federation.  A civilization that had taken equality, cooperation, and scientific advancement to their illogical extreme by using technology to link their minds together into a collective consciousness devoted to its definition of utopia and societal perfection.  The Borg in "Best of Both Worlds" are shown to be genuinely confused that Humanity doesn't WANT to join the Collective, as it sees itself as a benevolent entity trying to make people's lives better.  First Contact sh*t all over that by making the Borg a bunch of mindless space zombies mindlessly spreading their space zombie infection at the behest of an evil AI in a pretty uninspired zombie movie A-plot.  The Borg Queen is a terrible idea that makes the Borg less alien and intimidating by replacing the faceless anonymity of the Collective with a clear leader who acts like a B-movie femme fatale and is constantly chewing the scenery with Shatnerian gusto.  Putting a human face on the Borg made it easier to write for them, leading to them becoming recurring villains in Voyager and the galaxy's biggest threat taking L after L on its own turf from a lost little science ship with nowhere near the resources and firepower of the Enterprise until they became a joke and were killed off for real.

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