The Penguin Spinoff Series

[tekering]

2 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

Hadn't watched Penguin yet but how does it compare to GOTHAM?

Gotham was a live-action cartoon, more absurd and fantastical than anything Tim Burton did with Batman.

The Penguin is so grounded and realistic that a costumed crimefighter would look ridiculous in the show.  Even the Christopher Nolan trilogy looks like a comic book by comparison.

[Big s]

2 hours ago, tekering said:

The Penguin is so grounded and realistic that a costumed crimefighter would look ridiculous in the show.  Even the Christopher Nolan trilogy looks like a comic book by comparison.

But in a city where most of the cops are on the take and enough psychotic experiments in Arkham, it kinda makes a bit of a fit for a masked hero

[Duke Togo]

The Arkham scenes were cartoonish and really don't fit with the rest of the show. The first real misstep in what has otherwise been a pretty good show.

[Big s]

12 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

The Arkham scenes were cartoonish and really don't fit with the rest of the show. The first real misstep in what has otherwise been a pretty good show.

I kinda feel that it ties the series to the movie a bit better, otherwise the show would seem a little too real and I liked that she 

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Got rid of Magpie brutally and quickly. 

As far as missteps, I think the previous episode just didn’t give the driver a convincing motivation to stay. It didn’t need much, but they really didn’t give any real reason for that decision.

Otherwise, it’s still the best show of the year so far

[Duke Togo]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

kinda feel that it ties the series to the movie a bit better, otherwise the show would seem a little too real

I would argue that because the show has been grounded is why it's doing as well as it is. 

[Big s]

6 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

I would argue that because the show has been grounded is why it's doing as well as it is. 

Yeah, but it’s gotta have something to tie it into the movie that this spinoff was based from otherwise it’s gonna make the whole thing a bit of a mess.

[Duke Togo]

1 hour ago, Big s said:

Yeah, but it’s gotta have something to tie it into the movie that this spinoff was based from otherwise it’s gonna make the whole thing a bit of a mess.

I don't give a flying flarn about comic book movies. Like most of the movie-going public. I'm watching because The Penguin is a pretty good crime drama. If this show gains any real traction it's not because it's a comic book property.

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1 hour ago, Duke Togo said:

I don't give a flying flarn about comic book movies. Like most of the movie-going public. I'm watching because The Penguin is a pretty good crime drama. If this show gains any real traction it's not because it's a comic book property.

That’s perfectly fine, there’s nothing wrong with not liking a comic book movie, but realistically speaking, this is a part of The Batman franchise. There are things like characters and events and tone that are crossed over between the movie and the show and possibly more will happen. Events from the movie are here to shape this series and more than likely, events from this show will play a part in the next movie.

There might be a bit of a chaotic comic bookish thing here and there in this show, but I don’t think there’s gonna be a lot more of that in the upcoming episodes. It’s more than likely that they did that last episode as a tie in kinda thing and the rest of the series will be back to the usual gangster stuff 

[Duke Togo]

Nice return to form with this episode. The show's good, yo. Viewership is going up for it every week.

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

Nice return to form with this episode. The show's good, yo. Viewership is going up for it every week.

It’s definitely a great show and back to the usual

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Penguin comes up with a plan that goes completely off course and could end in his death again, but as always he’s got something big cooking and things can’t go much more south for him at this point with just about everyone wanting him dead.

He really shouldn’t have angered Mr Krabs

[sh9000]

Final Episode Preview.

 

[Big s]

2 hours ago, sh9000 said:

Final Episode Preview.

 

Can’t wait. Last episode was great watching Mr. Krabs give such a beat down that

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He had a freakin heart attack.

Man that was crazy.

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Not sure how Batman can stay uninvolved after that much destruction and murder 

 

[jvmacross]

The Penguin is really entertaining...IMO best series this year....However, I am actually wondering how the Bat-Matt-verse is even being allowed to exist....IMO it's essentially just a temp money grab for WB while they await the DC-Gunn-verse to release and gain momentum, I think all other non-Gunn DC projects will eventually die probably after a potential The Batman 3 movie, if so, it's just more disposable entertainment that will have no bearing on the new DCU....or is it possible that James Gunn is so confident that his Batman/DC-verse will blow the Bat-Matt-verse away that he is not concerned with the fans inevitable comparisons, potentially saying it is better than whatever he comes up with in the new DCU?....it's a big gamble for WB to not allow the DC-Gunn-verse to try to find it's way without contending with internal competition (let alone external competition) for audience dollars....IMO, the Bat-Matt-verse is hardly any different than what Snyder did...the dark and gritty DC...so I can see the DC-Gunn-verse being a complete counter style to the Snyder-verse and, by default, the Bat-Matt-verse....we'll find out soon enough I suppose if Gunn can 'save' DC...

[jvmacross]

44 minutes ago, Big s said:

 

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Not sure how Batman can stay uninvolved after that much destruction and murder 

 

Batman and Bruce Wayne can't be in two places at the same time...maybe Bruce is not in Gotham during the events in The Penguin

[Big s]

6 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Batman and Bruce Wayne can't be in two places at the same time...maybe Bruce is not in Gotham during the events in The Penguin

I’d think it was pretty strange if he wasn’t in Gotham after all that mess from the riddler causing all kinds of problems around the city. He wanted to be a symbol of hope for Gotham and to just abandon it right when he figured that out just wouldn’t sit right. Most of the city is in disrepair and it’s obvious even from episode one that crime is all around but as this show goes on it would be extremely obvious where the majority of it is coming from to the worlds greatest detective.

[jvmacross]

27 minutes ago, Big s said:

I’d think it was pretty strange if he wasn’t in Gotham after all that mess from the riddler causing all kinds of problems around the city. He wanted to be a symbol of hope for Gotham and to just abandon it right when he figured that out just wouldn’t sit right. Most of the city is in disrepair and it’s obvious even from episode one that crime is all around but as this show goes on it would be extremely obvious where the majority of it is coming from to the worlds greatest detective.

I think he would have been around when the entire Falcone family was found dead....but apparently he wasn't, at least not onscreen.....but now that a neighborhood block sized hole has been ripped open in Gotham, he probably has no option but to return from where ever Bruce Wayne happens to be....and with that said, if the show still intends to not shown him, it means that the events of the next episode will likely happen within hours of that explosion....it can't be days or weeks later because then it truly would be hard to explain The Batman's vanishing act....

[sh9000]

Honest Trailer.

 

[TangledThorns]

Just finished this series and... it was OK. Thought Gotham was better as it was more comic book like.

[Big s]

14 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

Just finished this series and... it was OK. Thought Gotham was better as it was more comic book like.

I really likes it. This definitely was more on the realistic side, but I kinda put it in an overall thing that also includes The Batman and gives a good background as to how a wormy character like the Penguin could be in a higher spot taking over the city’s underworld. He basically did everything including basically keeping his involvement on the down low to the public by the end of the show. Everyone that could finger him is either dead, unbelievable, or works for him indirectly. 
It’s just enough breadcrumbs to lead a certain world’s greatest detective to eventually piece things together, but for the pd in general to leave him alone.

I also really loved the majority of the actors especially from Colin Farrell and Mr Krabs/the Kurgan