jenius Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 I wonder if the plate behind the head can recess to get the backpack more vertical. That's the only thing that looks off to me. Very much appears to be a mini Bandai DX. Quote
treatment Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Ignacio Ocamica said: From tfw2005: Hmm. Looking a bit more at it... Why does this ThreeZero seems like its got Popeye Forearms? Is this some kind of Robotech-isms to balanced out the rather oversized hips/intakes on the KC? Quote
DownIsUp Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, treatment said: Hmm. Looking a bit more at it... Why does this ThreeZero seems like its got Popeye Forearms? Is this some kind of Robotech-isms to balanced out the rather oversized hips/intakes on the KC? I would assume they're trying to emulate the, frankly massive, forearms that the Vf-1 had in art like this. Quote
Mommar Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, DownIsUp said: I would assume they're trying to emulate the, frankly massive, forearms that the Vf-1 had in art like this. A case of engineers who don't understand what fore-shortening is? The firearm is large there because of its angle closer to the viewer versus the rest of the body. Quote
Big s Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 The arms don’t bug me at all. If I were to nitpick this I think the head sculpt could use some work and the chest is too bulky. The back pack doesn’t sit at a great angle. The chest thing is bulky because of the transformation gimmicks they are using though, same with the backpack. But I do think the head could look a little better Quote
jenius Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 I appreciate a beefier take on battroid but I gotta imagine people here are going to be howling when we see good fighter mode shots... Most modern toys prioritize fighter mode resulting in a more svelte battroid but it looks like three zero is prioritizing battroid which means fighter is going to look thick. Quote
MKT Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 I imagine the thicker proportions on some parts & rounder sculpt is based on the original line-art. Quote
DownIsUp Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Honestly, it's pretty interesting to see a figure prioritize battroid to this extent. The last one I can think of was the Revoltech Transforming Valkyrie, and that was uhhh, slightly compromised. Quote
mark-1s Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 So far I'm really liking what I'm seeing. Call me crazy, but I even like the liberties taken with the head sculpt even if it doesn't have grey goggles. The backpack however, is my biggest gripe so far. Hopefully its only mis-transformed. Quote
Radioguy Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 If either of those illustrations were the basis for this sculpt, I understand the head even less. 7 hours ago, jenius said: I appreciate a beefier take on battroid but I gotta imagine people here are going to be howling when we see good fighter mode shots... Most modern toys prioritize fighter mode resulting in a more svelte battroid but it looks like three zero is prioritizing battroid which means fighter is going to look thick. If the tradeoff is really going to be that significant, then this shouldn't have been a transforming model. Quote
JB0 Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 I can't get over the head. It's rounded where it should be angular, making it bulbous and causing the camera to look way too small since it now has a huge forehead instead of no forehead. (the curve makes the head go up from the glass instead of back from the glass) I don't understand how they got to where they did, unless their goal was to "fix" the 1J head by making it more anthropomorphic. The curved design gives it more volume and makes it vaguely plausible as a helmet, like the 1S head. But I can't imagine there's many people that want a 1J that DOESN'T have a wedge for a head. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, JB0 said: I can't get over the head. It's rounded where it should be angular, making it bulbous and causing the camera to look way too small since it now has a huge forehead instead of no forehead. (the curve makes the head go up from the glass instead of back from the glass) I don't understand how they got to where they did, unless their goal was to "fix" the 1J head by making it more anthropomorphic. The curved design gives it more volume and makes it vaguely plausible as a helmet, like the 1S head. But I can't imagine there's many people that want a 1J that DOESN'T have a wedge for a head. Also looks short. Maybe will be fixed on final version, but still odd how they engineers got it wrong off the bat, Quote
Radioguy Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Yeah, it's so confusing I just can't wrap my...well, you know...around it. 😄 Quote
MKT Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 From Macross Mecha Manual site, the more modern interpretation of VF-1 Battroid line-art taken from the Master Files: Quote
jvmacross Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Has ThreeZero confirmed this is a PT VF-1? I can't imagine them releasing a 1/72 partsformer with it being an obvious competitor to the KC version though...but who knows.... Quote
jenius Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 4 hours ago, MKT said: From Macross Mecha Manual site, the more modern interpretation of VF-1 Battroid line-art taken from the Master Files: Looks like a toynami mpc Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 They only have the license to brand it as Robotech, right? Quote
jenius Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, Raikkonen said: They only have the license to brand it as Robotech, right? They might be able to do it as Macross outside of Japan... But it will probably stick to Robotech. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, jenius said: They might be able to do it as Macross outside of Japan... But it will probably stick to Robotech. Probably right, which will allow them to milk the mold even more both ways. Quote
jvmacross Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Raikkonen said: They only have the license to brand it as Robotech, right? Yes....however, being licensed by HG has yet to stop any company from adding Japanese SDF Macross logos to their packaging if they so desire.... What would actually be more surprising would be to see BW actually provide a SDFM license to a non-Japanese company doing business with HG....as far as I know it would be a first Edited July 10, 2023 by jvmacross Quote
JB0 Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 6 hours ago, jvmacross said: Yes....however, being licensed by HG has yet to stop any company from adding Japanese SDF Macross logos to their packaging if they so desire.... What would actually be more surprising would be to see BW actually provide a SDFM license to a non-Japanese company doing business with HG....as far as I know it would be a first HG has merchandise rights for SDF outside Japan, if I recall correctly. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 5:11 AM, MKT said: Yeahh that ankle flap piece will greatly complement the outward hip joint pioneered by the Chogokin. The legs on other hand doesn't appear to be as long as the other VF-1 toys, making it look wee bit stockier. Perhaps it's a Threezero thing as its also something we see on their Voltron too. Interested to see more Fighter pics to gauge how much of it is affected by the shorter legs. Not only the legs are short, the thruster feet look considerably smaller in certain shots. On 7/2/2023 at 9:34 AM, twich said: Never have gotten anything from ThreeZero, but their scupt looks pretty good. I like Kitzconcept, but the toys with fast packs are as much as Arcadia 1/60 scale VF-1's. Looks like it may have an articulated air brake. I wonder if the nose cone coming off is for a GBP set that they might release, or is it a Radar array gimmick under the radome? Twich The nosecone does have quite a open seam, which might indicate to it being removable. I find interesting the elbow joints. Overall I like so far asides some proportions, and ThreeZero does pride itself in quality, so might be a winner. Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 I'd be really interested to see them display the other modes. Quote
jvmacross Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 12 hours ago, JB0 said: HG has merchandise rights for SDF outside Japan, if I recall correctly. Correct...but the OP was wondering if their might be a Japan-only release for this figure... If so, it would be a first as far as I know....BW seems to not grant licenses as freely as HG, especially, it seems, from companies that do business with HG....but maybe things may have changed? Quote
Spark-O-Matic Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 It looks nice imo and I might buy them if they use diecast parts like the old 1/55 ones. tbh I was somewhat disappointed with my Threezero Voltron, to be fair it looks great! but its too light and has very little weight compared to my Bandai SOC Voltron. TZ makes almost fully high metal versions of all kinds of transformers! but they really skimped out on Voltron. I've noticed others online have complained about KC valks being to light and feeling fragile, well that's how I feel Threezero. when the Bandai Voltron of the same scale and hight weighs twice the weight as much because Voltron is suppose to be a high metal toy as a VF-1 toy should be too imo. Quote
technoblue Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 12:13 PM, Chronocidal said: I'd be really interested to see them display the other modes. Seriously. Threezero has had those stand in marketing photos since day one. The unpainted prototype was shown in fighter mode, though. Not sure if we have seen a physical prototype in guardian/gerwalk. Quote
mantisfists Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 10:24 PM, technoblue said: Seriously. Threezero has had those stand in marketing photos since day one. The unpainted prototype was shown in fighter mode, though. Not sure if we have seen a physical prototype in guardian/gerwalk. Think this is about as close as we've gotten….. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 6:32 PM, mantisfists said: Think this is about as close as we've gotten….. I'm still not convinced by the small thruster feet. The missiles also look scaled down. Otherwise its not too bad so far Quote
magicsp00n Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 What is it with the exaggerated panel lines? Both KC and ThreeZero seem to go bananas on them. Too distracting for me. Quote
DewPoint Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 The tab location concerns me. Reminds me of KC. Quote
sjoebarry Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Sorry I’m not too bright. Is this available for pre order yet? Quote
jvmacross Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, DewPoint said: The tab location concerns me. Reminds me of KC. It does...but ultimately both the leg tab's position and the slot on the backpak where it slides in work together to determine the profile in fighter mode 40 minutes ago, sjoebarry said: Sorry I’m not too bright. Is this available for pre order yet? Not yet...hopefully very soon Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 Threezero will be at SDCC this weekend through the sideshow booth, possibility of more info for this. Quote
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