MKT Posted Monday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:01 PM Nothing much new with this review, except he shows how the legs can be completely detached from the waist joint, ala Bandai DX. Video also doesn’t show anything with the 3rd elbow joint; it’s stuck in position as with all the other videos. Hilariously he also installs the missiles backwards, & has that huge ass gap between the arms & head in Fighter. I think there must be something wrong in the instruction manual for so many reviewers to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted Monday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:06 PM wow thanks jvmacross! great comparo. seems like a mixed bag. engineering wise in terms of tolerances, fit, and molding yamato/arcadia still seems to be the king (at least tied with the bandai). aesthetics i think is personal preference. beefy arms i like. sticking below legs in fighter mode...i think it was a compromise that willingly made which i don't think i'd have made that tradeoff. some might disagree with it but i don't think it was a "mistake" it came out that way to 3Z. obviously the 3Z wins in terms of articulation. in any case, i think there are a few other things that are dumb changes from the DX too, but i still need one of these in my hands to see how i feel about it. i am kind of doubting i'll want I want more than 1 though now. we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted Monday at 05:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:48 PM One other thing....the Three Zero VF-1J is heavy....about as much as a 1/55....and no clicking joints anywhere to be found...not sure what that holds for future floppiness....it's the only Three Zero product I own so no idea how these hold up to minimal use, let alone transformation type of wear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted Monday at 08:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:56 PM It looks like a great alternative for people who don't have the space nor funds to acquire aftermarket DX 1/48's. I feel like in that video he didn't bring the arms up anough in fighter mode because that gap between the shoulders and head was way too big. My only real criticism of that VF-1J is I don't like how pure white it is and would prefer a more white/grey like Bandai's DX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted Monday at 11:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:45 PM 6 hours ago, MKT said: I think there must be something wrong in the instruction manual for so many reviewers to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM 22 minutes ago, jvmacross said: OMG! That's the most Robotech thing to do ever! ROFLMAO!!! I really do pity the hapless reviewers for following that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogall Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM (edited) 12 minutes ago, treatment said: OMG! That's the most Robotech thing to do ever! ROFLMAO!!! I really do pity the hapless reviewers for following that... LOL! that is strange that they never caught this...🙈 Or maybe Macross got it wrong and Robotech got it right!? 🤣 Edited yesterday at 12:25 AM by grogall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM @jenius We are ALL holding you to your word when you do review this item in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted yesterday at 02:25 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:25 AM On 6/29/2024 at 12:04 AM, m0n5t3r said: Awesome pics! Curious how it would look beside the Yamato with the legs extended. So played around with the leg extension and settled on this much extension as a compromise...not enough and it is still too short, too much and it just looks wrong....at this amount of leg extension it is just about the same height in Battroid as the Yamato 1/60 VF-1.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0n5t3r Posted yesterday at 03:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:04 AM 8 minutes ago, jvmacross said: So played around with the leg extension and settled on this much extension as a compromise...not enough and it is still too short, too much and it just looks wrong....at this amount of leg extension it is just about the same height in Battroid as the Yamato 1/60 VF-1.... Not bad. Great comparison . And definitely no shortage of photos! The gaps might not be too noticable if the "kneecaps" were opened up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted yesterday at 04:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:09 AM 4 hours ago, jvmacross said: Hahaha mystery solved.. TZ implement animation errors in spirit. At least TZ didn’t draw the missiles being mounted onto the vertical stabilizers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froy Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM Just now, MKT said: Hahaha mystery solved.. TZ implement animation errors in spirit. At least TZ didn’t draw the missiles being mounted onto the vertical stabilizers. Episode 10 for those wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted yesterday at 04:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:46 AM 2 hours ago, jvmacross said: So played around with the leg extension and settled on this much extension as a compromise...not enough and it is still too short, too much and it just looks wrong....at this amount of leg extension it is just about the same height in Battroid as the Yamato 1/60 VF-1.... Have you been able to have a look at the elbows? The suspense is killing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0n5t3r Posted yesterday at 04:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:50 AM (edited) It looks like that supposed 3rd elbow joint is fixed. I hope threezero is checking this thread and will correct this and whatever else for the VF-1S. They have at least 6 months to make improvements. Edited yesterday at 04:50 AM by m0n5t3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Tater69 Posted yesterday at 05:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:35 AM 53 minutes ago, Froy said: Episode 10 for those wondering There's no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted yesterday at 10:36 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:36 AM 5 hours ago, Froy said: Episode 10 for those wondering Now we know who's bringing the beer to Friday Night's get-together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted yesterday at 02:23 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:23 PM On 6/30/2024 at 6:51 AM, jvmacross said: ....but now I found another part that I have no idea what it is used for, but seems to also be so loose that when 'swooshed' around you can hear it move....it is located inside of the front landing gear and does not seem to impede the front landing gear in any way, but just seems odd that it is so loose...guess I'll go take a look at the DX and see if the same part is there too...LOL This is also the other unsolved mystery - the purpose of this flap. It even has a tab as if for your fingernail to pull it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogall Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM 2 minutes ago, MKT said: This is also the other unsolved mystery - the purpose of this flap. It even has a tab as if for your fingernail to pull it out. Maybe it's for the escape pod!? 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted yesterday at 04:23 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:23 PM IMO....Probably the easiest and most fun "DX" VF-1 to pose to date....maybe the absence of all the joint clicking noise makes it less stressful...lol Also...that additional joint that was shown in earlier promo pics is gone...the only rotation is via the "bicep" piece directly underneath the shoulder piece... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Tater69 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Last off topic post I pinky swear Just wanted to tell you guys I did end up ordering a Yamato 1/60 V2 Roy Fokker with super parts (tv version) off ami-ami for about 150 bucks thank you for the suggestions I might end up getting the VF-1S version of the threezero depending on how it turns out, but I am cancelling my VF-1J preorder. Maybe if they release a VF-1J GBP box set with a bunch of missile display parts I'll buy that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Another annoying aspect of the Three Zero VF-1 is how the chest piece in Battroid does not connect securely to the chest cavity pieces.....with handling, the connection comes apart leaving it looking like it has a gap....it just seems, at least in my copy, that the tab and slots are not sufficient to hold them firmly together at all times...I suppose you can opt to not add the chest cavity parts, but it looks better with them installed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26662 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 30 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Another annoying aspect of the Three Zero VF-1 is how the chest piece in Battroid does not connect securely to the chest cavity pieces.....with handling, the connection comes apart leaving it looking like it has a gap....it just seems, at least in my copy, that the tab and slots are not sufficient to hold them firmly together at all times...I suppose you can opt to not add the chest cavity parts, but it looks better with them installed... That's peculiar bc my chest cavity pieces are rock-solid on both of mine. Perhaps there's a way to modify yours to fit better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, 26662 said: That's peculiar bc my chest cavity pieces are rock-solid on both of mine. Perhaps there's a way to modify yours to fit better? Have pics of how your tabs look both on the cavity pieces and where they connect to the chest piece? Like I said, it is only an issue once you start handling it and putting the VF-1J into several poses....I need to keep making sure the pieces are correctly connected Minor inconvenience I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, jvmacross said: Another annoying aspect of the Three Zero VF-1 is how the chest piece in Battroid does not connect securely to the chest cavity pieces.....with handling, the connection comes apart leaving it looking like it has a gap....it just seems, at least in my copy, that the tab and slots are not sufficient to hold them firmly together at all times...I suppose you can opt to not add the chest cavity parts, but it looks better with them installed... I was wondering about that too, since many videos also show those cavity fillers being very gappy once puttting the valk in poses. Not that big issue for me I guess, since I’m currently displaying my Yammies without them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Update...on the chest cavilty issue....in order for the chest piece to fit perfectly, there are some tabs (2) that need to go in as far as possible into the slots on a plastic plate that is directly underneath the outer chest piece....I got it as far in as possible and that seemed to have resolved the issue...it still looks like the tabs can go further into the slot, but the way it is now is enough to hold it in place.....once these inner tabs are in correctly...the final 2 tabs will provide a better fit to the outer chest piece...here are the pics of the tabs and slots that work together to get everything perfectly connected....all must be fitted into each other perfectly or the chest piece will keep popping out of the chest cavities.... Inner chest piece slot....there is one for the right side and one for the left... Tab on chest cavity piece....one on each cavity (left and right).... Once it is installed properly...it looks like this....it seems to be able to push further into the tab, but did not want to risk breaking anything....either the slot is too small or tab is too big.... These slots then connect to the final 2 tabs on the chest cavity pieces.... Tabs on the left and right chest cavity pieces... Both chest cavity pieces are now fitting much better..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, MKT said: I was wondering about that too, since many videos also show those cavity fillers being very gappy once puttting the valk in poses. Not that big issue for me I guess, since I’m currently displaying my Yammies without them anyway. In at least one of the videos that showed excessively gappy side covers, the reviewer didn't seem to have the swingbar armature properly connected to the hip sockets or backplate, so the backplate wasn't fit as closely to the cockpit fuselage as it should have been. It's possible to make the same transformation error on both the Yamarcadia and DX valks, so it seemed like a pretty cut and dried case of mistransformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Hiriyu said: In at least one of the videos that showed excessively gappy side covers, the reviewer didn't seem to have the swingbar armature properly connected to the hip sockets or backplate, so the backplate wasn't fit as closely to the cockpit fuselage as it should have been. It's possible to make the same transformation error on both the Yamarcadia and DX valks, so it seemed like a pretty cut and dried case of mistransformation. On that note: how close are the Yamarcadia and DX valks, designwise? Not sure how much they vary from one another as far as parts shapes and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekering Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Finally received mine from Show.Z Store. 🤨 Contents of the shipping box were as expected. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0n5t3r Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) At least it had corner protectors on it. Wait, those corner protectors should be on the toy box, doh. Edited 11 hours ago by m0n5t3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Good grief. Yeah, not going to be looking for fragile stuff there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Tater69 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Post office must have a bone to pick with you, I've never had a show.z store order ravaged like that. When it comes to 3rd party transformers retailers I usually respect their packaging the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioguy Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Yeah, they need to make that right. It's a window box meant to be collectible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazam Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) On 7/2/2024 at 10:46 AM, Shawn said: @jenius We are ALL holding you to your word when you do review this item in the future. More of the same in this video. 😄 1 hour ago, tekering said: Finally received mine from Show.Z Store. 🤨 Contents of the shipping box were as expected. 😒 Yikes! 🤔😧 Edited 10 hours ago by shazam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, tekering said: Finally received mine from Show.Z Store. 🤨 Contents of the shipping box were as expected. 😒 Well that blows. I only ever ordered 1 item from ShowZ some years ago, & if I remember correctly, it came packed inside a styrofoam box then, which is probably the best type of shipping box. 6 hours ago, pengbuzz said: On that note: how close are the Yamarcadia and DX valks, designwise? Not sure how much they vary from one another as far as parts shapes and whatnot. Well, if talking about sculpt, they are very similar to each other. Jenius’s review of the DX has plenty of comparison pics between both, & there’s even a video detailing the engineering differences. 1 hour ago, shazam said: More of the same in this video. 😄 Yikes! 🤔😧 Lol let’s see if TZ will revise the manual for the VF-1S release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 46 minutes ago, MKT said: Well, if talking about sculpt, they are very similar to each other. Jenius’s review of the DX has plenty of comparison pics between both, & there’s even a video detailing the engineering differences. I'll check out that video; thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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