tekering Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, sqidd said: Fan Racer spec is 5m. No, @Chronocidal just proved that's impossible. It's gotta be over 6 meters in length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Chronocidal said: I'm going to be practical here, and assume that no one is going to design an aircraft that is too small for a 6-foot pilot to fly. The figure is roughly 5'10". @tekering I think we're both wrong. I don't think @Chronocidal assumptions are necessarily correct. It's entirely possible that the fan racer is not a "production" plane. It could be custom built for Hikaru. In our reality there are all sorts of custom build "garage planes". Having a custom plane built for a air circus performer I would say is more likely than not. For example, the Red Bull air race planes are all custom built for their pilots. They don't roll off an assembly line. Hikaru is 5'8" (I would have begged him at 5'6"). With Hikaru being 5'8" that put the Fan Racer at 1/54.65 scale. Pretty much exactly between 1/48 and 1/60. I know I'm splitting hairs. Edited July 25, 2021 by sqidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californium Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, sqidd said: With Hikaru being 5'8" that put the Fan Racer at 1/54.65 scale. Pretty much exactly between 1/48 and 1/60. lol. that would make the fan racer chunky monkey scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, Californium said: lol. that would make the fan racer chunky monkey scale. Chunky Fan Racer! Make it happen Bandai! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californium Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, sqidd said: Chunky Fan Racer! Make it happen Bandai! *gasp!* With a chunky sculpt and spring-loaded bare-metal landing gear and a permanently closed canopy and cockpit short on interior detail... Seriously, I'd buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYRL VF-1S Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Californium said: *gasp!* With a chunky sculpt and spring-loaded bare-metal landing gear and a permanently closed canopy and cockpit short on interior detail... Seriously, I'd buy it. Yup. Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DYRL VF-1S said: Yup. Me too Me three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 looks so good on display! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Valks are currently impossible. Why worry about it? Just enjoy the toys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Slave IV said: Valks are currently impossible. Why worry about it? Just enjoy the toys! Kinda my point. The Fan Racer is over the top impossible. No room for lading gear, control surfaces are way too small, not enough room for a power plant to have it perform like it did in the show, not enough room for fuel, etc. Nit picking it get's you a complete re-design. Just run with the line art and call it a day. And yes, even with technology way more advanced than what we have now a VF-1 is impossible. And even with super advanced technology, it can't transform. Not without magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 hours ago, sqidd said: Despite the figure not scaling correctly the Fan racer does. Actually it's too big to be 1/48. Check my calcs. I'm really tired. Fan Racer spec is 5m. -5m = 16.4ft -16.4ft = 196.8in -Fan Racer actual measurement 4.25" -196.8in / 4.25in = 46.30 Fan Racer actual scale 1/46.30 I'd say that pretty close to 1/48. It'll be awhile before I get my copies, so I'm just speculating. But it looks like the DX version is the same size as the Yamato. Between getting their scales right, I'll put my money on Yamato over Bandai. Having scales out of whack is the norm for Bandai stuff, so it's not a a dealbreaker for me (I did buy 2x 1Ds after all). The DX 1/48 line is more of a sideshow for me, since I already have a massive Yamato collection for having everything in scale. I doubt we'll ever see 1/48 versions of the YF-19 or VF-25 as they would be huge and expensive... but damn I'd love it if they did materialize someday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, sqidd said: Kinda my point. The Fan Racer is over the top impossible. No room for lading gear, control surfaces are way too small, not enough room for a power plant to have it perform like it did in the show, not enough room for fuel, etc. Nit picking it get's you a complete re-design. Just run with the line art and call it a day. And yes, even with technology way more advanced than what we have now a VF-1 is impossible. And even with super advanced technology, it can't transform. Not without magic. Yep. Landing gears are overrated too. Out of my hundreds of Valks, I have one displayed on the landing gears just for variety and the hell of it. Nice to have but I wouldn’t mind if none of them had landing gears and came with Yetistands instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Lolicon said: It'll be awhile before I get my copies, so I'm just speculating. But it looks like the DX version is the same size as the Yamato. Between getting their scales right, I'll put my money on Yamato over Bandai. Having scales out of whack is the norm for Bandai stuff, so it's not a a dealbreaker for me (I did buy 2x 1Ds after all). The DX 1/48 line is more of a sideshow for me, since I already have a massive Yamato collection for having everything in scale. I doubt we'll ever see 1/48 versions of the YF-19 or VF-25 as they would be huge and expensive... but damn I'd love it if they did materialize someday! The million dollar question is what is the "official" size of the Fan Racer? What is considered "official"? If it's the line art from previously in this thread then it scales slightly bigger than 1/48. If there is a more "official" size for the Fan Racer I'd like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Slave IV said: Yep. Landing gears are overrated too. Out of my hundreds of Valks, I have one displayed on the landing gears just for variety and the hell of it. Nice to have but I wouldn’t mind if none of them had landing gears and came with Yetistands instead. I have zero displayed on it's landing gear. Ya know, when I re-organize my Hikaru shelf when the 1D comes in I think I'm going to put one on it's landing gear for novelty sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, sqidd said: The million dollar question is what is the "official" size of the Fan Racer? What is considered "official"? If it's the line art from previously in this thread then it scales slightly bigger than 1/48. If there is a more "official" size for the Fan Racer I'd like to see it. Don't really care enough to sift through books and old lineart and manuals or breaking out my calipers to check. It's little more than a curiosity for me, not a complaint, despite the moaning by some members. Nothing shows how little you care about something like bragging about how much you don't care about something. (Not directed at you personally, btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lolicon said: Don't really care enough to sift through books and old lineart and manuals or breaking out my calipers to check. It's little more than a curiosity for me, not a complaint, despite the moaning by some members. Nothing shows how little you care about something like bragging about how much you don't care about something. (Not directed at you personally, btw) Seriously......I don't care!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, sqidd said: Seriously......I don't care!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) I just measured the Yamato 1/60 Fan Racer, it comes to 4.75”. So Yamato’s assumes the actual size to be more than 7 meters. I’m guessing Yamato & Bandai flubbed a little on their pilots’ size for their VF-1. Who cares if the pilot is an mm shorter or wider than should be at that scale? When it came to eventually making the racer, as there isn’t clear official specs on its actual size, both Yamato & Bandai probably just went with sizing it around their respective pilots’ size. And now we get a weird result where both their racers are almost the same size despite very different scales. I usually don’t really care much about scale accuracy, it’s just I’m slightly miffed this instance because I happen to have a painted-up Yamato, so Bandai’s actually won’t add much value because it’s going be very, very similar in size & features (but I won’t be selling the racer off @no3Ljm ), much more so than both their 1/60 YF-19.. Edited July 25, 2021 by MKT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, MKT said: I usually don’t really care much about scale accuracy, it’s just I’m slightly miffed this instance because I happen to have a painted-up Yamato, so Bandai’s actually won’t add much value because it’s going be very, very similar in size & features (but I won’t be selling the racer off @no3Ljm ), much more so than both their 1/60 YF-19.. Well, for those who's not happy with their DX Fan Racer scale, I'm just here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Well, for those who's not happy with their DX Fan Racer scale, I'm just here. Really? We had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 It’s all good. I’ll take it personally and not care about it. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Does anyone have Luna Park's email address? The contact button on their page isn't working. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Well, for those who's not happy with their DX Fan Racer scale, I'm just here. I'll happily sell you my extra fan racer for 23000 yen plus 10% consumption tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, sqidd said: Does anyone have Luna Park's email address? The contact button on their page isn't working. Thanks info@lunapark.store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, MKT said: info@lunapark.store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasazi37 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Lolicon said: I'll happily sell you my extra fan racer for 23000 yen plus 10% consumption tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Lolicon said: I'll happily sell you my extra fan racer for 23000 yen plus 10% consumption tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Heheh, all the scale debates! I'm only disappointed that it wasn't actually 1/48 because I wanted it to be bigger. Far as the scaling goes though, yes, they have a history of flubbing scales. According to Bandai, all three of these pilots are 1/72 scale. The only real reason it matters to me is that I need to know what scale to make the helmet-less Hikaru so it will fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladykins Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Mine is now rolling out of Tokyo on DHL, so I can't wait to have it in my hand so I can complain about the size and scale and lack of extra Hikaru figure and sitting Minmei. I've been looking for ward to complaining for days now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasazi37 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, vladykins said: Mine is now rolling out of Tokyo on DHL, so I can't wait to have it in my hand so I can complain about the size and scale and lack of extra Hikaru figure and sitting Minmei. I've been looking for ward to complaining for days now. Likewise. Mine just shipped via FedEx. I've been living vicariously through everyone else's complaints for a week. It's just not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Still radio silence from AE on mine..... I waaaannaaa complain like everyone else dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqidd Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just got this email back from Luna Park about their crap packing: Yes, we have received some report from buyers of the new figure (DX VF-1D), as the item was super popular, we sold over 200 units, so we have given the whole container to DHL, we asked DHL to warp them, however, DHL didn't handle the parcel with care, we feel bad about it. we have confirmed that DHL shipped 78 units of DX-1D so far, still over 100 left, we already told them do use bubble warp, don't just ship it in plastic bag. (if you wanted to order DX VF-1D) and from now on, we will not give wrapping job to DHL anymore, we will start wrapping ourselves, please rest assured, your order will be wrapped with care. thanks again. regards LUNA PARK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYRL VF-1S Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 It's tough finding a solid proxy. I'm not having the best luck on proxy side of the house but thankfully received one from a shop and looks great. I've tried Neoyko 3 times now, and the first two have struck out. They held my funds for 6 months on the Super Parts order and canceled on me a month after release. Then canceled on GBP Parts immediately because they were too slow to procure. Now, I'm still waiting for "the item to arrive to the warehouse" for my second 1D. And that's fine. Maybe this week I'll see progress since holiday is over, but I'm not confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betocc Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, DYRL VF-1S said: It's tough finding a solid proxy. I'm not having the best luck on proxy side of the house but thankfully received one from a shop and looks great. I've tried Neoyko 3 times now, and the first two have struck out. They held my funds for 6 months on the Super Parts order and canceled on me a month after release. Then canceled on GBP Parts immediately because they were too slow to procure. Now, I'm still waiting for "the item to arrive to the warehouse" for my second 1D. And that's fine. Maybe this week I'll see progress since holiday is over, but I'm not confident. I got an ETA of August 4th from Neokyo to receive my 1Ds on the warehouse, they sent me an email on July 20th with that info. An operator reviewed your order status #XXXXXX (DX Chogokin VF-1D Valkyrie & Fun Racer). A new estimated time of arrival at the warehouse has been issued. After investigating the order status, our team issued the following new ETA : 4 Aug, 2021. We wish to emphasise that despite this delay, the order cancellation is not possible at this point. We sincerely apologise for this disturbance beyond our control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemanoeuvres Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, DYRL VF-1S said: It's tough finding a solid proxy. I'm not having the best luck on proxy side of the house but thankfully received one from a shop and looks great. I've tried Neoyko 3 times now, and the first two have struck out. They held my funds for 6 months on the Super Parts order and canceled on me a month after release. Then canceled on GBP Parts immediately because they were too slow to procure. Now, I'm still waiting for "the item to arrive to the warehouse" for my second 1D. And that's fine. Maybe this week I'll see progress since holiday is over, but I'm not confident. Most proxy services named on the forum are rendered useless for TWE after a few releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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