FX Alien: Earth

[Bolt]

All Blade Runner speculation aside, concerning this project, i think the only way it's going to work is an isolated incident. It is of course possible some remains of the xenomorph are recovered and the best explanation later in Aliens is the corporation is just playing a poker face to Ripley. And or their representative doesn't have the clearance/ pay grade to be privy to what the corporation has in the vault. 

[M'Kyuun]

3 minutes ago, Bolt said:

All Blade Runner speculation aside, concerning this project, i think the only way it's going to work is an isolated incident. It is of course possible some remains of the xenomorph are recovered and the best explanation later in Aliens is the corporation is just playing a poker face to Ripley. And or their representative doesn't have the clearance/ pay grade to be privy to what the corporation has in the vault. 

Agree on your first point- it seems the most logical way for the intro of a xenomorph without affecting the rest of the timeline. As to the second point, also conceivable, although, one would think that WY would take any bit or piece of the thing and try cloning it, which means they'd had it for years and the need to send the Nostromo to LV-426 is moot. My hope is for a The Thing plot where a group of maybe 20-30 people, ostensibly rescue workers sent in to search the downed ship and recover and give aid to survivors, in an extremely isolated and hostile environment, perhaps Antarctica, encounter the Alien. The usual running, hiding, searching for a way to kill or stop it ensues, lots of dead people, and eventually the Alien itself, with the person who brought it down also fatally injured so there's no one to tell the tale. I don't want the stories of Alien and Aliens retold, rebooted, or amended. An isolated story with good writing, interesting characters, good effects, and some engaging plot beyond the usual dumb decisions and large body count would serve a show like this well. Like Alien, apply some good pacing- someone needn't die at the hands of the monster every episode. A good use of tension and suspense would be far superior to just another run and slash film.

[Big s]

1 hour ago, M'Kyuun said:

Well, I doubt Phil Dick had Alien in mind when he wrote Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep in 1968. Likewise, I doubt that Dan O'Bannon had Dick's pivotal work in mind when writing Alien in the late 70s. Ridley Scott can conflate the two properties all day, but any crossover is purely his work and not the work of the originators. I feel the same way about Alien and the Predator; no matter how much Hollywood and the fans want to see the two enmeshed, at the end of the day, they're separate stand-alone properties that were artificially brought together. Judging by what's been done with those enmeshed films, I'll take mine separate, thanks. 

I enjoy the Blade Runner universe; I thought Blade Runner: Black Lotus was well done, as well as 2045. I'm happy with their expanding the universe with additional stories, however I don't feel that it needs to be combined or crossed with anything else to make it better. Honoring Dick's paranoia and mistrust of government and technology, his questioning of humanity and sentience as it pertains to artificial life, and whether that life has the right to exist or be free to live as it desires are all fundamental elements of Blade Runner, and those elements should be focal points in any Blade Runner media. Mixing it with Alien, I think the philosophical element would be lost amidst all the screaming, running, hiding, shooting, and dying.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always thought it was a bad idea and Scott has plenty of those, especially these days. But I wouldn’t put it past them to try and tie it in somehow. He’s already kinda messed up the franchise for alien and now Gladiator, it wouldn’t be unthinkable for him to do it to Blade Runner as well 

[Big s]

1 hour ago, M'Kyuun said:

Edited 23 hours ago by Big s
Double post

[TangledThorns]

I found this SNL skit more entertaining than the actual film 🤣

 

 

[M'Kyuun]

2 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

I found this SNL skit more entertaining than the actual film 🤣

 

 

😆 Haven't seen the actual film yet, but the SNL crew did a bang up job on this. Guessing they had to preshoot a lot of that stuff, as most of that would be tough to film on the SNL stage. I don't regularly watch SNL, but if this is their normal level of operations, wow.

[lechuck]

Alien vs. Calvin – whoever wins...

 

 

 

 

 

 

there is a Predator already on the hunt...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but only the Terminator will have the last say....

 

[Bolt]

12 hours ago, Big s said:

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always thought it was a bad idea and Scott has plenty of those, especially these days. But I wouldn’t put it past them to try and tie it in somehow. He’s already kinda messed up the franchise for alien and now Gladiator, it wouldn’t be unthinkable for him to do it to Blade Runner as well 

I would think a Blade Runner tease or Easter egg would be cool , as it's been done in the past. Anything more is going to create controversy.

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Bolt said:

I would think a Blade Runner tease or Easter egg would be cool , as it's been done in the past. Anything more is going to create controversy.

I think if they had done something, it would’ve worked far better before the more recent stuff had kinda complicated the timeline of the alien franchise 

[JB0]

On 1/29/2025 at 12:10 PM, M'Kyuun said:

Unless, they try to say Weyland-Yutani did recover some remains, have it in their lab for 30 years or so, and somehow draw a correlation between the derelict ship's signal thus sending the Nostromo to their fate. That narrative, however, contrasts with the incredulous response by the company's people to Ripley's report at the beginning of Aliens where they explicitly mention that nothing of the sort has ever been recorded prior despite having colonized numerous worlds.

If I recall, there's also deleted scenes in Aliens where the company sends a message to the colonists to explore the location of the crashed ship.

[Seto Kaiba]

On 1/29/2025 at 1:10 PM, M'Kyuun said:

Unless, they try to say Weyland-Yutani did recover some remains, have it in their lab for 30 years or so, and somehow draw a correlation between the derelict ship's signal thus sending the Nostromo to their fate. That narrative, however, contrasts with the incredulous response by the company's people to Ripley's report at the beginning of Aliens where they explicitly mention that nothing of the sort has ever been recorded prior despite having colonized numerous worlds.

The whole premise of Alien: Earth seems like a massive continuity problem all on its lonesome... I have a feeling they're relying on Weyland-Yutani being the Evil Megacorporation staffed by Lying Liars Who Lie to spackle over the massive plot holes.  Either that or they're going to fall back on the idea that the company is just SO big that its left hand doesn't know what its right hand is doing.

Mind you, how much the company knew about the threat on LV-426 prior to Aliens has effectively been retconned several times.  The theatrical cut implied they didn't know about the derelict on LV-426 or why the Nostromo had been lost, though the special edition cut suggests they were at least aware based on the colony's distress calls before all contact was lost.  Then, of course, Alien: Romulus and Alien: Isolation suggest they knew about the xenomorph 37-42 years before Aliens thanks to the recovery of the Nostromo's flight data recorder by the Anisedora and the recovery of Big Chap from the Nostromo's wreckage.

Maybe this is a hamfisted attempt by Scott et. al. to pivot back to the abandoned plot thread about David supposedly creating the xenomorphs.

 

 

[Duke Togo]

1 minute ago, Seto Kaiba said:

The whole premise of Alien: Earth seems like a massive continuity problem all on its lonesome

Hasn't it already been established that they're ignoring most of the Alien franchise? Probably for the better.

[Bolt]

7 minutes ago, Duke Togo said:

Hasn't it already been established that they're ignoring most of the Alien franchise? Probably for the better.

Wait, whaaat? How can you forget Alien: Resurrection. Directed by mr City Of Lost Children 

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

Hasn't it already been established that they're ignoring most of the Alien franchise? Probably for the better.

At this point, I’ve lost track of what’s getting ignored or included