slaginpit Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Im so tired of the 1000000000000000s of valks being made. Sure I had two monsters sold the one that transformed...I got bored of that design but at least they took to making something out of the ordinary instead of just making the same old jets that roboform... I want to see more cooler iterations of other mecha from the franchise. This is why I created the thread... Like this... Man that looks so cool, sure its Robotech but i consider it in the same universe Ya ya dont tread on me you Macross Purists ...I think the mecha between Robotech Beta/alpha and a macross Monster fusion is coooooool Quote
slaginpit Posted August 19, 2020 Author Posted August 19, 2020 Mod these a bit bring them into the macross world ...very nice i know its a game... Quote
tekering Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, slaginpit said: Im so tired of the 1000000000000000s of valks being made. I don't believe there are a hundred different valkyrie designs, much less a quadrillion... 6 minutes ago, slaginpit said: dont tread on me you Macross Purists I think you're posting in the wrong forum, kid. Quote
slaginpit Posted August 19, 2020 Author Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, tekering said: I don't believe there are a hundred different valkyrie designs, much less a quadrillion... I think you're posting in the wrong forum, kid. Well its a Macross Toy want list ...and yeah plane meet robot robot meet plane... They keep evolving Macross to abysmal K-pop anime ...why not evolve the mech Quote
GabrielV Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Those Chuck Walton reinterpretations of the Sentinels designs are pretty damn cool. The art in the UEEF book is definitely the best thing about the Palladium Robotech 2e line. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, slaginpit said: Im so tired of the 1000000000000000s of valks being made. Sure I had two monsters sold the one that transformed...I got bored of that design but at least they took to making something out of the ordinary instead of just making the same old jets that roboform... I want to see more cooler iterations of other mecha from the franchise. This is why I created the thread... Valkyries are Macross's most iconic design works... one of the main things that visually sets Macross apart from the hundreds of other mecha anime out there. If you want boring, generic, slow 'n stompy, ground-bound robots there are loads of other titles that can oblige you. Like Gundam. 41 minutes ago, slaginpit said: Like this... Please bear with us while we attempt to locate a vomiting reaction image strong enough to properly express the full extent of our disgust. I'm pretty sure citing a Palladium Books "original" design from their "please don't sue us" collection in the Absolutely Not The Sentinels sourcebook is as close to objectively bad taste as it gets. Even Robotech fans hated the designs in that book. 41 minutes ago, slaginpit said: Man that looks so cool, sure its Robotech but i consider it in the same universe Ya ya dont tread on me you Macross Purists ...I think the mecha between Robotech Beta/alpha and a macross Monster fusion is coooooool But the reality is that it's not, and it really doesn't belong here. Quote
seti88 Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Delta had evolution of the zentradi units, mech wise. Or should I say mash-up wise. Edited August 19, 2020 by seti88 Quote
GabrielV Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, seti88 said: Delta had evolution of the zentradi units, mech wise. They look beefier in the show somehow. I liked them in the show, but those miniatures are lacking something I can't lay my finger on. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Macross II: Lovers Again's prequel games - Macross 2036 and Macross: Eternal Love Song - also had a number of new riffs on Zentradi mecha: http://www.gearsonline.net/series/macross/2036/ Quote
Focslain Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, slaginpit said: So this looked familiar... Ta'unar Supremacy armour Quote
pengbuzz Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 13 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Valkyries are Macross's most iconic design works... one of the main things that visually sets Macross apart from the hundreds of other mecha anime out there. If you want boring, generic, slow 'n stompy, ground-bound robots there are loads of other titles that can oblige you. Like Gundam. Please bear with us while we attempt to locate a vomiting reaction image strong enough to properly express the full extent of our disgust. I'm pretty sure citing a Palladium Books "original" design from their "please don't sue us" collection in the Absolutely Not The Sentinels sourcebook is as close to objectively bad taste as it gets. Even Robotech fans hated the designs in that book. But the reality is that it's not, and it really doesn't belong here. What is that, a space herpie?!!! Quote
GabrielV Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, vladykins said: Ice Pirates FTW I love Ice Pirates. Quote
Mommar Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 9:41 AM, slaginpit said: Ya ya dont tread on me you Macross Purists ...I think the mecha between Robotech Beta/alpha and a macross Monster fusion is coooooool It looks cool but it's not Macross. Did any of the past or current creators of Macross design this? No. Did it appear in any oficially licensed Macross product? No. That's not purity, just plain and simple fact. Quote
Mommar Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 23 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: If you want boring, generic, slow 'n stompy, ground-bound robots there are loads of other titles that can oblige you. Like Gundam. To be fair, Destroids were a part of the original property and the designs are as much a part of Macross history as anything else. It's fair to want more designs like that in the Macross universe even if the existence of the Valkyrie makes them obsolete. The initial Destroid designs were cool looking. Though what he's referencing here is NOT Macross. I also find his suggestion to un-ironically grift other things from other properties amusing. That's not Macross, kid. Quote
jvmacross Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 10:41 AM, slaginpit said: Im so tired of the 1000000000000000s of valks being made. Sure I had two monsters sold the one that transformed...I got bored of that design but at least they took to making something out of the ordinary instead of just making the same old jets that roboform... I want to see more cooler iterations of other mecha from the franchise. This is why I created the thread... Like this... Man that looks so cool, sure its Robotech but i consider it in the same universe Ya ya dont tread on me you Macross Purists ...I think the mecha between Robotech Beta/alpha and a macross Monster fusion is coooooool Mospeada at best......thought this was an ALL-MACROSS section.....once again worthless moderating Quote
GabrielV Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Mospeada at best......thought this was an ALL-MACROSS section.....once again worthless moderating Don't look in the new toy topic. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Gonna bring this back... In before the lock! -b. Quote
jvmacross Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, GabrielV said: Don't look in the new toy topic. Not sure what you mean, but I think you are referring to the "most recent toy purchase" thread....if so, yes, that is so out of control by now that it would require just creating 2 new topics one in the Macross Toys forums and one in the "Anime and Science Fiction" forum...again worthless moderating Quote
Slave IV Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 That thread says "Macross or toy" so it has been a great place for Macross collectors to share what they have been getting regardless of brand. We are all Macross collectors so it's a great thread to see what's been coming up without going to another part of the forum. The loose moderation here is one of the best things about this forum. It really sucks when a forum is so tightly moderated that conversation can't evolve to talk about some other things especially when it stems naturally from OT discussion. People are good enough about getting back OT once whatever the side discussion is done. There is nothing worse than a moderator moving posts around to fit tightly with the topic because you get posts that pop up in other threads that completely lose the context of why they exist in the first place. Anyways, just chiming in my thoughts. I think the stuff posted here is cool to see and can easily evolve into what the title says because there are plenty of "proper" Macross designs we haven't seen in toy form yet. Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 The posts in the OP reminded me that I'd actually really like the Monster from Macross Zero, complete with the unfolding hands. Maybe not as crazy as some things that could be done, but I thought that thing was super cool. Quote
Gabe Q Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 8:43 AM, slaginpit said: This guy looks like he'd fall flat on his back after one volley from those cannons on his back! Quote
jenius Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Imagine they're big beam weapons. The Mospeada Glaug only looks good from afar... If you look closely it's a bizarre Mish mash of borrowed parts. Quote
Mog Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 I'm more than ready for the Valk designs to move on from the whole "long, spindly legs with wings making up a huge folded backpack" look that Macross has been stuck on since Frontier. It was cool when it first showed up in Frontier, but it's more than ran its course. Time for an evolutionary design change. Quote
Sanity is Optional Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, jvmacross said: Not sure what you mean, but I think you are referring to the "most recent toy purchase" thread....if so, yes, that is so out of control by now that it would require just creating 2 new topics one in the Macross Toys forums and one in the "Anime and Science Fiction" forum...again worthless moderating I don't generally mind, but I'm a bit tired of seeing spam posts with a bunch of un-spoiler'd pictures of hotwheels and cheap crappy looking marvel figs. No offense to those who love em, but I have zero nostalgia for that stuff, and they just look cheap and usually ugly to me. Quote
sketchley Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mommar said: To be fair, Destroids were a part of the original property and the designs are as much a part of Macross history as anything else. It's fair to want more designs like that in the Macross universe even if the existence of the Valkyrie makes them obsolete. The initial Destroid designs were cool looking. More Destroids that appeared in Macross? I forget which game this beast came from, but it's an official post-First Interstellar War Destroid penned by Kazutaka Miyatake—the Destroid designer—himself: Then there's also the ADR-04-Mk XV S-Defender from Macross the Ride: http://sdfyodogawa.mywebcommunity.org/Stats/Statistics/Defender/S-Defender.php (better pictures in the link) Edited August 21, 2020 by sketchley Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Mog said: I'm more than ready for the Valk designs to move on from the whole "long, spindly legs with wings making up a huge folded backpack" look that Macross has been stuck on since Frontier. It was cool when it first showed up in Frontier, but it's more than ran its course. Time for an evolutionary design change. To be fair, the VFs in Macross Frontier and Macross Delta are all directly linked designs from the same generation and base model. It's somewhat less than surprising that they all look similar. 3 hours ago, sketchley said: I forget which game this beast came from, but it's an official post-First Interstellar War Destroid penned by Kazutaka Miyatake—the Destroid designer—himself: That's from FamilySoft's Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Remember Me for the NEC PC-9801... one of a trio of Macross strategy games FamilySoft made. That said, it's not a post-First Space War Destroid. FamilySoft's Macross games were all side stories set during the First Space War. Remember Me used a mixture of events from the TV and Movie versions, while its sequels Skull Leader and Love Stories used Movie version events in their stories. The original mecha introduced in FamilySoft's games - the VF-X3 Medusa, LDR-04 Maverick, and SDP-1 Stampede Pack - were presented as original/improvised developments by the Macross's onboard factory similar to the SDR-04-Mk.XII Phalanx Destroid in the official setting. You had to unlock 'em via the resource management mechanic in the games. The Maverick was the long-ranged missile counterpart to the Phalanx meant to work in concert with the Monsters for long-range suppression attacks. (In an entertaining coincidence, the remarks in the game manual imply that its full designation also ends in Mk.XV same as the later Super Defender.) 6 hours ago, jenius said: If you look closely it's a bizarre Mish mash of borrowed parts. Yeah, all of the designs in Palladium's Absolutely Not The Sentinels Sourcebook (AKA the UEEF Marines Sourcebook) were either Imai Files designs used basically unaltered or this kind of "frankenmech" (Palladium's own term) standing in for the Sentinels designs that had been deemed too close to the original Macross ones to safely use. If you look, most of 'em are made from a combination of Legioss, TLEAD, and Auroran parts that are wildly out of scale with each other. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Ever since seeing Macross Zero, I've wanted a fully transformable Octos. I still want a 1/60 Variable Glaug. I made my own with LEGO, but it's not quite the same. I also want an Fz-109a Elgerzorene, or an Az-130a Panzerzorene. The enemy mecha from M7 got no toy love, which is a shame. I also want a VF-14 Vampire, b/c who doesn't want a valk based on the A-12/SR-71? What's the transforming police mech from? It's silly in a good way. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, M'Kyuun said: What's the transforming police mech from? Macross 7. Quote
sketchley Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 9 hours ago, M'Kyuun said: What's the transforming police mech from? It's silly in a good way. There was also a flying transforming "Police Machine" in Macross 7: It was also able to operate in outer space by switching the propeller engines for rocket motors. Quote
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