Seto Kaiba Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 1:43 AM, roboemo said: Yes, that one. anything new added to it? My copy rolled in a few moments ago, so I will review it shortly and post a review/comparison for you. Quote
SuperDimensionalDave Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Another Sentinel Legioss just landed on Mandrake if anyone is still searching. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 1:43 AM, roboemo said: Yes, that one. anything new added to it? Hm... Entertainment Archive Alpha: Genesis Climber MOSPEADA File is a bigger book than the previous MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book. I think it's one standard paper size bigger in terms of what it was printed on. The first forty or so actual pages of the book - discounting the introduction and table of contents - are color pages devoted to MOSPEADA's toys and model kits. There's a ~11 page article on Genesis Breaker with the same art we've seen in various promotional materials elsewhere. That's followed by the color art pages for all of the show's mecha lineart, and the print quality is NOTICEABLY inferior to the MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book. I'm baffled as to why the color art is all noticeably yellow-tinged. It's not yellowing of the original art, which would be uneven, they're like tinted yellow for some reason. There's a little more text on them in MOSPEADA File but art itself is printed at just about the same size as in the Complete Art Works book. The line art section has the same weird yellowing problem on its color sections, and the art is printed slightly smaller than it'd been previously in Complete Art Works (apparently to fit eight model sheets onto a page?). Some of the black and white lineart looks inexplicably dirtier in this new book too, and the art shows signs of someone inexpertly photoshopping inventory numbers and other markings off the art that were present in the previous book. Some of the art is helpfully printed in larger sizes than the Complete Art Works book, which makes reading the text handwritten on it easier, but the actual print quality still feels inferior with the uncleaned black specks on many of the pieces. The one advantage MOSPEADA File has is that a lot of art that was previously printed at index card size or smaller in the episode-specific section of Complete Art Works is reprinted larger in this book like Rainy Boy's bike and those of the various motorcycle gangs. The stats are unhelpfully scattered around the sections, mixed with the various normal commentary instead of being called out in specific blocks for easy reference. At the very end it has slightly more preproduction material than Complete Art Works did, but it's nothing new if you've seen the Imai Files. All told, I would say Complete Art Works is probably the better reference book and better quality book overall... but the MOSPEADA File book does have size going for it in terms of the readability of its line art. It's somewhat perplexing that the character bios got left out entirely though. Quote
danth Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 6:50 AM, Kuma Style said: Review up: Nice! No punches pulled. Quote
roboemo Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Hm... Entertainment Archive Alpha: Genesis Climber MOSPEADA File is a bigger book than the previous MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book. I think it's one standard paper size bigger in terms of what it was printed on. The first forty or so actual pages of the book - discounting the introduction and table of contents - are color pages devoted to MOSPEADA's toys and model kits. There's a ~11 page article on Genesis Breaker with the same art we've seen in various promotional materials elsewhere. That's followed by the color art pages for all of the show's mecha lineart, and the print quality is NOTICEABLY inferior to the MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book. I'm baffled as to why the color art is all noticeably yellow-tinged. It's not yellowing of the original art, which would be uneven, they're like tinted yellow for some reason. There's a little more text on them in MOSPEADA File but art itself is printed at just about the same size as in the Complete Art Works book. The line art section has the same weird yellowing problem on its color sections, and the art is printed slightly smaller than it'd been previously in Complete Art Works (apparently to fit eight model sheets onto a page?). Some of the black and white lineart looks inexplicably dirtier in this new book too, and the art shows signs of someone inexpertly photoshopping inventory numbers and other markings off the art that were present in the previous book. Some of the art is helpfully printed in larger sizes than the Complete Art Works book, which makes reading the text handwritten on it easier, but the actual print quality still feels inferior with the uncleaned black specks on many of the pieces. The one advantage MOSPEADA File has is that a lot of art that was previously printed at index card size or smaller in the episode-specific section of Complete Art Works is reprinted larger in this book like Rainy Boy's bike and those of the various motorcycle gangs. The stats are unhelpfully scattered around the sections, mixed with the various normal commentary instead of being called out in specific blocks for easy reference. At the very end it has slightly more preproduction material than Complete Art Works did, but it's nothing new if you've seen the Imai Files. All told, I would say Complete Art Works is probably the better reference book and better quality book overall... but the MOSPEADA File book does have size going for it in terms of the readability of its line art. It's somewhat perplexing that the character bios got left out entirely though. Thanks. To be honest, Complete Art Works seems to be out of print. Edited October 9, 2020 by roboemo Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, roboemo said: To be honest, Complete Art Works seems to be out of print. It'll pop up on Mandarake and other reseller sites from time to time at a reasonable price... just don't humor that insane eBay seller who wants almost three hundred dollars for it. Quote
akim Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Thanks Seto Kaiba for your review. About art quality, it makes me feel sources and materials they had access to were pretty bad... and we can add a bad use of image processing software... So more i see this mook, more this idea appears : print my own personal artbook, with good sources, good materials, like a doujin... But it's just a wish... Quote
Kuma Style Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 7:17 PM, danth said: Nice! No punches pulled. Thanks. Yea, Sentinel has been really iffy with quality over the past 3 or 4 years and now it's at the point where I feel like I just don't get a solid product from them. Quote
sketchley Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, akim said: and we can add a bad use of image processing software... It may not actually be bad software per se, it may just be that the have a monitor improperly setup, and they colour corrected the images to what their monitor shows, not what the artwork actually looks like when printed. (The opposite extreme is their scanner "colour corrected" the images, and no one bothered to colour correct the scans.) Another possibility is the printers getting the ink mixture wrong (or the ink balance was slipping in the part of the batch you guys got). So many simple things can muck up graphic design and printing. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 10 hours ago, sketchley said: So many simple things can muck up graphic design and printing. True, but regardless of which one (or combination thereof) was responsible, it's still weird and slightly upsetting that nobody seems to have reviewed a proof copy of this book before it went to market... the yellowness of the color art isn't subtle. It's eye-catching and looks really really bad. Quote
Convectuoso Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 11:38 PM, Kuma Style said: Someone copied Kuma's pic and posted it as a drawing Quote
sqidd Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Convectuoso said: Someone copied Kuma's pic and posted it as a drawing They "sampled" it. Quote
505thAirborne Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 Hi all, possible dumb question here but can the Sentinel Legioss hold the Gunpod as you see in my picture? So far I've only seen pics of this new Legioss one-handing it. Quote
505thAirborne Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 4 hours ago, jenius said: Not very naturally I'm guessing those arms need to be a bit longer for that pose to happen properly. Quote
tekering Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said: I'm guessing those arms need to be a bit longer for that pose to happen properly. No, the Sentinel can pull off that pose no problem... Maybe @jenius needs longer arms. Quote
jenius Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Still looks awkward to me... Edited October 12, 2020 by jenius Quote
DewPoint Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Resisting the urge to nitpick.... Edited October 12, 2020 by DewPoint Quote
RavenHawk Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Convectuoso said: Someone copied Kuma's pic and posted it as a drawing That's what we call "copyright infringement" Quote
sqidd Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, RavenHawk said: That's what we call "copyright infringement" Tell that to the rap industry. Also, it's not. https://onlineartrights.org/issues/sampling-and-appropriation/ Edited October 12, 2020 by sqidd Quote
RavenHawk Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, sqidd said: Tell that to the rap industry. Also, it's not. https://onlineartrights.org/issues/sampling-and-appropriation/ I would disagree. That was not sampling, that was appropriation of an entire work, nothing transformative about it, full appropriation and misrepresentation. I have literally pursued near-identical cases for clients... ... but I don't want to get into a rant. Not the right thread for it. Quote
sqidd Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RavenHawk said: I would disagree. That was not sampling, that was appropriation of an entire work, nothing transformative about it, full appropriation and misrepresentation. I have literally pursued near-identical cases for clients... ... but I don't want to get into a rant. Not the right thread for it. Word games. Edited October 12, 2020 by sqidd Quote
jenius Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, sqidd said: Word games. Stick to the thread topic... See what I did there... Stick. That's word games. Quote
danth Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 13 hours ago, tekering said: No, the Sentinel can pull off that pose no problem... 13 hours ago, jenius said: Still looks awkward to me... Combine Jenius's right arm pose and Tekering's left arm pose and it might look pretty good. (Right/left of the Armo Soldier, not the viewer). Quote
Mog Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, jenius said: Stick to the thread topic... See what I did there... Stick. That's word games. Should that be STICK or STIG? It's a good thing the MW boards are not ruled by a merciless REY, because we'd all be FUKE'd, issued YELLOW card warnings, and would probably have to pay a huge MINT of a fine. Quote
danth Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, Mog said: Should that be STICK or STIG? It's a good thing the MW boards are not ruled by a merciless REY, because we'd all be FUKE'd, issued YELLOW card warnings, and would probably have to pay a huge MINT of a fine. That would blow in a most superior way. Quote
Convectuoso Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Kuma Style said: Regardless of all of that conjecture, thank you to the poster who let me know so that I could shoot him a message You're welcome. I just thought you needed to know Quote
Glasswave Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Question: Are there any Legioss models that have intakes that might even approximately fit the CM's Legioss ? Ps aware of the limited upgrade set: just don't want to spend $1200 lol Quote
tekering Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Glasswave said: Are there any Legioss models that have intakes that might even approximately fit the CM's Legioss ? The Aoshima 1:48 variable Legioss kits are about the same size as the CMs, the Toynami, and the Sentinel. They are cheap and plentiful. I imagine upgrading your CMs toy would require far more than just the intakes, however... Quote
Glasswave Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, tekering said: The Aoshima 1:48 variable Legioss kits are about the same size as the CMs, the Toynami, and the Sentinel. They are cheap and plentiful. I imagine upgrading your CMs toy would require far more than just the intakes, however... Many thanks I'll definitely invest in one! And lol indeed, they have several shortcomings; but the intakes are my only unforgivable "gripe". Thanks again man! Quote
Convectuoso Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/en/auction/yahoo/input/n403509543/lgk-link_search CM's Legioss & Tread combo with Special Upgrade Parts Just saying Quote
lavinrac Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 The CM's is the one I think I have. Didn't they offer up a set of new, better intakes? I failed to purchase those. Has anyone done a 3D printer version? Also. that got me thinking. The Aoshima/Toynami (they are same/similar no?) Tread.. One of you guys has made an adaptor for putting that Tread on the Sentinel Legioss. Any plans for an adaptor from Sentinel to CMs tread? I only have the CMs but it looks close enough to try. Quote
Kuma Style Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Convectuoso said: https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/en/auction/yahoo/input/n403509543/lgk-link_search CM's Legioss & Tread combo with Special Upgrade Parts Just saying How good IS the CMS? My experience with their products is so hit/miss and generally dated but I'd like to start adding more Legioss variants at very least. Quote
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