eriku Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Got mine today, I'll get the bad stuff out of the way first: same stress marks on the ankles and bent fin as Tekering. Hinge for the folding shoulder panel is broken off on one side. Inside of front landing bay door has some kind of brown smear on it. Hands are straight up awful with removable fingers that don't stay on and when they ARE on the arm panels can't close fully (please tell me I'm doing something wrong) The tiny hinged panels with a peg & hole that hold the legs together in fighter mode seem kind of poorly designed and I don't trust them to withstand much use. The ratchet on the right 'boob' has too much play between teeth which can make for a 'saggy boob' at times. Plastic has that cheap almost polystyrene quality that doesn't instill confidence in a long life. Now, good stuff: It looks amazing in all modes. Even the finish, while not as premium as Arcadia or Bandai, looks pretty nice when its on the shelf. Fighter mode DOES hold together snugly enough for swooshing and barrel rolls, although it could still be improved Articulation is plentiful and even the head has a wide range of motion. Joints all feel robust enough where I have no worry about them failing. Size is pretty much perfect, not to small and not too big. Paint is all very clean and neatly applied Transformation isn't muddled by any kind of attempt to try something new, it's tried and true Legioss transformation which means its simple and it works Despite what feels like cheap plastic, it does manage to feel solid enough in robot mode to invite handling and posing. Verdict? I'm happy with it overall. I was expecting much worse, and of course I would like it to be on an upper tier like Arcadia and Bandai toys but as Tekering said, it really is the best Legioss toy we've gotten so far (not saying much, I know). That said, I would not recommend it AT ALL to the casual connoisseur. If you have a mild interest, move along or wait for a super clearance sale. If you desperately love the Legioss and are able to look past the shortcomings, I think you can find some satisfaction here. Edited November 23, 2017 by eriku Quote
tekering Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, eriku said: Hands are straight up awful with removable fingers that don't stay on and when they ARE on the arm panels can't close fully (please tell me I'm doing something wrong) You're doing something wrong. Just rotate the hand at the wrist so that the palm faces up, and the panel will close over it with no problem. Quote
eriku Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, tekering said: You're doing something wrong. Just rotate the hand at the wrist so that the palm faces up, and the panel will close over it with no problem. Thanks, I had tried that but it didn't work. I tried again just now and found that it has to be in exactly the right position to work. If it's off even a hair to either side the panel won't close or will sheer the fingers off. Oh well, at least it's possible. Are the fingers so loose on yours? I'm constantly having to pick up the fingers because any movement of the hands makes them come off. I'm sorely tempted to just cut the peg off the palms and glue the fingers on. Quote
tekering Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, eriku said: Are the fingers so loose on yours? I'm constantly having to pick up the fingers because any movement of the hands makes them come off. Not at all. Mine are quite secure; so much so that I wouldn't have considered the need for glue. Of course, since my Eta will only ever wield his gun in his right hand, I'd have no problems gluing the fingers of the left hand to their peg. It certainly wouldn't affect their articulation. Quote
Kinzoku VF Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Must admit it looks good next to the 1/60. Aesthetically, aside from looking a bit bare, it's not too bad .Wonder if it'll stand the test of time after a few transformations though. But still too many flaws for current retail price. With a bit a luck, the price will get cut. Not sure I'd want to pay more than ¥17000 for it. For once, I managed to control my 'urges'. Hadn't pod it when it was announced (a first for me). Shame Bandai/Arcadia/Fewture etc don't seem interested in doing a 'proper' one....I mean after all the versions that came out up until now, you'd think it wouldn't be too complicated to come up with a good design/materials etc.....who knows....might happen one day. Quote
tekering Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Kinzoku VF said: Aesthetically, aside from looking a bit bare, it's not too bad. A few well-placed stickers can make a big difference...! Quote
seti88 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Lots of pics in the end of https://ameblo.jp/digitamin/entry-12330852375.html And .... Edited November 24, 2017 by seti88 Quote
tekering Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Ooh, a "Jota" type! That's new! ...No wait, it's not. It's just typical Japanese signage. But see how much better they look with stickers? Quote
eriku Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Hmmm...looking at the pics of the red and green, and at Tekering's pics again, I'm thinking the hinge for the shoulder panel isn't actually broken on mine and is just designed that way because they all look like mine do. Quote
north-exit Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Looks like the Legioss just can't catch a break in the toy world. I understand the manufacturing process; small companies, production costs blah, blah, blah. But even with a hefty discount, it strongly appears that Evolution Toys' Legioss will still be overpriced; its weaknesses/QC issues not pertaining. Totally get some hardcore types will drop their dough on this; I seriously dig the Legioss design myself. But for the moment I'll be sticking with the model kits and pretend this toy doesn't exist. Edited November 27, 2017 by north-exit Quote
JetJockey Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 11:29 AM, seti88 said: Next up from evo... That's awesome. It's time to watch my New Generation VHS tapes again. Now for that Rook cyclone. Quote
tekering Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 I prefer the closed intakes for Armo-soldier mode: On 11/24/2017 at 6:54 PM, seti88 said: ...with the stickers, of course. Now bring on the pre-orders, already! Quote
eriku Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 Solved my hand problem by snipping the pegs off that secure the gunpod and gluing the fingers on. Even without the peg the hands hold the gunpod very securely. Now that I've spent a couple more days with this thing and fixed the hands I am pretty satisfied with it. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Aesthetics aside, I really like all my CM's Legioss. They have some weird proportions here and there, yes, they don't lock together in fighter mode very well, yes. But they are nicely build, have great surface details, nice panel lines and tampo, and you can drop them and nothing will break, the plastic used is very good. How would you ET owners that also have the CM's compare the build and plastic quality? Edited November 26, 2017 by Ignacio Ocamica Quote
Dobber Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 Air the air intakes replaceable or is there a mechanism that closes them up between soldier mode and fighter mode. Chris Quote
eriku Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dobber said: Air the air intakes replaceable or is there a mechanism that closes them up between soldier mode and fighter mode. Chris The light blue chest parts are swappable. Edited November 26, 2017 by eriku Quote
jenius Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 Ha, nice. I used to have fun with my CM's Legioss toys in similar ways: Quote
Dobber Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, tekering said: Whoa, cool picture. Excellent use of perspective. Chris Quote
RavenHawk Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 11 hours ago, tekering said: Gorgeous pic! Nice work! I actually am still filling out my CM's ride armor collection, and just picked up the regular green Ley over the weekend (previously only had the three black ride armors and the Jonathan and solider pack). Really reminded me what great little figures those are, with a really decent transformation. More fiddly than Megahouse, sure, but way better in my opinion. Quote
Slave IV Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 1:54 AM, Sam said: looking good! the arms seem locked together better here, and dunno if my imagination but seems the two soldiers are showing off the two intake styles... btw that god phoenix, is it up for pre order anywhere? I know the fewture one has sold out on hlj but this is the one i'm after with the removable g vehicles! Great pics from everyone, thanks for sharing! I still can't bring myself to buy one even though it's one of my most wanted mechas. Another one that is top on my want list is a good God Phoenix so ditto the question and if anyone has any info on this new one? Is it that crazy overpriced, oversized Ex Gokin one? Quote
optimuspint Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Two of them broken right out of the box.... Quote
RavenHawk Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 For anyone interested, I got an email today that the new Aoshima ride armor models (a new run of their old ones, which I think were a re-run of the Imai models) are in at HLJ (and, for anyone who didn't preorder, they're listed as backordered now). Quote
woll622 Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Thanks for the video post optimuspint. Not happy about that review, I just cancelled my preorder. I’ll wait to see if they come out with a version 2 to fix the issues. Otherwise, I’ll save my money for the ride armors coming out in January and February. Quote
505thAirborne Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, optimuspint said: Two of them broken right out of the box.... If you took a shot of booze every time these guys say "$hite", you'd be super plastered!! Edited November 29, 2017 by 505thAirborne Quote
tekering Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, woll622 said: Not happy about that review YouTube is full of amateurish crap like that, I'm afraid. They obviously don't know what they're doing. They mis-aligned the cockpit in Armo-Soldier mode, they mis-transformed the wings... hell, they can't even pronounce "Legioss." 1 minute ago, 505thAirborne said: If you took a shot of booze every time these guys say "$hite", you'd be super plastered!! Not as plastered as they appeared to be. Still waiting for a professional reviewer (like Jenius at Anymoon.com) for a proper critique. Quote
jenius Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I got mine just as I was walking out the door for a business trip so I may not be able to get mine on the tube this weekend... Looking forward to putting it through some trials though. Hmm might be able to use it as a test for my new camera. Quote
505thAirborne Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 40 minutes ago, tekering said: Not as plastered as they appeared to be. Still waiting for a professional reviewer (like Jenius at Anymoon.com) for a proper critique. Definitely waiting for Collection DX & Jenius! Quote
Drad Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I, for one, appreciate the effort and expense that Randy and Brian of KNERDOUT went through to give us their opinions on the product. Thanks, guys. Quote
no3Ljm Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, tekering said: YouTube is full of amateurish crap like that, I'm afraid. They obviously don't know what they're doing. They mis-aligned the cockpit in Armo-Soldier mode, they mis-transformed the wings... hell, they can't even pronounce "Legioss." Not as plastered as they appeared to be. Still waiting for a professional reviewer (like Jenius at Anymoon.com) for a proper critique. I think once in awhile it's nice to hear some 'exaggerated' reviews on how crappy the toy that they're reviewing. And I don't think they're amateurish since from what I've seen on their videos they do have lots of toy collection so I'm sure they know what they're talking about. And aside from that, I think they're consistent to what most of us feel on EvoToys kahen figures, that for the said price, the materials used look cheap compared to other companies. (I'm looking at you, Evo VF-2SS.) And same here, looking forward on Jenius or CollectionDX review for Legioss. And while waiting for those said reviews, I'm checking sites if they're already putting this on clearance for the upcoming Christmas. But kidding aside, I really wanted a good Legioss figure in my life. Quote
Drad Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I read something about an upcoming release by Sentinel. Are they going to be trying their hand at the Legioss? Quote
Convectuoso Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Drad said: I read something about an upcoming release by Sentinel. Are they going to be trying their hand at the Legioss? Just a new design of the Ride Armors. Quote
Axelay Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Wow. Harsh review. I am extremely curious to see what jenius has to say about this. Quote
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