Mospeada

[Mog]

Yeah, just a little punchy.

I have my gripes and nits about the Sentinel toys.  But overall, they’re a pretty damn good Mospeada set.  You got renditions of all four of the main characters in their ride armors.  Despite the updated interpretation, there’s not too many questionable deviations from the original designs.

They made some incredible modifications to the transformation process for the Legioss, making it compact and locked in fighter mode but with solid joints for armo-soldier mode.  

AND they did some nice design improvements with the upcoming Tread.

CM’s probably has the larger spread of Mospeada toys out there.  But they’ve got those breakage issues for the bikes; non-turning heads, the tailfins that don’t completely hide for combo mode, and other issues with the Legioss; and that utterly horrible combined fighter-bomber look for the Legioss-Tread.

[davidwhangchoi]

2 hours ago, Mog said:

And who the hell is Lancer? 

Lancer is a guy (not a girl) and has a green blooded girlfriend named Sera.

He ends up betraying REF and killing veritech fighter pilots saving the Invid who enslaved the earth.. 

 

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36 minutes ago, jenius said:

CM's is these little guys, 1/18 scale:

They're pretty small:

I don't think we need to delve into Robotech shaming in this thread... leave that for the Macross thread where HG has done far more substantial damage. 

I appreciate your kindness, patience, and willingness to educate.  🙂  I've been a loyal fan of MW from the very beginning, but I haven't always paid close enough attention to the "culture" and rules of each board here.  I've been a more regular contributor lately, and I think I'm finally getting the gist of the boards/threads I track, but I'm going to make another absent-minded mistake at some point.  I guarantee it.

And I've had plenty of CMs.  I've gone through multiple "cyclone phases" where I bought everything I could find only to hear my wife (who's an engineer and mecha fan) ask the question, "Don't you have like 10 of those already?"  🙂  I just point to her shoe closet and peace is restored.

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20 minutes ago, Mog said:

Yeah, just a little punchy.

I have my gripes and nits about the Sentinel toys.  But overall, they’re a pretty damn good Mospeada set.  You got renditions of all four of the main characters in their ride armors.  Despite the updated interpretation, there’s not too many questionable deviations from the original designs.

They made some incredible modifications to the transformation process for the Legioss, making it compact and locked in fighter mode but with solid joints for armo-soldier mode.  

AND they did some nice design improvements with the upcoming Tread.

CM’s probably has the larger spread of Mospeada toys out there.  But they’ve got those breakage issues for the bikes; non-turning heads, the tailfins that don’t completely hide for combo mode, and other issues with the Legioss; and that utterly horrible combined fighter-bomber look for the Legioss-Tread.

I thought it was humorous and didn't take any offense.  If there was any concern.  I was multitasking when composing my post and I probably didn't try hard enough to match your humor and tone.  It's 2:00 AM here.  Let's blame it on fatigue.  🙂  But thank you as well for adding to jenius' contribution!

I'm really looking forward to the Tread.  I was so very disappointed by the Masterpiece versions. 

[Mog]

I still have a poop-ton of respect for the old MPC Beta.  Solid ratchet-joints galore.  A cockpit and pilot in the same scale as the Alpha.  The combined fighter looking like a cohesive connected unit.  

Even the bloody stickers were superior to what Yamato was churning out for the 1/48 VF-1’s!  (Most of the NO STEPS and smaller stickers from Yamato had a gauzy look to them.  The Beta’s were much clearer.)

Yes, they compromised with just folding down the cockpit for battloid mode.  Yes, there’s no top shoulder missiles.  And there’s large gaps in bomber mode.

But it’s still been the best version of the Tread/Beta for the past 15+ years.

[jenius]

As much as I'm not a fan of the CM's Legioss, their Tread was much better. Of course, since half the fun is connecting the Tread to the Legioss, the CM's Tread was handicapped. Oh boy, I must have had a lot more free time when I dug everything out to take this picture! Needless to say, I am REALLY looking forward to the Sentinel. 

[Mog]

Well, getting a mythical Lansay Tread is a special enough occasion to bust all of those Treads/Betas out.

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10 hours ago, jenius said:

As much as I'm not a fan of the CM's Legioss, their Tread was much better. Of course, since half the fun is connecting the Tread to the Legioss, the CM's Tread was handicapped. Oh boy, I must have had a lot more free time when I dug everything out to take this picture! Needless to say, I am REALLY looking forward to the Sentinel. 

That is impressive! 

[shazam]

16 hours ago, jenius said:

You need to update your photo with the Moshow Toys figure next to these figures.

[Mommar]

20 hours ago, Mog said:

CM’s probably has the larger spread of Mospeada toys out there.  But they’ve got those breakage issues for the bikes;

Sentinel has it's own share of issues there too though.

[Mog]

4 minutes ago, Mommar said:

Sentinel has it's own share of issues there too though.

 

Umm, pretty sure I've pointed out Sentinel's issues over the years and in recent posts:

20 hours ago, Mog said:

I have my gripes and nits about the Sentinel toys. 

 

On 3/5/2025 at 10:38 AM, Mog said:

Ask for pics of the grey joints that swivel the bike armor under the armpits.  Those have been the trouble spots, regardless of it being an original or reissue.

A good chunk of folks have had that particular joint get cracked on their copies.

Might want to also look at the grey torso, as paint chipping can occur from putting the armor on and off the figure.

 

 

[Mommar]

1 minute ago, Mog said:

 

Umm, pretty sure I've pointed out Sentinel's issues over the years and in recent posts:

 

 

 

Paint chipping is a gripe/nit pick.  Widespread breakage is a legitimate engineering issue that isn't being address.

[Shawn]

Whilst rummaging through some boxes, I came across my Mospeada LS 1/100 kits. The artwork was done by Toshimitsu Suzuki from Artmic, same artist who did the Imai 1/48 kits and the recent $7k poster that sold last week.
Just wanted to share in one spot so you could appreciate these mini boxes for the amazing art, my favorite is the 01H fighter (blue).
 

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32 minutes ago, Shawn said:

Whilst rummaging through some boxes, I came across my Mospeada LS 1/100 kits. The artwork was done by Toshimitsu Suzuki from Artmic, same artist who did the Imai 1/48 kits and the recent $7k poster that sold last week.
Just wanted to share in one spot so you could appreciate these mini boxes for the amazing art, my favorite is the 01H fighter (blue).
 

I don't know, Shawn.  I have a hard time picking a favorite.  All of mine are in remote offsite storage so I don't know if I've got complete sets myself.  I run a manufacturing LLC on the side, and at one time I thought to reproduce these kits (with important improvements) just for myself.  Still haven't gotten around to it yet.  But my 3D scanner is at the ready when I finally resume the project.

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21 hours ago, Mog said:

I still have a poop-ton of respect for the old MPC Beta.  Solid ratchet-joints galore.  A cockpit and pilot in the same scale as the Alpha.  The combined fighter looking like a cohesive connected unit.  

Even the bloody stickers were superior to what Yamato was churning out for the 1/48 VF-1’s!  (Most of the NO STEPS and smaller stickers from Yamato had a gauzy look to them.  The Beta’s were much clearer.)

Yes, they compromised with just folding down the cockpit for battloid mode.  Yes, there’s no top shoulder missiles.  And there’s large gaps in bomber mode.

But it’s still been the best version of the Tread/Beta for the past 15+ years.

Related, but unrelated, I've always viewed the legioss-tread as a singular mecha owing to the fact that my introduction to both was a piece of artwork highlighting their union.  Is there an official term for their combined form?  I'm drawing a blank.

And what do we call multiple legioss fighters?  Legiosses?  Legiossi?  My mind's ear is begging me to use the term "alphas" because the formers sound so strange.

Questions inspired by my friend Jack Daniels.

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grammar

[Perxion]

New pictures for the Tread Sentinel here:

https://ameblo.jp/sen-ti-nel-info/entry-12864467958.html

[tekering]

2 hours ago, Perxion said:

New pictures for the Tread Sentinel here:

Lots, yeah!  This one's my favorite:

[Shawn]

For some reason this reminds me of the ending of Aliens, with the Queen spearing Bishop
Can we add a virtual tail to the tread? (Did I make this comment before, cause I'm getting deja vu lol)

[Reni]

Love these images.  Around $1000 of plastic and die cast metal there. 

[Mog]

And minimal paint apps on those pilots and bikes.

. . . And hot pink Houquet. 🤮

. . . And no articulation on the Tread pilot for some odd reason.

But it is nice to see them all in flying formation.

[davidwhangchoi]

i need those bonus missiles now seeing they go on both fighters 

[Mog]

I got bitter about the initial Japan-only offer for the missiles and started looking into other alternatives to arm the Tread and potentially the Legioss too. 

[26662]

1 hour ago, Mog said:

I got bitter about the initial Japan-only offer for the missiles and started looking into other alternatives to arm the Tread and potentially the Legioss too. 

I’ll 3D scan, model, and print sets shortly after I have them in hand

[Robin-11]

1 hour ago, 26662 said:

I’ll 3D scan, model, and print sets shortly after I have them in hand

Great idea, I would buy two sets immediately. I am sure you will sell lots and lots of them  

[davidwhangchoi]

2 hours ago, Mog said:

I got bitter about the initial Japan-only offer for the missiles and started looking into other alternatives to arm the Tread and potentially the Legioss too. 

me too, i was about to order it from the Riobot Store that was linked here but the amazon listing was so convenient and with the super low pricing plus their return service in case anything is broken from factory.  not having to worry about return shipping was a big plus over the missiles. 

Edited March 17 by davidwhangchoi

[MechTech]

@Shawn Consider this a "LIKE"!

Aha! So those (now defunct) LS brand model kits/molds (which I have never seen before - THANK YOU!) must have been bought by Imai who sold them as 1/72nd scale. I knew they were 1/100th, the pilot is way too small! I only recently heard of LS as I bought a TINY model of the BD-5 by them at a hobby convention. It's all starting to come together now! Thank you again! - MT

[Big s]

On 3/17/2025 at 8:43 AM, Shawn said:

For some reason this reminds me of the ending of Aliens, with the Queen spearing Bishop
Can we add a virtual tail to the tread? (Did I make this comment before, cause I'm getting deja vu lol)

Reminds me of that episode in Brickleberry where Malloy got used 

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On 1/17/2025 at 6:49 PM, rsvictor1976 said:

The real magic is the stand...

In case you’re wondering, the base takes up an entire Detolf shelf.

I've had mine for over a month now and I still can't get over how amazing this figure is.  And for less than $200: The price doesn't make any sense to me.  I'd buy a couple more to customize if it weren't for all of my other preorders. 

Edit:  Belay my last.  BBTS allows for pay later with a small deposit so I'm going to pick up a couple more.  If I let this figure/deal escape me, I just know that I'm going to be kicking myself later when I'm paying the late tax.

Edited March 19 by 26662

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On 3/15/2025 at 2:42 AM, Mog said:

But it’s still been the best version of the Tread/Beta for the past 15+ years.

I don't disagree.  I see the legioss/tread as a package deal, and I'm afraid my dissatisfaction with the MPC legioss portion is what's responsible for my negging the MPC tread earlier.  I should've recognized the MPC tread's merits on its own.  Fair point.  🙂

[26662]

Grabbed this image from AnyMoon (https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=13609#more-13609).

If this isn’t a prototype or test shot built for promotion, anyone know what became of this one?  Love the color scheme.

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[jenius]

It was a test shot of what became the blue toy.

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5 hours ago, jenius said:

It was a test shot of what became the blue toy.

Shoot.  That’s too bad.  I like their complementary colors.  Made me think we were a couple years into the war and I was seeing fighters that had been cobbled together using parts from totaled mecha.  Actually, that gives me ideas!

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[26662]

3 hours ago, 26662 said:

Shoot.  That’s too bad.  I like their complementary colors.  Made me think we were a couple years into the war and I was seeing fighters that had been cobbled together using parts from totaled mecha.  Actually, that gives me ideas!

I'm gonna run with this idea and add a dash of GI Joe.  I'll create two fighters with complementary color schemes and call them Xamot and Tomax.

[26662]

I just watched an 11-year old YouTube video of someone building a 1/72 Legioss Fighter model kit.  But what caught my eye was a comment that described a Monogram model kit of Go-Bots Leader-1 that was based off the Legioss.  I figured the commenter was full of it.  Nope:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296133515473?chn=ps&google_free_listing_action=view_item

We have definitive connections between Macross and Transformers and Mospeada and Go-Bots.  Anyone know of a connection between Southern Cross and another IP?  The Mighty Orbots?  🙂

I was aware of the Cy-Kill/Cyclone model kit, but somehow the Leader-1 escaped me.

 

Edited March 20 by 26662

[tekering]

11 hours ago, 26662 said:

Anyone know of a connection between Southern Cross and another IP? 

EXO-Squad, of course. 😉