jenius Posted November 22 Posted November 22 4 minutes ago, Mog said: Is it bad that I’m already looking for alternate missiles and weapons to mount to the Tread? 😬 I think the extra mounts are a pretty clear indication that they're leaving the door open for future accessory sets. They did that on the Legioss too though and nothing has come of it. Quote
daBlah! Posted November 22 Posted November 22 I see on the listings for the Legioss it's stating a redesign on the transformation: Quote With a redesigned transformation mechanism, this figure achieves a unique and smooth transformation process Is that true? Any further details on the redesign? Quote
Mog Posted November 22 Posted November 22 I think they’re referring to how they redesigned the Legioss/Alpha transformation process compared to other earlier versions from other companies. I doubt they’d change the Legioss now without spelling out exactly what they changed from their own prior releases. Quote
DownIsUp Posted November 22 Posted November 22 Hey, for those of us who have ordered the store exclusive set from the sentinel store via proxy, does sentinel charge upfront, or will they ask for payment when the item ships? I'm thinking of using tenso to pick the TREAD up Quote
no3Ljm Posted November 23 Posted November 23 2 minutes ago, DownIsUp said: Hey, for those of us who have ordered the store exclusive set from the sentinel store via proxy, does sentinel charge upfront, or will they ask for payment when the item ships? I'm thinking of using tenso to pick the TREAD up From what I remember, Proxy site does indeed charge you upfront for the product item and for their service fee. Domestic shipping on the other hand is towards the end if the shipping wasn't paid during the initial placement of order. And lastly, the International Shipping prior of shipping it to you. Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted November 23 Posted November 23 10 minutes ago, DownIsUp said: Hey, for those of us who have ordered the store exclusive set from the sentinel store via proxy, does sentinel charge upfront, or will they ask for payment when the item ships? I'm thinking of using tenso to pick the TREAD up FromJapan asked for my payment upfront, so I guessing the Sentinel store asked for payment upfront as well. Quote
Knuckles7173 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Realised I had store credits with NNG, so decided to go ahead with them. I can do without the darn missiles. Probably 3D print some of them on my own later on. Quote
Froy Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Yikes 340 at Big Bad Toys https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/299018?o=4 Quote
DewPoint Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Hobby Genki ¥43,890.00 RIOBOT Armored Genesis Climber MOSPEADA 1/48 AB-01H Tread I'm not sure yet if I'm going to buy now or wait a bit. Quote
MKT Posted November 23 Posted November 23 For the reissue Legioss, there is a very minor change. In the Sentinel blog post, they mentioned (highlights my own): which should be this: On 11/22/2024 at 2:48 PM, Mog said: Wonder why they're making the Tread pilot "not movable," when they demonstrated that the "movable" blue one fits just fine. This is quite puzzling & hopefully it’s some sort of mis-translation. Gluing the figure together is just more work at factory, and for customers it is gonna make painting it more difficult. But it is also possible the figure will be a new single molded piece. In which case it still kinda suck that it will be monotone instead of painted at factory. Quote
no3Ljm Posted November 23 Posted November 23 10 hours ago, MKT said: This is quite puzzling & hopefully it’s some sort of mis-translation. Gluing the figure together is just more work at factory, and for customers it is gonna make painting it more difficult. But it is also possible the figure will be a new single molded piece. In which case it still kinda suck that it will be monotone instead of painted at factory. I believe the figure will not be 'glued' to the canopy. The 'non-movable' figure is a fixed posed that only comes with the Tread. The movable one is the one that came with Legioss. Sentinel also mentioned that you can use the said 'movable' figure to the Tread. And sad to say, it's still going to be monotone like the ones from Legioss releases. From Sentinel's Blog: https://ameblo.jp/sen-ti-nel-info/entry-12864467958.html Not only can you see the pilot inside through the canopy at the nose, but you can also open the bottom and lower the cockpit seat. A pilot figure (non-movable) for the Tread is included, and can ride in the cockpit seat. Additionally, the pilot figures that come with each Legioss can also be seated in the cockpit seat. In the image, the Legioss Iota pilot figure is seated inside. *Not included with this product. Quote
Mog Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) Between making the figure fixed pose, putting the missiles behind a Japan-only paywall/hoop, not adding extra missiles to utilize the remaining Tread and Legioss hardpoints, and the definitely higher price, it feels like Sentinel is short-changing us a bit. No doubt I love the improvements in the design, the integrated connecting boom, all the tricks done with the cockpit, and the getting rid of all the gaps found in Toynami’s Beta’s design (particularly in standalone bomber mode). And I’m hoping and praying that we still got solid ratchet joints for all the key areas. But the old customizer in me is already itching and searching to give the beast the weapons it deserves. Edited November 23 by Mog Quote
jenius Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Yep, seems the non movable pilot is just a cost saving measure. I wouldn't doubt that sentinel is holding back on several accessories with the thought that, should sales of this toy be good enough to warrant a green version, those accessories will help sell the less popular color. Either that or sentinel will start showing up at conventions with exclusive accessory kits that we'll all be scrambling to find some way to buy. Quote
Mog Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I get the business the reasons for doing it. But kinda annoying when they already have an articulated pilot mold they can reuse. And if they still wanted to be cheap, they could just reuse Stig’s bike mold for Rey’s. The bad news for Sentinel is that I have a small arsenal of missiles from Yamato Valks that are just sitting around collecting dust. Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted November 23 Posted November 23 16 hours ago, DewPoint said: Hobby Genki ¥43,890.00 RIOBOT Armored Genesis Climber MOSPEADA 1/48 AB-01H Tread I'm not sure yet if I'm going to buy now or wait a bit. damn... no missiles Quote
Mommar Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Looks like I showed up to the party after all the food was eaten. No missiles for me. Quote
Big s Posted November 23 Posted November 23 11 minutes ago, Mommar said: Looks like I showed up to the party after all the food was eaten. No missiles for me. Unless you wanna pay the bbts price Quote
Mommar Posted November 23 Posted November 23 7 minutes ago, Big s said: Unless you wanna pay the bbts price The bbts listing doesn't show the missles. Quote
Froy Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) Keep an eye on Nin-nin. They may show extras, at a slightly increased price and pay upfront tho. Edited November 23 by Froy Quote
Lolicon Posted November 23 Posted November 23 1 hour ago, Mommar said: Looks like I showed up to the party after all the food was eaten. No missiles for me. You can still order via proxy. Bought mine for 43800 with a coupon code. Quote
manfred17 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 For the size of this Thread, Sentinel could have designed fully articulated hands. Also missiles should be included by default, for this price, without considering the notion of "store exclusive" or not "store exclusive". Quote
Mommar Posted November 24 Posted November 24 3 hours ago, Lolicon said: You can still order via proxy. Bought mine for 43800 with a coupon code. Yeah, but I can't drop nearly $600 for two of these a month from Christmas. Quote
Lolicon Posted November 24 Posted November 24 29 minutes ago, Mommar said: Yeah, but I can't drop nearly $600 for two of these a month from Christmas. You have until March 17th to order from the Sentinel shop. Quote
DownIsUp Posted November 24 Posted November 24 I will also note! I ordered from the Sentinel shop recently, using a tenso warehouse address. If you pay with credit/debit then the charge will come shortly before the item ships, not right now. Just use a proxy that let's you pay directly instead of through them Quote
jenius Posted November 24 Posted November 24 I feel like the exchange rate is pretty good right now so I don't mind paying in advance. Still waiting patiently for more listings at the usual stores so I can determine the best price for a Legioss reissue. Quote
Big s Posted November 24 Posted November 24 3 hours ago, Mommar said: Yeah, but I can't drop nearly $600 for two of these a month from Christmas. I couldn’t even afford one personally. I’m gonna have to hold out hope that moderoid does well enough with their kits that they eventually get around to this design Quote
sh9000 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 For anyone who missed the TLEAD with missiles at Nin-Nin-Game, sign up for their email notification to know when it is available to order again. They have private warehouse and pay later options. The payment is due on 7/14. They also have a point system that can be redeemed for vouchers. I currently have a voucher for 8113 JPY making my order come out to 42268 JPY. Quote
Mommar Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Those missiles aren't worth the extra effort IMO. It was stupid for them to even be considered an "exclusive." Not to mention there aren't enough for all of the hardpoints they included on their own product. Quote
MKT Posted November 24 Posted November 24 (edited) Pilot & missiles aside, I love the whole transformation scheme they have detailed so far. Quite some thought have been put in to execute & solve the bugbears of earlier efforts from other companies, without sacrificing any looks. I hope it feels better in hand than the Legioss that in hindsight can be somewhat fiddly. I love that the Tread's landing gears are integrated, and beefy metal ones too that I wish were also used for the Legioss. Edited November 24 by MKT Quote
Mog Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Totally agree on those points. They solved the whole cockpit/chest issue without making the pilot smaller. And they added two different ways for the cockpit to open. Shoulder missile bays and chest missile bays are present. I mentioned ad nauseam about this Tread being less gappy. Practically everything has been integrated into the bomber itself. If they make sure the joints are solid and/or ratcheted, this will definitely be the worthy successor. At this point, we DON’T have a YF-21 situation. Quote
sh9000 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 https://animelosangeles.org/project/shinji-aramaki-guest-of-honor/ https://animelosangeles.org/project/keiichiro-maeno-guest-of-honor/ Shinji Aramaki and Keichiro Maeno at Anime Los Angeles. This would be awesome to attend. Quote
MKT Posted November 24 Posted November 24 32 minutes ago, Mog said: At this point, we DON’T have a YF-21 situation. Precisely this. So glad they don’t have to compromise anything on the sculpt. On FB, the designer for this Tread toy Keiichiro Maeno has posted he will be at Anime Los Angeles in January next year. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1A4Ba1xfk3/?mibextid=K35XfP He actually just left T-REX to set up his own firm, but whilst he was there he also designed all the Sentinel Mospeada stuff, & his work goes back all the way to the Beagle Ride Armors. In the comments section he also mentioned being involved with the Yamato SDF-1 & the YF-21 (should be the 1/60) as well. Quote
DewPoint Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I ordered the Tread from Hobby Genki. FedEx shipping 6790 yen. By boat was 4000 yen (about 3 months). EMS was the most expensive at over 10,000 yen. Quote
Bolt Posted November 25 Posted November 25 8 hours ago, sh9000 said: https://animelosangeles.org/project/shinji-aramaki-guest-of-honor/ https://animelosangeles.org/project/keiichiro-maeno-guest-of-honor/ Shinji Aramaki and Keichiro Maeno at Anime Los Angeles. This would be awesome to attend. Wow. Awesome! Quote
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