Kuma Style Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Copying and pasting what I wrote on another board: "New "So... got this thing transformed tonight. Honestly, the transformation itself is really quick and more straightforward than the instructions seem. The problem comes when you actually have it together because sooooo much keeps falling apart. the "pistons" in particular are two tight so the forearm blasters and hip armor come apart when trying to move the arms and legs at ALL. For lack of a better term, trying to play with this thing in armored mode in any way, shape or form, is a horrible experience and this is honestly one of the most fiddly, q.c.-ridden pieces I've messed with in some time. It's a shame that it came from my favorite company." Quote
Mommar Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, Kuma Style said: Copying and pasting what I wrote on another board: "New "So... got this thing transformed tonight. Honestly, the transformation itself is really quick and more straightforward than the instructions seem. The problem comes when you actually have it together because sooooo much keeps falling apart. the "pistons" in particular are two tight so the forearm blasters and hip armor come apart when trying to move the arms and legs at ALL. For lack of a better term, trying to play with this thing in armored mode in any way, shape or form, is a horrible experience and this is honestly one of the most fiddly, q.c.-ridden pieces I've messed with in some time. It's a shame that it came from my favorite company." QC? Quote
no3Ljm Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, locidm said: I look forward to Cap’s creation! got mine and here’s a quick pic with the (grasp) Toynami and ET Legioss. This guy looks really good! Lots of falling bits. I’ve only put him on the bike so far and I’ve already managed to twist of his head, his top torso, his shoulder pad, and his ankle guard multiple times. Looks really good though. Hey locidm. Since you have it now, how can you compare the quality of the Sentinel's against the Beagle/Toynami one? Also, out of curiosity, does your Toynami one have some areas that got yellowed over time? Thanks. Quote
locidm Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Hey locidm. Since you have it now, how can you compare the quality of the Sentinel's against the Beagle/Toynami one? Also, out of curiosity, does your Toynami one have some areas that got yellowed over time? Thanks. I haven’t spent enough time with the Sentinel to give a through opinion. The stig figure while poseable does have many things popping off and the Toynami feels sturdier and more fun to handle in comparison (until the cloth start flaking anyways). The cloth seems ok so far on the Sentinel. Obviously no screw hole covering half the neck on the Sentinel. I actually prefer sentinel’s head sculpt in the helmet than Toynamis. I like that the Sentinel bike has a lot of tiny details and paint that makes it look less plain than the Toynami. The bike main body so far holds together well but the side canons are easy to pop off. I like that there are diecast in bars and brackets distributed in different areas so it has a little bit of weight to it. The back of the seat collapses easier than the Toynami one does. The wind shield stays in place well compared to the floppy Toynami windshield. The front body of the bike below the windshield holds together well unlike the Toynami. I like the Sentinel color scheme better. I haven’t noticed yellowing on my Toynami but haven’t looked too closely either I haven’t transformed the Toynami in years but remember it not being a pleasant experience. I expect Sentinel to be about the same. Hopefully tomorrow! Edited April 21, 2018 by locidm Quote
no3Ljm Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, locidm said: I haven’t spent enough time with the Sentinel to give a through opinion. The stig figure while poseable does have many things popping off and the Toynami feels sturdier and more fun to handle in comparison (until the cloth start flaking anyways). The cloth seems ok so far on the Sentinel. Obviously no screw hole covering half the neck on the Sentinel. I actually prefer sentinel’s head sculpt in the helmet than Toynamis. I like that the Sentinel bike has a lot of tiny details and paint that makes it look less plain than the Toynami. The bike main body so far holds together well but the side canons are easy to pop off. I like that there are diecast in bars and brackets distributed in different areas so it has a little bit of weight to it. The back of the seat collapses easier than the Toynami one does. The wind shield stays in place well compared to the floppy Toynami windshield. The front body of the bike below the windshield holds together well unlike the Toynami. I like the Sentinel color scheme better. I haven’t noticed yellowing on my Toynami but haven’t looked too closely either I haven’t transformed the Toynami in years but remember it not being a pleasant experience. I expect Sentinel to be about the same. Hopefully tomorrow! Thanks locidm! Appreciate your fast reply and insight on these wonderful toys. Lastly, material-wise esp the plastic used. Do you feel it's the same or Sentinel feels more high quality? Quote
teckno viking Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 First of my 2 Sticks arrived. This one from NY and NO Customs Chargers YAY. Anyone from the UK will tell you how Greedy our customs are. Alas the other Stick is from HLJ and currently in the UK with Customs. So am paying charges on that one :/ Anyway NOT had a play yet as busy keeping kiddies happy before this big kid gets to play LOL First impressions, LOVE IT! Quote
ArchieNov Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 @Kuma Style How difficult was it for you to separate the 2 main halves of the bike? I’m referring to steps #16 & 17 in the instructions. Any tips to get it done other than pure brute force (e.g. like a way that makes it come off easier?) Quote
edstuff Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Anyone order theirs from bbts? I was late to the party and they were the only retailer to have one at the time. Price aint bad either. But anyway just wondering when they will come in stock and ship my order Quote
Kuma Style Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ArchieNov said: @Kuma Style How difficult was it for you to separate the 2 main halves of the bike? I’m referring to steps #16 & 17 in the instructions. Any tips to get it done other than pure brute force (e.g. like a way that makes it come off easier?) It's not. I found a trick. Pull out the lower, diecast bar first and use the upper half on that to pull it up and out. It separates smooth as butter that way where trying to separate it at the connection point itself felt like a 110% chance of breakage. Quote
teckno viking Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Not tried transformation yet Just mesmerised at Bike and Rider at present. Damn it's beautiful. My 3d Printed H90 rifle is too hard to get him to hold. Took the barrel and stock off one and it works as a pistol. Compared to the old Kit bike and nicely does it with scale. Also compared to a few more 1/12 bodies. The Dutch wip custom is a Mezco One:12 Commander Rogers body. Quote
teckno viking Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Next to Articulated Icons Temple Guard. Figma "300" Leonidas and 1000toys. Quote
Numbninja Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 hmmm..now im on the fence regarding picking up rey too..i really like playing with my toys from time to time Quote
Drad Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Is Stick in stock anywhere besides Nippon-Yasan? Good gravy, they're already up to $338. Sheesh. Quote
captain america Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 I think (and I may be wrong) that if the toy is well-received overall, it may get a second run. I'd be weary of paying a premium for these things right now. Quote
Kuma Style Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Sentinel really doesn't re release things. There are three re releases I can think of; The xT-Rex Black and Red Getters with new paint decos, the Sentinel Re:Edit Bleeding Edge armor which was the first release that got another run once the line got popular, and the Giant Gorg which I've read was just them shipping some overstock to retailers. Not saying "never" but if you want these I'd get them because it's becoming common that the "I'll wait for clearance" crowds are becoming the "WTF IS WITH THESE SECOND HAND PRICES?!??!" crowds in short order now that Sentinel has picked up a lot more support and their stuff just doesn't warehouse warm until HLJ sales as it did years ago. Quote
captain america Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Except that while I see quite a few people asking a premium for their toys, I don't many people actually buying them at those inflated prices. If there's high demand for a product but the manufacturer doesn't meet supply, it only invites competition to come in with a newer, better (and cheaper) product. I see people asking $600+ for Beagle ride-armors, but who's actually buying them? Chances are that the toys will yellow in their packages long before anyone buys them, and then it will be a race to the bottom. Quote
teckno viking Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Way I look at it is Mospeada transformable toys will Only go up in price. Hell CM Brave Riders at 1/18 used to be £40 a piece. Now look at those with prices of £100 to over £200+. Add the Brave Riders got a big release in numbers too. So if Sentinel only did the numbers of what has sold, alas yes these will rocket. Annoying as I would like More to customise and try some ideas on. Quote
teckno viking Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kuma Style said: Nice pics @teckno viking! Thanks kuma style (saw over on SSF). I don't have a camera but this Note 4 lol so I got for informative photos than quality photogenic LOL Outstanding shot. Quote
Mommar Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, edstuff said: Anyone order theirs from bbts? I was late to the party and they were the only retailer to have one at the time. Price aint bad either. But anyway just wondering when they will come in stock and ship my order I’ve mentioned this before but if you order a Japan-only item from BBTS expect it to be at least a month later. Edited April 21, 2018 by Mommar Quote
Mommar Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Kuma Style said: Sorry; Quality Control I understand what QC means, I don’t understand what you mean. Quote
Kuma Style Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mommar said: I understand what QC means, I don’t understand what you mean. Parts being ill-fitting and falling off left and right indicates poor quality control... Edited April 21, 2018 by Kuma Style Quote
ArchieNov Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kuma Style said: It's not. I found a trick. Pull out the lower, diecast bar first and use the upper half on that to pull it up and out. It separates smooth as butter that way where trying to separate it at the connection point itself felt like a 110% chance of breakage. Thanks for sharing. I was actually trying something like that before, and while I can see the lock budging slightly, it’s still not coming off easily. Any chance you’d do a transformation video in your review? Thanks. Honestly I don’t know why I seem to be the only one unable to get past this step. Never really had any major problems transforming something before that have set me back this long. Edited April 21, 2018 by ArchieNov Quote
Duymon Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Seeing all these pics makes the wait extra painful for me..... Mid June at earliest assuming Rey isn't delayed again :/ Quote
EmilianoAlfaro Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ArchieNov said: Thanks for sharing. I was actually trying something like that before, and while I can see the lock budging slightly, it’s still not coming off easily. Any chance you’d do a transformation video in your review? Thanks. Honestly I don’t know why I seem the only one unable to get past this step. Never really had any major problems transforming something before that have set me back this long. I think you should identify the two parts and leverage the union with a plastic wedge, that way you will not break any pieces. Quote
Saburo Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Got my Sentinel Ride Armor as well, but I wanted to do something different than my normal photoshoots. MOSPEADA with an homage to another well known manga/anime, hope you guys like it. Quote
ArchieNov Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 I think Kanedas Bike would go bananas for this Quote
Kuma Style Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, ArchieNov said: Thanks for sharing. I was actually trying something like that before, and while I can see the lock budging slightly, it’s still not coming off easily. Any chance you’d do a transformation video in your review? Thanks. Honestly I don’t know why I seem to be the only one unable to get past this step. Never really had any major problems transforming something before that have set me back this long. Yea. I'm recording the video review in a few minutes, actually. I'm doing the transformation video separately so that I can actually go through slowly and explain it. Don't worry too much because I was in the EXACT same position as you until I found that trick so hopefully there's something I maybe missed trying to explain it verbally that will shine through when I do it on tape that helps. Quote
Hiriyu Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 15 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Lastly, material-wise esp the plastic used. Do you feel it's the same or Sentinel feels more high quality? I'm not locidm, nor do I have a Sentinel ride armor, but I can affirm that the quality of materials in the Beagle/Toynami were very, very good (aside from the cloth portions of the rider suit). Most of the plastic in the Beagle had the feel of high-end industrial casting resin - it had a very hard and "dense" surface feel to it. Quote
VF-Zer0S Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Saburo said: Got my Sentinel Ride Armor as well, but I wanted to do something different than my normal photoshoots. MOSPEADA with an homage to another well known manga/anime, hope you guys like it. Phenomenal! Quote
F360 Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Saw a pic from 2chan that is just right for the lonely face And someone did a quick fix for the dash. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, ArchieNov said: I think Kanedas Bike would go bananas for this I think you are correct Aces as always @Saburo -b. Quote
derex3592 Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, F360 said: Saw a pic from 2chan that is just right for the lonely face THAT pic wins the interwebs today. Quote
Valkyrie Griffon Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Received mine today. Box is old-school awesome. Figure has nice heft and weight and the bike is beautiful. Stuff pops off like a Robot Spirits toy. I'm torn. I LOVE my RIobot Detonator Orgun but it was half the price of this and way less fiddly. Very concerned about how this will hold up with time and even minimal reposing. Quote
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