Kitz Concept Toy Thread 2.0

[varitechs]

What is suspicious?  21000/50 = that is to say an average of $450

i paid 400$ (i certainly order more) and i am not alone so it's not suspicious... 😉

Edited November 11 by varitechs

[jenius]

I'm sure if I were going to support it, I would be at $400 at least... But I don't understand how it would work still so I'm sitting it out. Also want to see them ship the GBPs first so I don't already have so much money tied up in their pre-orders. 

[varitechs]

9 minutes ago, jenius said:

 Also want to see them ship the GBPs first so I don't already have so much money tied up in their pre-orders. 

yes...i understand... It's really too bad that they don't keep their deadlines but after receiving the battlepod, I have confidence, I want to help them.

[varitechs]

15 minutes ago, jenius said:

But I don't understand how it would work still so I'm sitting it

What don't you understand?

[jenius]

What toy would be first? When would it be made? What if I only want an officers pod? Am I going to have to wait until a bunch of the other items get made? That might be years from now. 

[sh9000]

Add $307 to their total because I might order the set of 10 which come out a little cheaper.  Shipping is a b!tch though.  I have until 12/6 to make my order.  Estimated delivery May 2025.

[varitechs]

2 hours ago, jenius said:

What toy would be first? When would it be made? What if I only want an officers pod? Am I going to have to wait until a bunch of the other items get made? That might be years from now. 

Date are visible on the right list and when you pay.

i report to Cyrus, he should push more information on products page soon

 

 

Edited November 11 by varitechs

[varitechs]

summary 😉

(Prices are approximate)

 

2025 Mach = 31€/p = GLUU-GER BRON, KONDA, RICO, BOLT, ACE

2025 March = 136€ soit 27/p = Gluu-Ger series (5 Figures)

2025 March = 31€/p = SERAU-GER JETT)

2025 May = 31€/p = SERAU-GER KHYRON, BREETAI, DOLZA, REX

2025 May = 136€ soit 27€/p = Sera-Ger series (5 Figures)

2025 May = 241€ soit 24€/p = 10 figures SERAU et GLUU-GER

2025 May = 97€ = 1:72 RECON BATTLEPOD

2025 Juill = 121€ = 1:72 GLAUG

2025 Sept = 85€ = 1:72 QUEL-GULNAU

Edited November 11 by varitechs

[jenius]

This is why it's so crazy to me. First Kickstarter should just be the March items. Then he should do the next... Then the next. If a set doesn't make it's individual target, he should move onto the next item and not make that item. Having it all blended into one Kickstarter is tough. He's basically competing with himself here. 

[Chronocidal]

Yeah, lumping a ton of items that people may or may not want all together is a bizarre way to arrange it.

And aside from that, until they can actually meet dates they set, that list really means nothing.

Edited November 11 by Chronocidal

[varitechs]

hum... yes yes it is not wrong.. Personally, it's not a problem for me, it's as a multiple preorder...

However, in the comments on kickstarter the issue that is raised is that some people would like to order more but will not be able to do so within this 30 day periode specially for the second and third waves.

[wm cheng]

I love my Battlepod!  But no more kickstarters for me EVER - I lost over $1K over that HAL-9000 fiasco, it was written up all over the most respected magazines and online, but when it went down and bankrupted none of those outlets that reported on how great it was printed anything about the loss - ARGH!  (of course having said that, I did pre-order the Tomy Refit Enterprise LOL - but I think that's a bit different than a Kickstarter)

Edited November 11 by wm cheng

[sh9000]

Pilot figure.

[Radioguy]

2 hours ago, wm cheng said:

I love my Battlepod!  But no more kickstarters for me EVER - I lost over $1K over that HAL-9000 fiasco, it was written up all over the most respected magazines and online, but when it went down and bankrupted none of those outlets that reported on how great it was printed anything about the loss - ARGH!  (of course having said that, I did pre-order the Tomy Refit Enterprise LOL - but I think that's a bit different than a Kickstarter)

Was that the Indiegogo from Master Replicas?

[Big s]

1 hour ago, sh9000 said:

Pilot figure.

I have that boss fights knight standing next to the pilot. It looks like he stands just slightly higher possibly due to his high heels, so these figures will be rather small at around 1/18th figure size

the hot pink is an odd choice of color. I was noticing that the elbow bent holding the rifle has the elbow pad in the proper position while the straight arms have them to the sides, maybe the actual joint there can be rotated to get more interesting poses. I’d like to see a back of that bent arm to see how the pad is actually handled

[jvmacross]

As I understand it...the listed 'goal' will finance the production of everything in Wave 1.....with that said, at the moment, the only thing that seems to be a go, whether the kickstarter fails or not, is the Gluu-Ger that was sold/advertised with the Standard Regult..the same goes for the other outstanding items like the GBPs/Max Arcade VF-1A's/Max and Miriya Figs (in theory)...if the kickstarter fails....it is possible to still get the rest of everything listed, however, it will be back to the current state of release dates, which even a Palantir could not provide information on to anyone....

If these were to be released individually on their site in the current ways that other of KC's POs have been listed, I would definitely be getting everything....but even so, I would not be placing any POs until my current POs are delivered....

And this is the Catch22 that the majority of KC's customers are in.....support via Kickstarter and have no guarantee that you will receive your items in the dates currently shown or not at all and lose even more money....or do not support the kickstarter and hope to have the chance to buy these items someday or never at all due to KC's  perceived lack of demand or KC simply going out of business....either way, due to how long it has been taking to release POs, you stand the chance of losing your PO deposits in any method you decide to send it to them (KC site or Kickstarter)....it's just that by paying into the Kickstarter, you are not just losing a 'deposit/partial payment' you are losing the full price (even if 'discounted') of each item....to me, the decision is pretty simple from a financial perspective....

As a fan of KC I have had my share of likes and dislikes of their Macross items, but with their 'VF-1' line seemingly finishing up and now moving into the non-transforming mecha, they are now back on the positive end of quality and value....so it is sort of bittersweet to have to say 'NOPE' to sending them any more of my cash, at least until they have come through with what they have already sold and told us they will release....if by some miracle they are 600 USD short of meeting their goal on December 6th....I'll consider tossing them the coin...

[MKT]

4 hours ago, jvmacross said:

As I understand it...the listed 'goal' will finance the production of everything in Wave 1.....with that said, at the moment, the only thing that seems to be a go, whether the kickstarter fails or not, is the Gluu-Ger that was sold/advertised with the Standard Regult..the same goes for the other outstanding items like the GBPs/Max Arcade VF-1A's/Max and Miriya Figs (in theory)...if the kickstarter fails....it is possible to still get the rest of everything listed, however, it will be back to the current state of release dates, which even a Palantir could not provide information on to anyone....

If these were to be released individually on their site in the current ways that other of KC's POs have been listed, I would definitely be getting everything....but even so, I would not be placing any POs until my current POs are delivered....

And this is the Catch22 that the majority of KC's customers are in.....support via Kickstarter and have no guarantee that you will receive your items in the dates currently shown or not at all and lose even more money....or do not support the kickstarter and hope to have the chance to buy these items someday or never at all due to KC's  perceived lack of demand or KC simply going out of business....either way, due to how long it has been taking to release POs, you stand the chance of losing your PO deposits in any method you decide to send it to them (KC site or Kickstarter)....it's just that by paying into the Kickstarter, you are not just losing a 'deposit/partial payment' you are losing the full price (even if 'discounted') of each item....to me, the decision is pretty simple from a financial perspective....

As a fan of KC I have had my share of likes and dislikes of their Macross items, but with their 'VF-1' line seemingly finishing up and now moving into the non-transforming mecha, they are now back on the positive end of quality and value....so it is sort of bittersweet to have to say 'NOPE' to sending them any more of my cash, at least until they have come through with what they have already sold and told us they will release....if by some miracle they are 600 USD short of meeting their goal on December 6th....I'll consider tossing them the coin...

Agreed with everything said here.

Given how the situation is already playing out with KC on the rest of current POs, it just comes down to the FOMO aspect that makes someone like me give some thought to the Kickstarter. And if we think about it, the whole campaign really plays to FOMO - if it's just one or two figures, it's easier to pass, but a whole lot of yummy ones?? Where do I sign up?
But committing large sums of $$ purely due to FOMO is never wise, unless we can upfront fully accept the risks with it. To me if we are already worrying over the amounts we have tied up with KC POs, is it worth to sweat over this much bigger amount for years to come?

[varitechs]

I have read your comments and I understand your concerns. However, this small company makes really original products and if we don't help them, I doubt they will continue and that would be a real shame...

[Big s]

32 minutes ago, varitechs said:

I have read your comments and I understand your concerns. However, this small company makes really original products and if we don't help them, I doubt they will continue and that would be a real shame...

I know that it’s not a bigger company like Hasbro, but they don’t need to rely on kickstarters for every release. I’m not joining in on it and from the sounds of things it’s not a very reliable system. If bbts or some other site offers a preorder, then I’ll be more interested there. Personally I don’t mind the little pilots and if they fix the colors, I’ll more than likely preorder them if that becomes an option.

[jvmacross]

I remember another 'small company' that would release many VFs in quick succession to arguably their own detriment....just like KC did, at least at the beginning....the difference was this 'other' company's  products were arguably better, they did not take anyone's PO money in advance, and would release POs on a timely basis....but in the end they went bankrupt with one final swan song release...Hopefully, the 'Battlepod' is not KC's swan song...because it is the best Macross item they have released to date and points to some great future releases...but also, I do not want to lose my PO deposits! 

[jvmacross]

It'd be dissapointing if after all this time KC decides to get loose on their "creative interpretations" for the paint applications on their Gluu-Ger....Hopefully they have run out of all of the metallic paints they have been using lately! 

Seriously KC.....no gloss!  Stick to the "canon" colors please...

Edited November 12 by jvmacross

[wm cheng]

17 hours ago, Radioguy said:

Was that the Indiegogo from Master Replicas?

@Radioguy yes unfortunately (and I thought they were thoroughly vetted too)

[varitechs]

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

It'd be dissapointing if after all this time KC decides to get loose on their "creative interpretations" for the paint applications on their Gluu-Ger....Hopefully they have run out of all of the metallic paints they have been using lately! 

Seriously KC.....no gloss!  Stick to the "canon" colors please...

Personally I like their "creative interpretations" 🙂, ok maybe the metallic paint is a bit "too much" but the glossy paint is really nice, for example their gloss version of the VF-1 Angle Bird is really beautiful.

[Radioguy]

1 hour ago, wm cheng said:

@Radioguy yes unfortunately (and I thought they were thoroughly vetted too)

I hope you know they resurrected, and were granted the license to sell off the remainder of the Eaglemoss Star Trek ships line, and have continued with the Trek license, as well as Doctor Who, Stargate and others, to produce more merchandise.

If you are seeking recompense and couldn't reach them before, they are reestablished and easier to contact now.

25 minutes ago, varitechs said:

Personally I like their "creative interpretations" 🙂, ok maybe the metallic paint is a bit "too much" but the glossy paint is really nice, for example their gloss version of the VF-1 Angle Bird is really beautiful.

I actually kinda still want those metallic VF-1As. Did anyone here get them? I don't think I've ever seen pics of them other than those from KC.

[wm cheng]

28 minutes ago, Radioguy said:

I hope you know they resurrected...

If you are seeking recompense and couldn't reach them before, they are reestablished and easier to contact now.

Thanks @Radioguy - it was my understanding when they filed bankruptcy that the banks and lawyers got all the money that was left, I think that company is a new company and has nothing to do with the old HAL-9000 project (unless you know something I don't - there were a lot of us out $1k or more)

[varitechs]

A dream that can come true...i hope 🥲

 

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, varitechs said:

Personally I like their "creative interpretations" 🙂, ok maybe the metallic paint is a bit "too much" but the glossy paint is really nice, for example their gloss version of the VF-1 Angle Bird is really beautiful.

It's fine for a VF-1 that is supposed to be more flamboyant than combat versions....not so much for Zentran soldiers....hoping they just go with flat or semi-gloss at worst...and more importantly use the color combinations actually seen on the show....

[Radioguy]

5 hours ago, wm cheng said:

Thanks @Radioguy - it was my understanding when they filed bankruptcy that the banks and lawyers got all the money that was left, I think that company is a new company and has nothing to do with the old HAL-9000 project (unless you know something I don't - there were a lot of us out $1k or more)

Unsure. They have the same logo, and continue in the same vein. They may have restructured, but I would approach them and have them tell me that again instead of assume they still have no liability. (Although you're likely right.)

Edited November 13 by Radioguy

[varitechs]

Somes news 😌

[jenius]

I will reserve judgement for the time being but that sounds... Curious. He should be worried about what threezero might do while he delays.

[Big s]

4 hours ago, jvmacross said:

It's fine for a VF-1 that is supposed to be more flamboyant than combat versions....not so much for Zentran soldiers....hoping they just go with flat or semi-gloss at worst...and more importantly use the color combinations actually seen on the show....

Gotta agree about the Zentraedi soldiers. That hot pink bugs me and it would be even worse if it was that weird metallic thing they like to go for. Just give it that dark blue grey and grey lavender color and flat coat it. They’re weird space soldiers, not hardcore ravers

[MKT]

I actually don't mind the metallic paint, much in the same way as what they did for Dana. It's a bit of nice creative flair, something like how folks customize model kits - for eg, I'm seeing a lot of the HG Fire Valk being done up in glossy, metallic deep reds and they look great. But I do get why some want it to as close to the show as possible. 

[Big s]

2 hours ago, MKT said:

I actually don't mind the metallic paint, much in the same way as what they did for Dana. It's a bit of nice creative flair, something like how folks customize model kits - for eg, I'm seeing a lot of the HG Fire Valk being done up in glossy, metallic deep reds and they look great. But I do get why some want it to as close to the show as possible. 

I think the fire Valkyrie is a different thing where it’s supposed to be a hot rod. While the soldier armor here begs to be dull

[Convectuoso]

11 hours ago, varitechs said:

Somes news 😌

Who's Mina?

[varitechs]

4 hours ago, Convectuoso said:

Who's Mina?

Error of course, It's Miriya 🙂

Edited November 13 by varitechs