Kitz Concept Toy Thread 2.0

[varitechs]

10 hours ago, Corrinald said:

Impressive they met their goal and are still going! Happy for them and look forward to the products. I may give in and order a Glaug, but am otherwise hesitant for the same reasons as others here.

Curiously, Destroids orders are low, it's more the success of the kickstarter that boosted orders

[sh9000]

It didn't get enough for the Phalanx.  I decided not to order anything.

[jvmacross]

I assume the amount needed was to be able to cover production costs for everything listed?

I see that the Defender was unlocked, but the kickstarter was closed by the time I could potentially add it.

Hopefully it gets made and I can pick one up at some point...

I really hope this all works out....the Max figure should be the next one released, per KC...

[Radioguy]

1 hour ago, sh9000 said:

It didn't get enough for the Phalanx.

I found that one tempting too.

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, sh9000 said:

It didn't get enough for the Phalanx.  I decided not to order anything.

Hopefully this is not Yamato all over again....I wish KC would have done a 2-pack release instead...Tomahawk\Spartan and Defender\Phalanx....it'll be funny if KC comes out with the Tomahawk before Bandai does!

[Radioguy]

If they had got a SDF-1 out before Arcadia supposedly gets to their reissue, and Bandai gets to their vaporware release, it would've bumped up their street cred quite a bit. I half expected to see it in the list at a higher tier.

[jvmacross]

Edited December 6 by jvmacross

[Radioguy]

Z's are always gonna get ya.

(Even if ya edit it. 😄)

Edited December 7 by Radioguy

[Protoman]

10 hours ago, Radioguy said:

If they had got a SDF-1 out before Arcadia supposedly gets to their reissue, and Bandai gets to their vaporware release, it would've bumped up their street cred quite a bit. I half expected to see it in the list at a higher tier.

Agreed. I thought Miriya with the toon color Queadluun-Rau was another that could help push it. 

[MacrossJunkie]

Wow, I only just learned about the existence of these battlepods by KC. Looks like I missed out on the crowdfunding.

How big are these actually? Do they look like they would scale okay with the Arcadia VF-1's if you don't look at it too hard?

[varitechs]

It's Big 😉.

VF-1j left is KC

VF-1j Brown is Yamato 

Edited December 14 by varitechs

[tekering]

2 hours ago, varitechs said:

It's Big 😉.

And yet still, much too small... 😒

[jvmacross]

4 hours ago, MacrossJunkie said:

Wow, I only just learned about the existence of these battlepods by KC. Looks like I missed out on the crowdfunding.

How big are these actually? Do they look like they would scale okay with the Arcadia VF-1's if you don't look at it too hard?

Not really....

Not sure if you own any other VF-1's from other brands...but here is how they look besides KC's Regult...

KC's VF-1...

Threezero VF-1...

 

Bandai HMR VF-1...

 

Here it is next to Bandai HMR Regult...

[jenius]

If you believe the official specs, they are 1/60 scale in the Macross universe and scale perfectly with a Yamato. Of course, they were often depicted as being much larger in the show. You would have to backward engineer a proper height from the most consistent sizes represented in the show to figure out which VF-1 scales best 'to your memory'.

[sh9000]

I'm sticking to one KC Battlepod just to have one in the collection.  I'm fine with my HMR Regults going well with my HMR VF-1s.

[MacrossJunkie]

4 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Not really....

Not sure if you own any other VF-1's from other brands...but here is how they look besides KC's Regult...

KC's VF-1...

Threezero VF-1...

 

Bandai HMR VF-1...

 

Here it is next to Bandai HMR Regult...

Cool, thanks for the comparisons!

1 hour ago, jenius said:

If you believe the official specs, they are 1/60 scale in the Macross universe and scale perfectly with a Yamato. Of course, they were often depicted as being much larger in the show. You would have to backward engineer a proper height from the most consistent sizes represented in the show to figure out which VF-1 scales best 'to your memory'.

Yeah, I recall that sizes were depicted rather inconsistently within the show. Not to mention the old Yamato 1/60 Regult was absolutely huge and was on the extreme tall end of depictions.

[varitechs]

Zentradi invasion was came in France !!! 😱

[jvmacross]

I always return to this lineart drawing for my preferred scale among all of the SDFM mecha...

...with that said KC's VF-1 scales well with the KC Battlepod...not surprising...I really hope KC comes through with everything they have teased and promised...although Bandai can beat them easily in recreating this iconic illustration by simply releasing their HMR Tomahawk...easier said than done I suppose....

[Big s]

11 hours ago, tekering said:

And yet still, much too small... 😒

I do like this one, because it can be imagined that the pilot is actually as tall as a vf-1 battroid. Although the size thing is always gonna be confusing since it really wasn’t standardized in the og show 

[tekering]

53 minutes ago, Big s said:

the size thing is always gonna be confusing since it really wasn’t standardized in the og show 

On the contrary, the scale as depicted in the anime was surprisingly consistent -- much more so than, say, the Spartas in Southern Cross or the Legioss in Mospeada -- but official stats (and scale reference line-art) published AFTER the animation was completed have muddied the waters considerably. 

In fact...

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

...this image is particularly problematic, as it contradicts both what's depicted in the show and its own internal logic.  Despite downscaling Kamjin by more than a third, he still wouldn't be able to fit into that Glaug behind him, even if it were completely hollow!

I've been doing extensive research into this for my next YouTube video, including video clips and physical models, and it will definitively debunk the "official" stats once-and-for-all. 🔒

[jenius]

Maybe that depicts the real world sizes and, for purposes of the dramatized TV retelling of events, they made everything alien bigger for dramatic purposes.

[DewPoint]

3 hours ago, tekering said:

On the contrary, the scale as depicted in the anime was surprisingly consistent -- much more so than, say, the Spartas in Southern Cross or the Legioss in Mospeada -- but official stats (and scale reference line-art) published AFTER the animation was completed have muddied the waters considerably. 

In fact...

...this image is particularly problematic, as it contradicts both what's depicted in the show and its own internal logic.  Despite downscaling Kamjin by more than a third, he still wouldn't be able to fit into that Glaug behind him, even if it were completely hollow!

I've been doing extensive research into this for my next YouTube video, including video clips and physical models, and it will definitively debunk the "official" stats once-and-for-all. 🔒

So my question would be: If that size drawing was done after the show's production, what did the animators actually use for size reference during production? Was it just the story boards?

[jvmacross]

10 hours ago, jenius said:

Maybe that depicts the real world sizes and, for purposes of the dramatized TV retelling of events, they made everything alien bigger for dramatic purposes.

Exactly....nothing shown in the TV shows, OVAs, and films can be taken as fact....

"In-Universe" it would make no sense for Humanity to develop fighting machines that, based on the data gathered within the crashed ASS-1, would have put us at such an extreme size  disadvantage to a potential alien adversary...

[Big s]

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

Exactly....nothing shown in the TV shows, OVAs, and films can be taken as fact....

"In-Universe" it would make no sense for Humanity to develop fighting machines that, based on the data gathered within the crashed ASS-1, would have put us at such an extreme size  disadvantage to a potential alien adversary...

I honestly always thought the goal was to make them in size with the Zentraedi so they could make it down their hallways in their ships for infiltration. Although they rarely did anything like that. Basically large enough to fight them and small enough not to get stuck 

[MKT]

Maybe their mecha have several sizes, just like clothes. It's such a tight fit for the soldiers, so they could almost be like some sort of wearable lol. This is why we see them smaller or bigger depending on scenes.    

[jenius]

1 hour ago, Big s said:

I honestly always thought the goal was to make them in size with the Zentraedi so they could make it down their hallways in their ships for infiltration. Although they rarely did anything like that. Basically large enough to fight them and small enough not to get stuck 

Makes sense to me. I am tainted by Robotech but I thought the mecha were designed based on inference of the height of the beings that would have occupied the ship. So the VF-1 is larger than the tallest a zentran seemed like it would be while still small enough to navigate their corridors.

[Big s]

5 hours ago, jenius said:

Makes sense to me. I am tainted by Robotech but I thought the mecha were designed based on inference of the height of the beings that would have occupied the ship. So the VF-1 is larger than the tallest a zentran seemed like it would be while still small enough to navigate their corridors.

Or just cool enough to share a smoke with

Honestly, this scene shouldn’t work. It probably would’ve just torn the cigarette to bits. I think the head lasers would’ve worked better. Although, I don’t really know if anyone has ever tried lighting a smoke with a gun of any type. I guess I need more redneck buddies 

[jvmacross]

7 hours ago, Big s said:

I honestly always thought the goal was to make them in size with the Zentraedi so they could make it down their hallways in their ships for infiltration. Although they rarely did anything like that. Basically large enough to fight them and small enough not to get stuck 

Yep....like I said, when earth finally made it inside the crashed ship, they would have seen that everything was built for a certain sized being to walk within it...such as the huge doors seen by Hikaru and Minmay when they got stuck within the SDF-1....it would have made no sense to then design the VF-1's battroid configuration to be at a disadvantage to whatever the 'avaerage' size that was estimated by the 'top men' involved with the development of the VF....at least that's my head canon...LOL

[jvmacross]

6 hours ago, MKT said:

Maybe their mecha have several sizes, just like clothes. It's such a tight fit for the soldiers, so they could almost be like some sort of wearable lol. This is why we see them smaller or bigger depending on scenes.    

I feel there is some potential for this...for example, Zentran designed to pilot the Glaug would be bigger...not necessarily bigger mecha within the same type of mecha....I believe the Protoculture specifically designed the Zentran as per the roles needed for then to fill...thus the wide range of sizes among their soldiers and commander types...again, this works for my head canon....

[jvmacross]

49 minutes ago, Big s said:

 

Maybe the 'gag' required a 'Commander-type' Zentran for this scene.....

[sh9000]

On 12/14/2024 at 4:25 PM, jvmacross said:

I always return to this lineart drawing for my preferred scale among all of the SDFM mecha...

...with that said KC's VF-1 scales well with the KC Battlepod...not surprising...I really hope KC comes through with everything they have teased and promised...although Bandai can beat them easily in recreating this iconic illustration by simply releasing their HMR Tomahawk...easier said than done I suppose....

This.

Also, the HMR VF-1 scales well with the HMR Regult, the Toynami 1/100 VF-1 scales well with the Toynami 1/100 Battlepod, and the Hasegawa 1/72 VF-1 scales well with the Hasegawa 1/72 Regult.

[PNW_Sweetie]

So the email I just got from BBTS says that the BattlePod description has been edited to remove the Glug-ger being included. It does not mention being shipped free at a later date.

I feel I’m about to cancel my pre-order

[Big s]

38 minutes ago, PNW_Sweetie said:

So the email I just got from BBTS says that the BattlePod description has been edited to remove the Glug-ger being included. It does not mention being shipped free at a later date.

I feel I’m about to cancel my pre-order

I wouldn’t blame you. The company should keep their promises and I can’t blame bbts for having to update the description. 
Maybe try contacting bbts and see if they have any information on the situation before making a decision. Either way, their stuff usually doesn’t sell out and to could probably just order later if you change your mind

[Mechapilot77]

So is it because KC no longer gonna provide it for people that ordered them and paid/m for them already or is it that bbts didn't want to deal with getting them in from KC and shipping them out together?  If it's the former that's messed up and will no longer support KC.  If it's the latter I would urge everyone to cancel their bbts preorders.

[Big s]

1 hour ago, Mechapilot77 said:

So is it because KC no longer gonna provide it for people that ordered them and paid/m for them already or is it that bbts didn't want to deal with getting them in from KC and shipping them out together?  If it's the former that's messed up and will no longer support KC.  If it's the latter I would urge everyone to cancel their bbts preorders.

I guarantee tat it’s a KC thing. They’ve been shipping the regult without a pilot already and may provide retailers with the figures to fulfill the preorders at a later date, but it’s not really certain. I think bbts just had to put that in the description since the regult will come into stock before the pilot is even finalized.