Psajdak Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 I mean like sequel, or something closely related to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay, and maybe some other characters. Maybe even (soft) reboot. - haven't seen anything post Frontier series, btw. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Psajdak said: I mean like sequel, or something closely related to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay, and maybe some other characters. Nope... Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay's story reached its natural conclusion with Flash Back 2012. A story that's already over doesn't need a continuation, and we DEFINITELY don't want to see them dragged back and subsequently beaten down the way The Show That Must Not Be Named has done to them over the last three decades and change. Let them be. Their story is over and they've almost literally sailed off into the sunset. It's better by far for Macross to continue focusing on moving its story forward, with new people and new places. 2 hours ago, Psajdak said: Maybe even (soft) reboot. We've already had two different animated takes on their story (SDF Macross and DYRL?), a novelization by Sukehiro Tomita, several video game adaptations, and a modern manga adaptation (Macross the First). I think we're good. Quote
jvmacross Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Psajdak said: I mean like sequel, or something closely related to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay, and maybe some other characters. Maybe even (soft) reboot. - haven't seen anything post Frontier series, btw. I wouldn't mind a reboot...but it seems unlikely.... Thankfully you can live your reboot fantasies with these.... Quote
pengbuzz Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, jvmacross said: I wouldn't mind a reboot...but it seems unlikely.... Thankfully you can live your reboot fantasies with these.... A shame they didn't re-do the whole series like this...unless I'm missing something here. Quote
jvmacross Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: A shame they didn't re-do the whole series like this...unless I'm missing something here. A shame indeed.....these were just snippets of various scenes from the original SDFM that were created for the Macross Fever pachinko game from a few years back. Quote
jenius Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Whoa, they had Hikaru kill Quamzin there... a few interesting changes made in those animations. Quote
Psajdak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 I already saw this video once... Can't tell what exactly, but something feels really wrong about how original series characters look in it. Maybe that they should be redesigned for decades newer animation. For instance, in Macross Zero, Roy looks nice, because he was redrawn to fit into 2000s anime. Quote
sketchley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 I'm with Seto Kaiba on this one. We also got to see a "what happened to ...?" story with Max and Miria. And we all know how that turned out (Macross 7). Not to mention the story changes necessitated by the modern age. Mikimoto-san started to dabble with that in Macross the First with the introduction of smart phones... but never got around to addressing how that affected things like Ichijo sneaking out to use a pay phone to call Minmei, or that robot Polaroid camera that invokes much needed humour. Quote
jeniusornome Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 maybe the HOA said they didn’t want any cell towers in Macross City, so they just put in pay phones? i liked seeing Roy in Macross Zero and evening liked seeing Max and Milia in M7, but I don’t know that I’d want to see more. Although I do like the bits and pieces we’ve gotten of other aspects of the Jenius family tree. i would be interested in seeing shows set in between the shows already out, instead of jumping ahead in time again. Like a patrol group chasing down pirates from M7 Dynamite, or a random fleet in the 2030s so we could get some VF-4 and VF-11 action. Quote
jenius Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 I want to see the mechs again more than the people. Is that odd? Maybe a story of the second MegaRoad or something along those lines where the VF-1 is the primary fighter, the destroids are present, and there's some VF-11 precursor (or SV-51 follow-up) as a special ops vehicle. Maybe sprinkle in some VF-4s. Heck, the bad guys can even be Zentraedi or "supervision army". If they want to have a tagalong from the original show, I wouldn't be against that shoehorn. Admiral Claudia? I also wouldn't be opposed to them getting pretty much wiped out halfway through the show, then teaming up with an alien civilization to create some really alien looking mecha, to finally overcome the baddies. I'm thinking like transformable Gradius fighters. Quote
fhrex Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 A little off topic, but was anything ever said about whatever happened to Hikaru and Misa on their voyage in the Megaroad? Quote
jeniusornome Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Lost contact in... 2016 I think. “No one knows...” in universe that fact wasn’t made public until much later for fear of halting colony fleet efforts. Quote
sketchley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, fhrex said: A little off topic, but was anything ever said about whatever happened to Hikaru and Misa on their voyage in the Megaroad? Specifically, no. Indirectly... they travelled to the center of the galaxy and this happened: http://sdfyodogawa.mywebcommunity.org/OTother/MinmeiLastMessage.php Edited April 11, 2020 by sketchley Quote
sketchley Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 8 hours ago, jenius said: I want to see the mechs again more than the people. Is that odd? Maybe a story of the second MegaRoad or something along those lines where the VF-1 is the primary fighter, the destroids are present, and there's some VF-11 precursor (or SV-51 follow-up) as a special ops vehicle. Maybe sprinkle in some VF-4s. Heck, the bad guys can even be Zentraedi or "supervision army". If they want to have a tagalong from the original show, I wouldn't be against that shoehorn. Admiral Claudia? I also wouldn't be opposed to them getting pretty much wiped out halfway through the show, then teaming up with an alien civilization to create some really alien looking mecha, to finally overcome the baddies. I'm thinking like transformable Gradius fighters. I agree with this—especially about a series set in the "great blank space" between SDFM and M+/M7—however, I disagree with the part about creating new alien mecha with an alien civilization. In short, it'd be like Star Trek Enterprise and Discovery, or Macross Zero, with tech that appears more advanced occurring earlier in the timeline. However, I'm all for it if it happens after Delta. Would that make it great granny Admiral Claudia? Quote
Bolt Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Psajdak said: I mean like sequel, or something closely related to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay, and maybe some other characters. No thanks. As much as it might be cool , I don't think anyone could do it justice. And there's about zero chance Kawamori san would touch it . Having said that, i am working on a Megaroad -01 diorama hangar scene.There's a little bit of a story there, but that's my own pet project. The closest we might get now to any old character is (supposedly) lady M.. 19 hours ago, Psajdak said: Maybe even (soft) reboot. Macross the first was working on being that. It was awesome ! But now it's indefinitely shelved. 19 hours ago, Psajdak said: - haven't seen anything post Frontier series, btw While it's by no means my favorite, I would still recommend watching Delta. There is, more than likely, going to be connections to the upcoming Delta Zettai Live!!!!!! Quote
Marzan Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 No. Direct sequels that take place a long time after the original generally end being rather poor. Hikaru, Misa and the gang had their run and a great send off in 2012 with the Megaroad 1- Let the mistery live on forever. Quote
pengbuzz Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Marzan said: No. Direct sequels that take place a long time after the original generally end being rather poor. Hikaru, Misa and the gang had their run and a great send off in 2012 with the Megaroad 1- Let the mistery live on forever. Let's face it: as soon as they were sure they were out of earth range, Misa strangled Minmay. Quote
Psajdak Posted April 12, 2020 Author Posted April 12, 2020 Dunno, if you ask me, it is just a shame for original trio to be completely gone forever, especially since they weren't around since 80s, if we only talk about anime. Plus, even after all this time, they are still the most iconic characters in franchise, not counting major supporting ones. I mean, sure, their fate kind of seems bittersweet, romantic, and mysterious, but maybe something could be done with the whole center of galaxy, black hole thing, like where they ended up in the future, or rather current time of next main series. ... But then again, their story IS concluded, but being around as supporting cast, with maybe Minmay finding someone for herself... Damn it. Quote
Petrov27 Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Its a hard call - I would be up for a remake/reboot with modern top notch animation but personally I would want the iconic mech designs, uniforms and general look of the characters to remain the same. My worry if they did a remake they would redesign everything and screw it all the hell up..... Edited April 12, 2020 by Petrov27 Quote
sketchley Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Psajdak said: ... whole center of galaxy, black hole thing, ... Correction: it's not a black hole. It's a "dark hole". Quote
pengbuzz Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Psajdak said: Dunno, if you ask me, it is just a shame for original trio to be completely gone forever, especially since they weren't around since 80s, if we only talk about anime. Plus, even after all this time, they are still the most iconic characters in franchise, not counting major supporting ones. I mean, sure, their fate kind of seems bittersweet, romantic, and mysterious, but maybe something could be done with the whole center of galaxy, black hole thing, like where they ended up in the future, or rather current time of next main series. ... But then again, their story IS concluded, but being around as supporting cast, with maybe Minmay finding someone for herself... Damn it. A story is only "concluded" as long as those who wrote it deem it so; specifically speaking, a person's "story" continues as long as they are alive. As far as the story being "finished", I remember a certain Sci-Fi series that ended and then began again with a series of movies a decade later. I think it was called... "Star Trek". Folks may disagree; that is their right. But ti is my right to disagree with their disagreement. And I say... "This is Megaroad-1; Captain Misa Ichijo calling.... thank heaven we were finally able to get through! We have a priority message for the Unity Government." Edited April 12, 2020 by pengbuzz Quote
fhrex Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 6 hours ago, pengbuzz said: A story is only "concluded" as long as those who wrote it deem it so; specifically speaking, a person's "story" continues as long as they are alive. As far as the story being "finished", I remember a certain Sci-Fi series that ended and then began again with a series of movies a decade later. I think it was called... "Star Trek". Folks may disagree; that is their right. But ti is my right to disagree with their disagreement. And I say... "This is Megaroad-1; Captain Misa Ichijo calling.... thank heaven we were finally able to get through! We have a priority message for the Unity Government." Funny you should draw that parallel; Macross II and Star Trek The Next Generation debuted around the same time. Quote
fhrex Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 12 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Let's face it: as soon as they were sure they were out of earth range, Misa strangled Minmay. ROFL!!! Quote
Dynaman Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 I would love to see the series redone like Yamato 2199 did for Yamato. But NOT like Yamato 2202 did for the second series of Yamato. And there is the problem, you don't know what your going to get till it's done. Quote
Tochiro Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 16 hours ago, Psajdak said: Dunno, if you ask me, it is just a shame for original trio to be completely gone forever, especially since they weren't around since 80s, if we only talk about anime. Plus, even after all this time, they are still the most iconic characters in franchise, not counting major supporting ones. I mean, sure, their fate kind of seems bittersweet, romantic, and mysterious, but maybe something could be done with the whole center of galaxy, black hole thing, like where they ended up in the future, or rather current time of next main series. ... But then again, their story IS concluded, but being around as supporting cast, with maybe Minmay finding someone for herself... Damn it. Iconic, yes. MOST iconic? No. A sequel to Frontier or 7 would make more sense financially, and of the two, Kawamori has said that he does have an idea for the latter. (Although it’s equally unlikely that anything will come of that either, in my opinion) https://www.decultureshock.com/nhks-ultimate-macross-poll/ Quote
fhrex Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Differing fom the poll results, I take things differently: 1) Macross DYRL 2) Macross F movies 3) Macross SDF (originial TV) 4) Macross Plus 5) Macross F TV 6) Macross II 7) Macross Zero 8} Macross Delta 9) Macross 7 IMHO Edited April 13, 2020 by fhrex Quote
jeniusornome Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 It’s funny to me that Kaname was the most popular of the Delta characters. Quote
Tochiro Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, fhrex said: Differing fom the poll results, I take things differently: 1) Macross DYRL 2) Macross F movies 3) Macross SDF (originial TV) 4) Macross Plus 5) Macross F TV 6) Macross II 7) Macross Zero 8} Macross Delta 9) Macross 7 IMHO Hope you voted that way in the poll then :-) Quote
aurance Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 1:06 AM, jenius said: I want to see the mechs again more than the people. Is that odd? Maybe a story of the second MegaRoad or something along those lines where the VF-1 is the primary fighter, the destroids are present, and there's some VF-11 precursor (or SV-51 follow-up) as a special ops vehicle. Maybe sprinkle in some VF-4s. Heck, the bad guys can even be Zentraedi or "supervision army". If they want to have a tagalong from the original show, I wouldn't be against that shoehorn. Admiral Claudia? I also wouldn't be opposed to them getting pretty much wiped out halfway through the show, then teaming up with an alien civilization to create some really alien looking mecha, to finally overcome the baddies. I'm thinking like transformable Gradius fighters. I'm with Jenius, I definitely think the Minmei et al. stories are nicely finished, but I'd love to see another fleet from that era, classic mecha with modern CGI. VF-1's of course but I'd love a more star treatment of VF-4's and VF-5000's. Quote
Einherjar Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 There should be a very good reason to see these characters again outside of an anniversary project. Quote
Marzan Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 7:07 PM, Tochiro said: Iconic, yes. MOST iconic? No. A sequel to Frontier or 7 would make more sense financially, and of the two, Kawamori has said that he does have an idea for the latter. (Although it’s equally unlikely that anything will come of that either, in my opinion) https://www.decultureshock.com/nhks-ultimate-macross-poll/ I'd love a sequel of either. Yoshiki Fukuyama can still rock like the best of them and more Fire Bomber is always welcome for me. Quote
ErikElvis Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 I wouldn’t mind seeing something with them. Just watched dyrl and I know it’s a cartoon but I feel horrible for minmay. It’s a sad little love triangle. Quote
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