Official Tanmen Order Thread

[Grayson72]

Hey that's great, lets hope we didn't piss him off and that we get something out of him like models or money.

[robokochan]

Letter has been translated. I will send the info to Jesse and let him post it. I also called TANMEN and verified the information he wrote.

Info is coming soon.

Rob MN

[Grayson72]

Once again Monkey N is da man.

Bad Jessee for keeping me in suspense this late at night

[Myersjessee]

Okay....so no one is in suspense the news appears to be good and bad. In the last note I sent I tried to be fairly firm, but complimentary. I never threatened Tanmen, but I did say things like (this is prior to translation so it may not be exact )

"...I must insist you complete your deal with the members of MacrossWorld. You received our money on good faith over a year ago and must honor the commitment you made with us. "

As part of the note I offered three options to Tanmen.

1) pay us back - he had offered this, and it would seem the easiest. My concern was it's still a lot of money, and my fear was we would never see it. This is not to disparage Tanmen...just that it did not seem he had the money (hee had stated he could afford to pay us after Wonderfest... )

2) Send us a refund for everything but the Dragon models...and complete the Dragon models by April. This was the middle ground we discussed...where some of the money could be returned and the people waiting on Dragons could get them.

3) Send us the Dragons, and make up the difference in money owed with a couple particular models. This option also required an April conclusion. I have been keeping track of what people want...and confirmed with a few people that they would absolutely pay me asap if I coudl get them a Catseye (etc) I dont want to take any new money (not fair...and too confusing ) but I did offer Tanmen a chance to pay us with models....I would sell off the models to the perspective buyers and use the money to pay back the people who are owed. UP until now I have not spoken about this on the boards because I didnt want to confuse the issue and didn't want to be flooded with orders. Three of the orderers are on the original order and just want to swap out items they wont get with models, or get an extra model..there are two others not on the order. For those of you who will say "I want to be paid what I am owed" you will. I wouldn't offer this if I wasnt comfortable we would be paid...you have my word on it...if necessary I can resell items on Ebay. Anyways...I thought this was a smart offer to make for two reasons...1, it helps out more members, and people on the order. Two, it seemed more likely for us to get product over cash...and easier in terms of customs (I was not looking forward to explaining why I am getting large sums of money from Japan to the IRS ) So...that was the note...I can post it if people want.

The note we got back was long...it spent a lot of time talking about the Iraq situation, and US policy. It appears Tanmen is very political and not very happy with the US. In the note he suggests he will complete option 3 for us...but then goes on to talk about how the molds are having problems (or some molds) . On the good news side...he said he would do this. On the bad news side he made some concerning statements in his note like " You are in America, this is Japan. If we were in America you could sue me, but this is Japan so you can't." Rob says (and I agree ) I am not sure what he could mean by this...but it sounds bad.

Anyways..I will get the whole translation up soon...it is a very long note and not easy to understand so please all give Rob some time (and again..thanks to ROB!!! )

Edited March 7, 2004 by Myersjessee

[Spiff]

The note we got back was long...it spent a lot of time talking about the Iraq situation, and US policy. It appears Tanmen is very political and not very happy with the US. In the note he suggests he will complete option 3 for us...but then goes on to talk about how the molds are having problems (or some molds) . On the good news side...he said he would do this. On the bad news side he made some concerning statements in his note like " You are in America, this is Japan. If we were in America you could sue me, but this is Japan so you can't." Rob says (and I agree ) I am not sure what he could mean by this...but it sounds bad.

What kinda chicken crap is that!

I cant stand some people's philosophy either, but that doesnt justify me riping them off! I dont care what his beef is with US foriegn policy, his actions are reprehensible. So much for Japanese being honorable, I could go off more but its late and he sucks.......

[robokochan]

Spiff,

I agree that his business practices are not at all desirable. I personally do not have an order with him....I am just trying to help out as a contact in Japan. While I do feel that you have a right to be angry but let's not give Jesse any more stress than needed. I know that Jesse has tried extremely hard to get this situation resolved as quickly as possible. And I know that the situation will get resolved. Tanmen has said that he will complete things by this coming April.

I will make as many calls to him as necessary, I will even go as far as to go to his office if needed. It is only a two hour train ride away.

Rob MN

[Myersjessee]

Thanks Rob....Everyone...I just want to say publically ( again) thanks to Rob. He has a real job, real life, and no investment in this project...and yet he is investing lots of his time helping translate items, making phone calls, and soliciting advice. (not to mention the time of his wife, friends, etc! )

CHEERS ROB! THANKS!!!!!

[Shawn]

Unbelievable. His response infuriates me-'you cannot sue me'.

I cannot believe that attitude!

I'm really sorry about this deal.

Between Tanmen and Sakuragawa, it appears that dealing directly with the model makers in Japan is a bust.

He needs to follow up on his option #3-period.

Thanks again for your help Rob

[Myersjessee]

Unbelievable. His response infuriates me-'you cannot sue me'.

I cannot believe that attitude!

I'm really sorry about this deal.

Between Tanmen and Sakuragawa, it appears that dealing directly with the model makers in Japan is a bust.

He needs to follow up on his option #3-period.

Thanks again for your help Rob

We are not having great luck are we?!?!?!

Well...hopefully he will come through.... Shawn, you have nothing to be sorry for..I appreciate your advice through this whole process...and thanks for providing us with this forum to kibitz!

As for the translation Rob sent me a note letting me know it is still in process...the note is very long, and confusing. I told him not to rush, and thanked him again for all the extra support he is providing. Rob also arranged a phone call for us to clarify some items. Im going to try and catch up with Rob when the translation is done and we will post a complete update...hopefully by weeks end.

At this point, I am cautiousley hopeful that the anti-US and lawsuit stuff is just posturing...and that he will come through with the models for us... (option 3) At this point anything is better then nothing. I may just be a sucker...but it would seem if he just wanted to screw us he didn't need to send a note...not to mention a long, drawn out note. All this being said, I want to be careful. I appreciate Spiffs anger, and everyone elses for that matter but I want to be very careful how we convey that anger lest we give him the ammunition he needs to back out and save face.

Fingers...sore, and bruised...but still crossed.

[Less than Super Ostrich]

i have a feeling this thread will be pinned well into 2054... about the same time that Rocky XXXVI hits the screens.

[rocco_77]

Sorry to say this, but this guy is a jerk... plain and simple...

Jesse and Rob... Thanks a TON for what you've done here.

And Jesse, if there is a possiblity of me getting another model instead of a refund, I would be satisfied with that if it will help. (Cats Eye, or a Dragon, or another model of similar value to the VF-4 I ordered)

Thanks again, and good luck to all of us still waiting for Tanmen to come through...

After this debacle, I think he should be put on the Black list....

[cobywan]

The ifuriating thing is that we all wanted him to get our money. We always had the option of recasting his stuff. You can find all of his new stuff on Hobbyfand and E2046. I can't wait to find out what he was trying to say in his letter.

[Myersjessee]

Okay...here is his note to me...and a translation of the important stuff...it is not a translation of all the political mumbo-jumbo...as that was just taking to long...perhaps someone else can figure that out for us.

Dear Jesse,

こん＊＊は、

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING

長崎です。

なかなかお返事できずに申し訳ありません。

先日ようやく「ワンダーフェスティバル2004冬」が終りましたが、コ

ナミ（株）の方は「1/144 陸上自衛隊シリーズ」の評判が予想以上

に良かったことで、同社の「サンダーバードシリーズ」の原型製作

者を「自衛隊シリーズ」に戻そうとしている（もともとはこの原型師

が製作した原型で企画されたのですが、一度「保留＝企画倒れ」

になった過去があり、今回「売れる見込み」が出てきたところで「汚

名返上」のために、もう一度原型製作に戻そうとしているらしい…。）

ことで少々問題が生じています（私の方は今年の秋までのスケジュー

ルを空けてコナミ製品の原型製作にあてることにして、すでにすべ

ての原型製作の発注は受けているので、今さら「原型師を戻すか

ら…。」と言われても困るわけです。アメリカなら間違いなく裁判沙

汰だと思いますが、日本だとこういう場合は模型業界で仕事を続け

たければ原型師の方が割を食う形で決着せざるを得ないんですよ。

嫌なた世界だと思います。）ただ、今になってコナミ（株）の技術では

先日添付ファイルで送信した戦車のディテールを再現することがで

きそうもないということがわかり、私としてはいつでもコナミ（株）を切

り捨てられるように（株）バンダイの原型製作に復帰する準備を密か

に進めています。そんなこんなで「ワンフェス用の1/144戦車」の原

型も、「ドラゴンⅡ」の残りの部分の原型も現在製作中という状況で

す。

また、先日「超時空要塞マクロス」の「著作権」の所在を争う裁判で

「マクロスの著作権はタツノコ・プロダクションにある。」という結果が出

されたこともあり、今後「ワンフェス」などの「模型イベント」へ「マクロス

系」の作品を出品しようとすると、キットを販売するために必要になる

「当日版権（一日版権）」の申請やその結果の許諾に大きな影響がで

る可能性が出る（最悪の場合は当日版権が一切認められない。）こと

が懸念されるため、当分「UNCM」としては「模型イベント」へ「マクロス

系」アイテムを出品することは考えていません。ただ、コナミ（株）、

（株）バンダイの件の状況にもよりますが、「SD VF-1ストライク・バル

キリー」、「SD VF-1スーパー・バルキリー」は5月上旬にようやく型取

り、量産ができそうです。

さて、本題の件ですが、

> 選択１）私共がお支払いしたお金を返金して頂く。

> 　　　　　私共はあなた様のすばらしいモデルをとても

> 　　　　　尊敬していますので、これは最も選んで頂きたくない

> 　　　　　選択ですが、取引を終了するには致し方ない

> 　　　　　事だと思っております。

> 選択２）もしあなた様がDragon ll Modelを４月初旬に

> 　　　　　仕上げることが出来るならば、Dragon ll Modelを

> 　　　　　４つと￥５２，５００返金して頂く。

> 　　　　　これは２００４年４月までに仕上げることが可能

> 　　　　　な場合のみの選択となります。それ以降は

> 　　　　一切私共は待てないということをご了承

> 　　　　下さい。

> 選択３）払戻金の代わりに、他のキットに興味を示して

> 　　　　おられるお客様が数名いらっしゃいます。

> 　　　　もし払戻金の代わりにいくつかModel　(1/72 Cats

> Eye Modelを２つとDragon ll Modelを２つ）　を

> 　　　　付け加えてくださるなら、喜んで同意致します。

> 　　　　もしくは引き続き最後の注文と致しまして、

> 　　　　1/72 Scale Dragon llのキットを６つと 1/72 Scale

> Cats Eye Model　を２つお願い致します。

> 　　　　いづれも２００４年４月までに仕上げてくださると

> 　　　　いう条件付きです。

すでに「1/72 ファン・ライナー（機体、プロペラ）」、「1/72 キャッツ・アイ

（機体、左右主翼）」、「1/72 ドラゴンⅡ（機体）」の原型が壊れてしまっ

ているために、現在保有している量産型が破損してしまうと（複製の度

に少しずつシリコン型の劣化は進むもので、今でもかなり傷みがある

のですが…。）、量産そのものが「不可能」ということで「絶版」というこ

とになります。原型を元通りに修復できれば再度型取りをし直して量産

は可能ですが、上記のメーカーとの問題もあり、いま原型を修復しよう

としてもいつ頃終るかは判らない状況です。「ドラゴンⅡ」は本格的な量

産を行っていない分、型には問題は無いと思いますが、「キャッツ・アイ」

と「ファン・ライナー」はあと4～5回、もしくは5～6回の複製作業で完全に

「複製不可能」なほどに傷んでしまうと思います。原型の修復にも時間が

かかりそうですし、今後のイベントへの出品も可能性が少ないので、量

産用の型が壊れた時点でそれらのアイテムは「生産終了」としてしまうつ

もりです。

「キャッツ・アイ」のキットをご希望の方がいらっしゃるなら、「1/72 キャッ

ツ・アイ」に取っては最後の複製になると思いますが、3)のご提案を選択

したいところですが、「型」を今以上に壊さないように量産を進めるとなる

と「ドラゴンⅡ」の追加注文が増える分「4月まで」というのが少々きびしい

かもしれません。「ドラゴンⅡ」×8、「キャッツ・アイ」×4ですから、新品の

量産型の状態で複製できたとしても、複製作業、事後硬化期間、複製後

のゲート処理、パーツの不良確認、パーツ仕分け、欠品確認、梱包、発

送準備という一連の作業だけで2週間強の時間がかかる作業ですので、

「型」をいたわりながらとなると、3週間前後の時間はかかると思うので発

送できるのが4月上旬になると思います。

また、その他の製作予定のアイテムに関しては「イベント出品」とは関係

なく、完成までにどれくらいの時間がかかるか判りませんが製作は続ける

つもりです。アメリカではどのような状況か判りませんが、日本では「キャ

ラクターものは版権が無ければ造ってはいけない！」という間違った認識

が「ワンフェス」などの「模型イベント」を通じて一般的な考え方になってし

まったため、私のホームページに関しても「著作権侵害だ！」というメール・

ウィルス付きのメールや、「版権元に通報されたくなければキットをよこ

せ！」というような完全に「脅迫」にあたる内容のメールが数多く届き、「キャ

ラクターもの」のキットの製作に少々嫌気がさしているというのはあるので

すが、コナミ（株）やバンダイ（株）など「キャラクター版権」に基づいた製品

開発を行っている企業から「原型製作」の依頼を受けられるということで、

私の「キャラクター版権」に関する考え方は間違っていないと考えています。

ただ、ホームページに画像を掲載すれば、「キャラクター版権」に詳しくな

い方から、またそのようなメールが届くことは必至なので今後も当分の間

「キャラクター系作品」の画像はアップロードしないつもりです。

現状では具体的な時期は判りませんが、「キャラクター関係の作品」はす

べて「パスワード」で保護された「会員限定ページ」に移す考えでいます。

「パスワード」は「マクロス系」、「ガンダム系」を問わず、「キャラクター系」

のキットを「個人売買」でご購入いただいた皆様にだけお知らせします。

ということで、お返事が遅れて申し訳ありませんでしたが、「3)のご提案」と

いうことで今後の作業を進めさせてもらいたいと思います。

よろしくお願いいたします。m(_ _)m

P.S.　「スーパー・チュースデイ」の結果、「ケリー氏」がブッシュ大統領の対

立候補に選ばれたようで、もし次期アメリカ大統領として選出されれば、「ベ

トナム戦争」の本当の「戦場」を知っている方だけに、むやみに若者を戦場

に送ることはしないのではないか？混乱の続く「イラク問題」もこれ以上の

犠牲を出さずに上手く解決に導いてくれるのではないか？と期待していま

す。もしかしたら「イラク」で戦死されたアメリカ兵の中にも「マクロス・ファン」

の方がいて、私の「模型」に興味を持ってくださっていたら…と考えると、毎

日のように伝えられる「爆弾テロ」などによる「アメリカ兵の犠牲者」のニュー

スにはいたたまれません。独立した一つの国として大変情けないことですが、

今の「日本」にできることは「アメリカ」に従うだけなので、「アメリカ」の新しい

大統領に「戦わない！」という選択をしてもらえれば…と願っています。また、

私は「長崎」という「原爆」を投下された街と同じ名前に生まれた以上、どん

な理由があったとしても「戦争」を肯定することはできません。「イラク攻撃」

に踏み切った「ブッシュ大統領」を今後も私のホームページの中で批判し続

けるつもりですが、遠く「イラク」の地で「戦死」された方、「負傷」された方、今

もなお戦い続けている「アメリカ兵」の方々に心から感謝します。本当にどう

もありがとう！「太平洋戦争」が終結して50年以上、「日本」には未だに本当

の「民主主義」が根付いていません。「イラク」に「民主主義」が根付くのにこ

の先どのくらいの時間がかかるのか見当もつきませんが、現在「イラク」に派

遣されている方々が一日も早く無事に帰国を果たされることを祈ります。

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING

長崎 美治

7 March,2004

－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING(UNCM)

〒232-0051 神奈川県横浜市南区井土ヶ谷上町23-30

TEL/FAX 045-741-2734

e-mail uncm@nifty.com

tanmen@246.ne.jp

tanmen@q02.itscom.net

URL http://homepage2.nifty.com/uncm/index.htm

http://www.246.ne.jp/~tanmen/index.htm

http://home.p08.itscom.net/tanmen/index.html

[Myersjessee]

and...the important translated parts

(thanks Rob! )

Dear Jesse,

Finally "The Wonder Festival in 2004" was over.

As there was beyond good reputation about

"1/144 the self-defence force series" of KONAMI,

KONAMI tries to get an original model malker of

"Thunder Bird Series" back to "1/144 The Self-

Defence Force Series". I have some problems

about that. Because I was asked to be an

original model maker of KONAMI production.

And I have already made a fully schedule for that

until this fall. The plan shouldn't be changed.

I know that You can sue for that in USA.

I'm ready to come back for BANDAI original

model maker so that I can leave KONAMI

whenever I want. This is why I am still on my

way to make "1/144 a tank" for the event

and "Dragon2 model".

The other day there was a trial for Macros

copyright. TATSUNOKO production won.

So we are not going to exhibit Macros items

for the event any more.

Choice1)

Choice2)

Choice3)

As "1/72 Fan liner(Body and propeller)" and

"1/72 Cats Eye Model (body and wings)" had

been broken, if the mass production we have now were damaged, we couldn't

make it possible to

produce or to the matters worse out of

production. The more we copy, the worse they

break. We have no idea when it's done. If we

do it four or five times more, we will never

be able to copy it again. This is the very last

time to copy cats eye model. We'd like to choose number 3, but it is very

difficult the deadline by April. We'll try our best but it takes at least

3 weeks. We'll be able to send them beginning

of April.

I get tired of getting e-mail with viruses.

So I am not going to put pictures of character

items on my homepage. But I will have a

special password to look into my homepage.

I will tell the password to only customers.

I would like to choose number 3.

Robby/Monkey-Nugget

[Myersjessee]

so...sounds like he will try for April...but thats a stretch....Im not sure why he references fanracer and fanliner molds being shot (we are not owed any of them)...but it does sound like they will be getting out of the Macross business, or at least not doing it through WF...which would seem to be an impact. Considering they were not at WF this year I am not suprised he is not suggesting he pay us back. Hopefully he can finish up the Dragon mold and pay us back in April in models...

[Less than Super Ostrich]

woe is me.

Edited March 10, 2004 by Less than Super Ostrich

[imode]

Translating the P.S.

P.S. With the results of Super Tuesday out, it seems that Kerry has been nominated as the democratic candidate to challenge President Bush. If he becomes the next president, then perhaps his experiences in the battlefields in Vietnam will prevent him from recklessly sending our young people to war. I am hoping that he may even be able to end the continuing confusion over Iraq and successfully bring this problem to a close without sacrificing any further lives. For me, the possibility that I may one day learn that among the American soldiers killed in Iraq or yet another killed by a suicide bomber-- that just maybe one of them could have been a fan of my models is more than I can bear. As an independant country, it seems somewhat pathetic that all Japan can do is just follow the orders given to us by America. For that reason, I pray that there will be a new president who will finally choose to end the fighting. My name is the same as the city that was attacked by a nuclear bomb. For that reason, there is no way I can ever justify any sort of war. On my homepage, I will continue to criticize President Bush for jumping into this war, but I am truly thankful to those that have been killed, injured and even those Americans who continue to fight. They have my sincerest thanks. Even more than 50 years after the end of World War II, Japan still hasn't become a true democracy. No one knows how long it will take for the seeds of democracy to take root in Iraq, but I will be praying for the quick return of all those involved.

[EXO]

Translating the P.S.

P.S. With the results of Super Tuesday out, it seems that Kerry has been nominated as the democratic candidate to challenge President Bush. If he becomes the next president, then perhaps his experiences in the battlefields in Vietnam will prevent him from recklessly sending our young people to war. I am hoping that he may even be able to end the continuing confusion over Iraq and successfully bring this problem to a close without sacrificing any further lives. For me, the possibility that I may one day learn that among the American soldiers killed in Iraq or yet another killed by a suicide bomber-- that just maybe one of them could have been a fan of my models is more than I can bear. As an independant country, it seems somewhat pathetic that all Japan can do is just follow the orders given to us by America. For that reason, I pray that there will be a new president who will finally choose to end the fighting. My name is the same as the city that was attacked by a nuclear bomb. For that reason, there is no way I can ever justify any sort of war. On my homepage, I will continue to criticize President Bush for jumping into this war, but I am truly thankful to those that have been killed, injured and even those Americans who continue to fight. They have my sincerest thanks. Even more than 50 years after the end of World War II, Japan still hasn't become a true democracy. No one knows how long it will take for the seeds of democracy to take root in Iraq, but I will be praying for the quick return of all those involved.

Tanmen... here... have Big Mac and STFU!!!

[Spiff]

Hrmmffff!

Its so hard to make heads or tails of his note. But if the tone was correct sounding to me he may yet pull through. But I am not going to hold my breath or put a stay on the boycot, not till he comes through. Even then I will never order direct from him again. What a frickin mess this has been, I just wanted some SD macross........

And of course many thanks to Jesse and Rob.

Edited March 11, 2004 by Spiff

[Myersjessee]

I can't disagree with his sentiment in the PS (the idea that he doens't want young men and women killed)...but I also can't help but feeling that he is off topic. I would really like to appreciate his position...but it feels like he is confusing two very different topics.

IMode...thanks!

[Myersjessee]

quick update....no update.

I am going to give Tanmen till April 6th....1 month from his last email...then I will pleasently ask for an update.

[kb-]

i came across this thread while searching for any posts on phrase vf-4. after reading all of the frustrated & angry reponses i had to read the entire thread to make sure i understood the situation better.

i completely understand & sympathize with the language barrier difficulties in dealing with international sellers. the desire to have the items sometimes clouds a person/collectors judgement. in that you'll except certain ridiculous situations.

if it was me i would have given a few months but not an entire year to finish the transaction.

besides that i have to say that i'm impressed with members here. big props to myers & rob. both of you are a credit to the collecting community.

anyways i hope the group gets the models or the refund. good luck

[Myersjessee]

Thanks.

Well..some good news... (maybe) Got a note from Tanmen...WOOWHOO! If I read correctly it sounds like the kits are nearly done and he expects to ship this month. There seems to be some comment about the metal parts and canopies needing to be finished...but it sounds like he may be able to come through with the Dragons...wouldn't that be cool!

Well..fingers crossed!

Jesse

P.S. I sent this off to Rob and asked him translate another for us...but here is the original in case anyone else can help (hate to keep asking Rob)

Dear Jesse,

こん＊＊は、

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING

長崎です。

「マクロス・キット」、お待たせしてすみません。「キャノピー」、「金属部品」

など、あといくつかの部品がそろえば発送できます。キットの方は製作

時期の違いから、いろいろな色の部品が混ざっていますが組み立てに

は問題ありませんのでご了承いただけますようお願いいたします。

ただ、「1/72 ドラゴンⅡ」は完成見本を製作する時間が無いため「組立

図」、「デカール」は後日別便で発送させていただきます。

「キット」は、来週中に発送する予定ですので、そちら（アメリカ）へは今月

中に届くと思います。

ということで、取り急ぎ現状のお知らせまで。

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING

長崎　美治

13 Aplir,2004

－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－

UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING(UNCM)

〒232-0051 神奈川県横浜市南区井土ヶ谷上町23-30

TEL/FAX 045-741-2734

e-mail uncm@nifty.com

tanmen@246.ne.jp

tanmen@q02.itscom.net

URL http://homepage2.nifty.com/uncm/index.htm

http://www.246.ne.jp/~tanmen/index.htm

http://home.p08.itscom.net/tanmen/index.html

[rocco_77]

Seems pretty positive... Thanks for the update Jesse..

[Grayson72]

Ah geez, just tell him to send us what he's got and we'll figure out how to create canopies and landing gear.

[Myersjessee]

Ah geez, just tell him to send us what he's got and we'll figure out how to create canopies and landing gear.

Actually, I think that is what he is going to do. The more I run this through translators the more it sounds like he will ship the kits minus the white metal parts, decals, and instructions and send those later. I'm waiting on Monkeys' translation, but his quick review seemed to match up with that. I want the complete kit...but give the option of nothing, or scratch building some landing gear and a canopy I'd say get me the damn kit!

[Spiff]

Here's the babel fish translation,

Densely it is * *, it is UNCONTEMPORARY MODELING Nagasaki. The "マクロス kit", make wait it may not do. If "the canopy" and the "metal part" and so on, the rear several parts are even, it can dispatch. As for the kit from the difference of production time, the part of various colors blends, but being there is no problem in the assembly, acknowledgement that it can receive, we ask. Simply, "1/72 dragons? "Because there is no time when completion sample is produced the" assembling drawing "," decare "dispatches with the future separate mail. As for "the kit", because it is the schedule which dispatches during next week, you think that there (America) to it reaches during this month. With you take and hurry with the notion that where you say, to the news of present condition.

Edited April 22, 2004 by Spiff

[phatslappy]

Hey Jesse, were you able to find out if any of us who were owed something that isn't going to happen would be able to get a dragon instead?

[rocco_77]

Well, it's almost been another month... Not to be a pest, but, what is the deal... Jesse, when do you think we are going to hear from him again?

I don't want a Dragon, or anything else... I just want my money for the VF-4...

[Myersjessee]

Nothing new to update as of now. I have sent off yet another note to Tanmen asking for a status...sorry...wish I could do more.

[robokochan]

I will give TANMEN another call tomorrow. I will post the results directly to Jesse.

Rob MN

[rocco_77]

Thanks a bunch MonkeyNug!

[Myersjessee]

YEAH! Thanks ROB!!!! MonkeyNugget to the rescue...again!

[Grayson72]

Ha ha, that's right, sic the Monkey on him

[neptunesurvey]

Some more birthday goodies.