ArchieNov Posted Sunday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:32 PM 1 hour ago, treatment said: Yotsuba Toy Club posted their review (enable CC option for language subs): Man, I was willing to forgive most of the stuff that was upsetting people about this YF-21. But one thing I cannot accept is seeing how the shoulders do not tab into place in battroid mode. Should those joints loosen up, the arms will become so floppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted Sunday at 09:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:13 PM Does anyone know why Bandai included dummy gun pods? Also that little U-pin for the backpack is really saying a lot about Bandai’s oversight on this. And for no reason at all, you need to place an adapter to keep the body and backpack locked together. What is this a VF-2SS Hi-Metal R type of solution? So many disappointing choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted Sunday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:29 PM 4 hours ago, treatment said: Yotsuba Toy Club posted their review (enable CC option for language subs): Bandai.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PointBlankSniper Posted Sunday at 09:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:59 PM 32 minutes ago, nightmareB4macross said: Does anyone know why Bandai included dummy gun pods? Also that little U-pin for the backpack is really saying a lot about Bandai’s oversight on this. And for no reason at all, you need to place an adapter to keep the body and backpack locked together. What is this a VF-2SS Hi-Metal R type of solution? With belly fast pack plates on, if you had the real gun pods, the landing gears won't reach the floor by just a couple hairs or so. As for why it's designed like that after going so far with fudging all the proportions and mechanisms, it's probably same reason that the pin and battroid adapter exists... It also seems they designed it so the real gun pods can't be used with the FP, so that you can't make the grave mistake of forgoing displaying it on wheels, just to keep all the perfect transformation parts together. Also, you can't exactly perfect transform anyway, because once again, we look to the pin and adapter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM (edited) https://x.com/MTM_025_8_S04/status/1807322194248388844 web-translated: add: snapshot from the BD (upped exposure and saturation since the native shot was too dark for details): Edited Sunday at 10:56 PM by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froy Posted Sunday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:59 PM (edited) Oddly, line art show them colored but animated are clear. Edited Sunday at 11:02 PM by Froy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PointBlankSniper Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM Seems like it's schrodinger's right and wrong. It's transparent with a recessed red part, so all versions are kind of right and kind of wrong at the same time lol. Looks like Yotsuba Toy Club just said "F DA BRACE" and pretended it doesn't exist lol. Doing that seems to come with the added bonus of dropping the giant collar plate out of sight. That's how we've been seeing different "adjustable" heights of the backpack. Kind of appalling why Bandai couldn't have snuck in a fold out brace from between the engines in place of the dedicated battroid brace peg slot though. That space should be hollow towards the tail half, and able to fit a girthy support bar. It could probably have even served double duty as the lock pin if it folded up toward the front too... But since the pin isn't exactly necessary either, I guess the whole thing could still be considered perfect transformation. That is, ignoring the FP gunpods.... 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted Sunday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:21 PM Well, somebody was bound to try this mode after the HMR VF-0A... https://x.com/otoha_42d/status/1807460236485431629 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazam Posted Sunday at 11:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:52 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZYZY Posted Monday at 03:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:08 AM Just got my copy this morning from HLJ. Antennae was bent. I have no idea how this can even happen. The plane is not loose in the box, I tried shaking it. No signs of dent on the plastic cover. But still dent... fml. Seems like it was dent intentionally before it was packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYcHoDyNaMiX Posted Monday at 03:24 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:24 AM 15 minutes ago, ZYZY said: Just got my copy this morning from HLJ. Antennae was bent. I have no idea how this can even happen. The plane is not loose in the box, I tried shaking it. No signs of dent on the plastic cover. But still dent... fml. Seems like it was dent intentionally before it was packed. Spoiler Geez, this is apparently more widespread. Just about 20+ minutes ago someone else (from Taiwan) posted on one of the fb groups with the same problem. 🤕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted Monday at 03:42 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:42 AM (edited) 35 minutes ago, ZYZY said: Just got my copy this morning from HLJ. Antennae was bent. I have no idea how this can even happen. The plane is not loose in the box, I tried shaking it. No signs of dent on the plastic cover. But still dent... fml. Seems like it was dent intentionally before it was packed. Aww, that sux! Were you able to communicate with HLJ regarding their response to this issue? Mine seems to have just landed at LA earlier, per DHLtracking. Expecting delivery tomorrow and really pryaing I don't get upsettingly Bandai'ed with a rather expensive toy... Edited Monday at 03:45 AM by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZYZY Posted Monday at 04:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:08 AM 25 minutes ago, treatment said: Aww, that sux! Were you able to communicate with HLJ regarding their response to this issue? Mine seems to have just landed at LA earlier, per DHLtracking. Expecting delivery tomorrow and really pryaing I don't get upsettingly Bandai'ed with a rather expensive toy... Not yet. Will keep yall posted. Saw a post on FB from a hongkong group. At least 7/10 ppl are having this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted Monday at 04:15 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:15 AM 4 minutes ago, ZYZY said: Not yet. Will keep yall posted. Saw a post on FB from a hongkong group. At least 7/10 ppl are having this issue. this one seems newly posted and japan-based: https://x.com/himajinFigNeo/status/1807583253374878061 web-translated: Incidentally, are the the "bends" specifically that way? I haven't seen a posted bent-laser that isn't like that, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZYZY Posted Monday at 04:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:21 AM 5 minutes ago, treatment said: this one seems newly posted and japan-based: https://x.com/himajinFigNeo/status/1807583253374878061 web-translated: Incidentally, are the the "bends" specifically that way? I haven't seen a posted bent-laser that isn't like that, yet. Seems like alot are in this direction... which is odd. Have not seen any bending the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froy Posted Monday at 04:23 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:23 AM Just now, treatment said: this one seems newly posted and japan-based: https://x.com/himajinFigNeo/status/1807583253374878061 web-translated: Incidentally, are the the "bends" specifically that way? I haven't seen a posted bent-laser that isn't like that, yet. Handling at packing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted Monday at 04:26 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:26 AM Nin-Nin-Game messaged that they haven't shipped their stock yet. I think they will continue to bubble wrap their items so that the toy packaging cannot be pressed down to bend the antenna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted Monday at 04:43 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:43 AM For the price being charged, why not just pack it separated but securely? They already did that with the exhaust paddles. How can the same company that churns out quality SOC’s be the same one that designed and made this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted Monday at 04:46 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:46 AM @ZYZY sorry to hear this. Yeah the HK / Taiwan groups are reporting about 2 cases daily, & you are right, they all bend in that one direction. Unlike the YF-19 Full Pack, there’s actually quite a bit of clearance between the tip of head laser to the top of the plastic bubble. If there aren’t any scuffs on the plastic bubble itself where the head laser come into contact with, then it points to the issue already happening at factory during packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted Monday at 04:48 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:48 AM I saw in one of the reviews you can snap/pop it out of the head...could you heat it up...say hair dryer and slowly slowly slowly bend it back and leave it in a mini vice/clip for a few days to have it remember the shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted Monday at 04:55 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:55 AM Originally only ordered 1 but went ahead and ordered a second copy in the hope that at least one will arrive unbroken. Also, F U Bandai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZYZY Posted Monday at 05:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:01 AM 11 minutes ago, Shawn said: I saw in one of the reviews you can snap/pop it out of the head...could you heat it up...say hair dryer and slowly slowly slowly bend it back and leave it in a mini vice/clip for a few days to have it remember the shape? I don't think it will fix the problem. Cuz when it's bent, u can already see the stress marks. This is quite disappointing. I have another on the way as well. Totally not surprised if i get the same issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwhangchoi Posted Monday at 05:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:04 AM damn i have two copies on order w a US company that will arrive later than import orders... not a good feeling with multiple reports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatBoutMyStar Posted Monday at 05:06 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:06 AM 10 minutes ago, Shawn said: I saw in one of the reviews you can snap/pop it out of the head...could you heat it up...say hair dryer and slowly slowly slowly bend it back and leave it in a mini vice/clip for a few days to have it remember the shape? I've done this on bent plastic with the heat, reshape, and then dump in cold water technique, but the bent plastic was a bit thicker than a valk's head laser where I would think this sort of bend really compromises the whole structural integrity. I'd probably expect the piece to just snap after heating up and trying to bend it back into shape even slowly, but I guess the piece is essentially ruined anyway so perhaps it's worth a shot. At this point, Bandai might as well start packaging their valks with the head lasers or antennas off and put it with the accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted Monday at 05:51 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:51 AM Even a bunch of the Robot Spirits mobile suits I've bought have had detachable V fins and antennae and even spares. And they cost a fraction of the price of the YF-21. This piss poor packing would be unacceptable even at the $50 price range, much less at the YF-21's price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted Monday at 06:59 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:59 AM 1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said: damn i have two copies on order w a US company that will arrive later than import orders... not a good feeling with multiple reports I'm considering cancelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PointBlankSniper Posted Monday at 07:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:08 AM Are they all literally only bent to the right? My conspiracy brain is starting to think whole batches of these were rolled off the mold or through some other proceedure already crooked, and then assembled as is. Everyone down the assembly line somehow weren't paid enough to care, or collectively were covering up for some mistake. Or it was perfectly fine until the last person in line happened to be the legendary disgruntled employee out for some deliberate sabotaging... Bandai probably found out somewhere along the way, but couldn't be arsed to pay for more man hours to unpack everything and QC all over again, as well as divert components for repairs. So now they are having customers QC their own units, while shirking off some of the blame on shipping. With this scheme, they can also run a replacement parts production batch, only after they've fulfilled deliveries of complete units. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted Monday at 07:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:13 AM LOL, it's almost certainly the shape of the blister the toy is packed in: if pressure is applied on the left side the blister is better supported, if pressure is applied on the right side the blister gives and the fin gets crushed. Though not exaclty the same, that's also how the YF-19 lasers broke... the blister would give if the box took a shock during shipping and snap the laser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroking Posted Monday at 08:43 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:43 AM I can confirm I got a bent/stressed antenna out of the box. The problem is the bubble packaging but not what many would think. The problem is that the length of the bubble where the antenna is too short. Any compressing would make the bubble touch the tip of the antenna from the side. If you don't want to waste 300 dollars I recommend waiting for a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted Monday at 09:48 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:48 AM (edited) Broken head lasers and possibly a shoulder misassembly issue - has anyone else reported incorrect shoulder joints? We got Bandaied(TM)! Edited Monday at 09:53 AM by Sildani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted Monday at 10:35 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:35 AM I am praying that at least 1 of my 2 will arrive without QC issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikkonen Posted Monday at 10:35 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:35 AM (edited) Wow... Last pages quite a intriguing read. Again I'll say it, glad I'm not a fan of the 21. IMO (Solely based on my engineering/design and collector background), it appears Bandai changed design team working on this particular 21 a couple of times. There's methodology of techniques that don't blend. It's as if there was a initial team that did all the ground work, then instead of ironing out all the oddities after the first prototypes, they shelfed until a different design team picked it up to add their quick clean up to rush it out on the market. A few examples to back this up. The gerwalk Pin goes against previous DX philosophies, as does that backpack holder. They're like the quickest last moment solutions. Edited Monday at 10:39 AM by Raikkonen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIymij Posted Monday at 10:46 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:46 AM (edited) Sad and happy at the same time. Praying that hobby genki will pull through I think if they could have made the legs and cockpit work in the HG yf-21, it would have been a banger. Edited Monday at 10:58 AM by IIymij Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroking Posted Monday at 10:51 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:51 AM 5 hours ago, ZYZY said: I don't think it will fix the problem. Cuz when it's bent, u can already see the stress marks. This is quite disappointing. I have another on the way as well. Totally not surprised if i get the same issue. Yes, mine had the stress marks. I do not consider myself picky, but for the price I was really angry to see the stress marks and no spare parts. Again, I think the problem is the bubble packaging itself, not how well it has been protected while shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actar Posted Monday at 12:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:42 PM (edited) The transformable gunpods can fit under the plane (without the packs), but there is pretty much zero extra clearance. Wish the front of the gunpods were secured as well, like on the Yamato. Edited Monday at 12:42 PM by Actar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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