leeboo1211 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, technoblue said: As long as we’re all speculating, Bandai could be saving this so that its release coincides with the WWM release of Macross Plus on blu-ray. Stranger things have happened… Seems like a stretch but I'll be happy if it happens. Cmon Bandai just do it already!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I got fooled into thinking there was real news too - especially seeing so many replies in my email, I thought there must be something up instead of just one person wondering - oops, well I guess I just added to that list of replies. Sure do hope this sees the light of day, its the whole reason I hunted down the YF-19 afterwards and I'm glad I did or I would have missed out on a nice toy - so much better than the VF-19 money grab they put out beforehand (of course I got suckered in and now I have both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokeijon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 hours ago, borgified said: It’s not going to be released in our lifetime @Sokeijon as our grandkids are going to get it (unless your willing to have it delivered to into your coffin six feet below or have it placed with you alongside in a crypt on a memorial wall). LOL~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, mechaninac said: In all fairness, speculation, conjecture, hope, disappointment and coping are all time honored MW traditions... Wouldn't be MW without it. However 3 years later without a single mention, I'm going with this project has been shelved for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just patiently waiting.. and hoping that Bandai will finally open the floodgates for DX YF-21 & VF-22 once Mac Plus & Mac 7 officially lands on worldwide Blu-Ray or streaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkAddict Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) On 9/13/2022 at 12:51 PM, no3Ljm said: Well, atleast in this lifetime, we have the photos to stare at. That's why I'm going to repost some old photos to make you excited once again. ^ Wow, that underbelly is looking really chunky. Not sure about fighter mode .... Edited September 15, 2022 by ValkAddict unable to see comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 All those photos do is keep reminding me what they did wrong in designing the battroid mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mog said: All those photos do is keep reminding me what they did wrong in designing the battroid mode. This. I know lots of people love the better legs, but it feels like that's the only thing they actually got right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 dangit guys I got psyched there was new info when I saw this thread pop up back top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-1s Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I got excited too and I don't even collect anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownIsUp Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Mog said: All those photos do is keep reminding me what they did wrong in designing the battroid mode. He's got the thicker legs that fix my main issue with the Yamato YF-21, but everything else is oddly stocky? Still looks gorgeous in Fighter mode tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 <sigh>: * Hip guards are all wrong and too short. * Arms are a little too thin. * A third of the underbelly goes to the battroid backpack. This design choice seems to do no favors for Gerwalk mode (gonna be a bunch of kibble hanging off the back or covering up where the ventral boosters should go). * This “third of the underbelly” design choice ALSO adds unnecessary complications when they add the FAST pack armors. Another member posted a pic with all the issues he had with Bandai’s rendition, back on page 10. But these have been and continue to be my biggest gripes with Bandai’s prototype. I don’t mind different choices or favoring battroid over fighter. But Bandai’s choices—especially with the hip guards/underbelly—just made no damn sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froy Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 You either have a slim and aerodynamic fighter with a skinny batroid mode or a well proportionated batroid mode with an absolute chunk of fighter mode. I wouldn't be too picky. The 21 by far, might, gotta be the most anime magic affected valk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 ^^The VF-17 is up there too on the anime magic need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity is Optional Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Anything before Zero and Frontier, when they started using actual 3D CAD models for everything, was pretty heavy on the anime magic. This is just normal for Bandai, take a look at their Metal Build figures, or RG/MG/PG gundam kits and compare them to the screen versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) The D'stance YF-21 had a pretty good balance of proportions overall. The only issues I had with it was that the neck in fighter mode was just way too long and could have used some covers over the arms. That Hi-metal prototype that was shown years ago also looked pretty good. While I really want a new YF-21 designed to today's standards, I didn't feel like the one they showed early in this thread was it. To me, it didn't look good in any mode. D'stance YF-21 The fighter is still sleek but why this? Hi-Metal prototype. This seems pretty good too. There was a lot of anime magic in the YF-19 also, but both Yamato/Arcadia and Bandai found a good balance and made them look good in all modes. It would be nice if that same sort of engineering skill could be put toward a DX YF-21. Edited September 15, 2022 by MacrossJunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Considering how Hasegawa put out a 1/48th YF-19 kit a long time ago now.. and has yet to even touch the YF-21 again? I feel like, despite him being more of a secondary main-character/anti-hero in Plus, Guld fell into the unwanted villain mecha trope, and no one wants to bother with him. Maybe the demand for it just isn't there. Considering how many times Arcadia has reissued their YF-19, and has yet to touch the YF-21, I'm thinking they just can't justify the gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, MacrossJunkie said: First time seeing D'stance's kit, and gotta say that's a nice solution to lengthen or shorten the nose as necessary, although it is a bit overdone for Fighter. This may not be canon, but I don't mind if Bandai adopts this for their DX, as per the modified belly plate lengths for their prototype, so long as the results still look clean. I think these changes to get around the anime magic is still quite acceptable, so long as it generally still complies with the core transformation envisioned by Kawamori. After all, the DX VF/YF-19 added the collapsing calf panels, itself inspired by the SHE kit (?), and the results were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Having finally acquired a Yamato VF-22 not too long ago, I have to say I’m not overly pleased with Bandai’s effort. Fighter mode is too chunky, there are too many markings, and given Bandai’s lack of QC these past few years I have no confidence they’ll put these out either working or looking correct. We’ve just witnessed a time where Bandai had a nigh-perfect toy in the VF-31 and then took all that engineering and completely screwed up the 31AX follow-up. So nah, that’s a no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkAddict Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Sildani said: .... Bandai’s lack of QC these past few years I have no confidence they’ll put these out either working or looking correct. We’ve just witnessed a time where Bandai had a nigh-perfect toy in the VF-31 and then took all that engineering and completely screwed up the 31AX follow-up. ^ Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswoo Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 lately Bandai is losing their quaility even among the Metal Build gundam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgified Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 I have all three versions of the Yammie VF-22 and the delimiter mode is questionable for me honestly (all stored in their respective boxes for now until I have time to set up a Macross display). I actually want to see a possible HMR version of the YF-21 however Bandai has different plans (as they always do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I wouldn't mind if the YF-21 was a WWM release like their other two DX WWM blue themed Valk releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 12 hours ago, chriswoo said: lately Bandai is losing their quaility even among the Metal Build gundam. Oh, have they been screwing those up too? It's not just the Macross license being neglected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity is Optional Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Mommar said: Oh, have they been screwing those up too? It's not just the Macross license being neglected? Everyone and everything has been having quality issues due to supply chain/COVID issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechuck Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Mommar said: Oh, have they been screwing those up too? It's not just the Macross license being neglected? I recently got the MB Hi-Nu and I would not subscribe to the notion there are quality issues for the line. If you look into this forum's very own MB thread, then most of the complaining pertains to the usual Bandai pre-order shenanigans, scarcity and of course pricing. There isn't much talk about quality issues or decline thereof. As for Bandai Macross stuff... I'm glad they still have interest in making new product, even if it sometimes means we have to deal with fit and alignment issues. The day Bandai stops offering Valkyrie toys is the day we start talking about neglect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 8:42 PM, ValkAddict said: ^ Wow, that underbelly is looking really chunky. Not sure about fighter mode .... As a tradeoff for a better Battroid- I'm sold. I'd take that glorious thing as-is if they decided to just go ahead and market it. If fighter is your thing, Yamato already produced what is likely to remain for some time an unparalleled YF-21 with a focus on fighter mode. It's gorgeous. But the B-mode took the brunt of the concessions with its skinny disproportionate legs, and since I favor Battroid and display my valks as such, I want what Bandai is doing with their take. In the worst way possible. Since I boxed up my Yammie, my display isn't quite complete- need that YF-21 to make the world right again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Arcadia needs to beat them to the powered punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboo1211 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 10 hours ago, lechuck said: I recently got the MB Hi-Nu and I would not subscribe to the notion there are quality issues for the line. If you look into this forum's very own MB thread, then most of the complaining pertains to the usual Bandai pre-order shenanigans, scarcity and of course pricing. There isn't much talk about quality issues or decline thereof. There have definitely been paint issues across the board and with the face markings being slightly off. Their QC has taken a hit and has been reflected by multiple reviewers. One good example is the entire shipment of the MB Red Dragonics had the flight pack lower stabilizer wings all installed inverted so they splay inwards instead of outwards, so Bandai had to do a recall and replace them all, and delaying the entire 2nd batch so they could fix it prior to sending out. It's not disastrous, but there definitely is a decline in quality as they struggle to keep things going amongst the still draconic covid lock downs in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboo1211 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Did Yamato ever do a PF version of the YF-21 or vf-22? Most my valks are in fighter mode so I would get a yammie but I just hate their molded plastic finish... The Bandai YF-19 nails the finish, as did the YF-29 and all their later releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, leeboo1211 said: Did Yamato ever do a PF version of the YF-21 or vf-22? Most my valks are in fighter mode so I would get a yammie but I just hate their molded plastic finish... The Bandai YF-19 nails the finish, as did the YF-29 and all their later releases. Negative. No PF YF-21 or VF-22 from Yamato. Bandai originally released the YF-29 with their shiny plastic finish. They switched to a matte finish only on the most recent reissue of Alto which was well received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 After looking at the yf-21 pictures for this and the hi metal prototype, I prefer the look of the hmr. I do think it’s more likely that since the 19 is getting a model kit that the most likely 21 that Bandai will do is a yf-21 kit to go along with it. I’m curious on both of those since all we got so far is a dark silhouette picture of the vf-19 kit, but they seem further along with that project than this at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froy Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, leeboo1211 said: Did Yamato ever do a PF version of the YF-21 or vf-22? Most my valks are in fighter mode so I would get a yammie but I just hate their molded plastic finish... The Bandai YF-19 nails the finish, as did the YF-29 and all their later releases. Nope. Just regular releases. And only the original release came with fast packs. If you wanted fast packs for the 21 you had to hunt down the fold booster bundle with pack for both 19 and 21. Edited September 17, 2022 by Froy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Hope they release one quickly, I sold mine recently due to a move and would like one since it's my fav valk design ever. Still have a gamlin 22 though! Edit: Don't mind a Hi-metal too. Edited October 10, 2022 by raptormesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoyStudio Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 WE WANT WE WANT WE WANT..D..X...CHA-GO-KIN...YF-21!!! Take our Money Geez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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