Yamato 2205

[Lexomatic]

On 7/22/2020 at 3:53 PM, Dynaman said:

That is part of the spaghetti problem - they bring this stuff up but go NOWHERE with any of it.  If they would have run with one of them they might have had something.

I had charitably interpreted those utterances as "planting seeds for potential future seasons" but now that the possibility is raised (by you and others), they could also be a sign of a disorganized writing process: Are there too many tertiary points distracting the narrative from the primary and secondary? The audience has a hard enough time following the development of the main beats without being distracted by self-indulgent flourishes and half-baked red herrings.

My background is software, where a properly engineered project starts with a detailed "requirements list" used a blueprint for coding and QA ("menu 3 shall have a button in position 4"). I've often thought that large writing projects (especially collaborative ones) should have the same, to verify that intentions are implemented. What are the theme(s), in what chapters are they addressed, and by which characters? For Mystery X, are essential clues {1, 2, 3} in evidence? Is toyetic vehicle V licensed to L displayed prominently?

[no3Ljm]

 

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[kalvasflam]

One obvious question is how did Gamilas fall so far so fast that their homework’s is actually threatened.  Gatlantis wasn’t shown to be focused on Gamilas at all.   And what the heck happened to the Gamilas type Andromeda carriers, they are back to triple deckers again?  
 

yes, three years have passed…. What the heck was Desslar doing for three years?

[TangledThorns]

Looks great but so did 2202... Ugh! YUKI!!

[Keith]

I got the impression Earth wasn't sharing time vault usage, so Gamilus would alwo have been relying on the Andromeda fleet for defense.with ship production back down to normal, it's not a huge surprise to see fewer ships all around.

[peter]

I finally watched 2202 and was a bit let down, thought I posted a ramble about it but maybe not. 

Summary:   Didn't like enemy ships behaving like a swarm of bees or capital ships moving like small fighter craft. 

I hope 2205 is better. 

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by peter
Edited for spelling

[peter]

Some Yamato models.  Most of the guys in the model forum have seen these.... Don't think I've posted them in the Yamato threads. 

Space Battleship Yamato and Space Battleship Musashi being fitted out. I didn't like the Ginga so I created SBY Musashi in my own head canon, lol!

Slight variances in the gray paint (Kure for Yamato and Sasebo for Musashi). 

First models I have ever lit. 

Smaller Mecha Colle models. SBY Yamato

SBY Musashi with the white range finder

First Andromeda model I ever built. 

Just some fun stuff. 

Edited August 9, 2021 by peter
edited for spelling

[Thom]

1 hour ago, peter said:

Just some fun stuff. 

I'll agree with that, whole-heartedly!

[sumyumgoy]

Beautiful stuff @peter!  Thank you for sharing.  Do you airbrush the mecha collection models or hand paint?

[TangledThorns]

For the Yamato and Musashi battleship fans I highly recommend playing World of Warships.

 

 

 

[kalvasflam]

it's a shame that Musashi and Yamato were done in by carrier aircraft.  It was just a fitting end to the battleship era considering how the Pacific was mostly carrier and submarine wars.

But it would've been a grander end to the battleship era to see Musashi and Yamato duke it out with Ching Lee's New Jersey and Iowa.  While the latter was more likely to have won due to better speed and fire control, the former could've gotten lucky.  Instead the end was the Surigao straits with Olendorf's ghosts of the deep killing the older Fuso and Yamashiro in a ridiculous six v two fight.

[TangledThorns]

4 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

it's a shame that Musashi and Yamato were done in by carrier aircraft.  It was just a fitting end to the battleship era considering how the Pacific was mostly carrier and submarine wars.

But it would've been a grander end to the battleship era to see Musashi and Yamato duke it out with Ching Lee's New Jersey and Iowa.  While the latter was more likely to have won due to better speed and fire control, the former could've gotten lucky.  Instead the end was the Surigao straits with Olendorf's ghosts of the deep killing the older Fuso and Yamashiro in a ridiculous six v two fight.

Musashi and Yamato would probably be afloat at a war museum today if the IJN didn't attack a certain island in the Pacific in December 1941. F around and find out as they say

That being said, you can play World of Warships to see how well the Iowa would do against the Yamato 🛥️

 

[peter]

11 hours ago, sumyumgoy said:

Beautiful stuff @peter!  Thank you for sharing.  Do you airbrush the mecha collection models or hand paint?

Thanks!  

I airbrushed the Mecha Collection models and I could barely see the things without magnification. 

 

 

[peter]

10 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

For the Yamato and Musashi battleship fans I highly recommend playing World of Warships.

 

 

 

I would love to, but my computer is too slow to play Pac Man. 

 

Not to mention I am absolutely the worst when it comes to game..... Would probably sink my own ship without the opposing force firing off one round, lol! 

[peter]

2 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

Musashi and Yamato would probably be afloat at a war museum today if the IJN didn't attack a certain island in the Pacific in December 1941. F around and find out as they say

That being said, you can play World of Warships to see how well the Iowa would do against the Yamato 🛥️

 

Setting aside history and politics for a sec, I think Yamato and Musashi were one of the most amazing battleships ever to to set sail. 

 

Someone did a rendition of what Yamato might look like today if she survived.  The Man in High Castle did an amazing job of what-if as well, but I think it was set a bit earlier than today. 

I was binge watching this channel though:

After this, I came to the realization that even if the Yamato class ships survived, even as museum ships, it would be financially crippling to maintain them, probably even as museum ships. 

Surviving combat is one thing, surviving against  budget constraints, mother nature, corrosion, and gravity is a whole different ball game. 

Sadly, games, tv/movies, and scale replicas and is about the only place these ships will live on

[peter]

Btw, awesome channel for battleship nuts.  The guy seems really stressed out though.  

Dream job, yet probably a ton of pressure.  Imagine the burden of preserving such an important piece of history.... Yikes.

[sumyumgoy]

12 hours ago, peter said:

I airbrushed the Mecha Collection models and I could barely see the things without magnification. 

 

Thanks for the progress shots!  They came out looking great and I can totally relate with the magnification part haha.

[Knight26]

Glad to see the series continuing, but let's hope they tone down the ridiculousness of the last season.

[peter]

3 hours ago, sumyumgoy said:

Thanks for the progress shots!  They came out looking great and I can totally relate with the magnification part haha.

No problem. 

I probably put way too much effort into the Mecha Collection models.  Primer, black base then shaded the colors in.  I even used different colors between the mini Yamato (Kure gray) and mini Musashi (SSebo gray) but it's barely noticeable. 

I put in a lot less effort into this one (Yunagi) and it turned out ok. 

Some detail painting for the parts that weren't molded in color

Just clear coated the rest, no primer, no color, no shading.  Just gloss straight onto the plastic. 

Decals (not stickers).  Some Tamiya panel lining. 

Flat clear on top of it all. 

The Yunagi is the only one using anime-correct colors, and that's because it's just clear on top of the plastic color it came molded in, which actually isn't that bad. 

Awesome little side ship that came with Yamato..... Too bad they aren't to scale. 

[peter]

3 hours ago, Knight26 said:

Glad to see the series continuing, but let's hope they tone down the ridiculousness of the last season.

Me too.  2202 was a totally out to lunch, but the models are still awesome 😁

[Valkyrie Hunter D]

 Good stuff, peter, they all look great!

[Dynaman]

Maybe it is just the lighting (and I hate to give Enterprise the top nod in a Yamato thread) but the Enterprise is absolutely incredible (and all of them are great too).

[peter]

Thanks guys

I took that photo just to compare side ships that came with the bigger ones.  Both the TOS and Yamato are 1/1000 scale, but I don't think the Yunagi is. 

Some other cross genre pics.  While exploring the expanse in search of the Xindi homeworld, the NX-01 comes across Earth vessels from alternate timelines/universes. 

Also, Klingon Doc Brown and his time machine. 

Smaller 1/2500 scale ship (Mecha Collection ships aren't quite to scale).  Same bit of fan fiction, SB Yamato, Musashi and Andromeda escort the Enterprise through the expanse to find the Xindi.

And since this is a Macross site (sadly not to scale.... SDF-1 should be a lot bigger) 

OK, last one.  These ones are to scale, all 1/1000

Edited August 11, 2021 by peter

[TehPW]

In my headcannon, when listening to Metallica's To Live is to Die & Dyer's Eve, I always slip into a Story where a massed fleet of from Star Wars, Star Trek (TNG era) Macross II (LA) and 1970's Yamato II muster to retender honors to a destroyed SDF before the entire fleet making a Star Wars RotJ attack against a Gol Boddole Zer-class Mobile Fortress, with a pair of VF-2SS's making the final blows. Looking at those pics of the Yamato-classes next to a NX-01? OMG, the feels!

back to the latest 2205 clips, I am SO stoaked! Now i know very little of the original Dark Nebula 3rd season (It wasn't aired in my local area when i was growing up) but I get very familiar vibs... Oh to be a fly on the wall, watching Starsha reacting to the apparent invasion of Gamalas...

 

[Thom]

@peter That is just an incredible looking fleet!

[TangledThorns]

Wish I had the patience and skill (oh, and time too!) to build models like these. 

[peter]

9 hours ago, TehPW said:

In my headcannon, when listening to Metallica's To Live is to Die & Dyer's Eve, I always slip into a Story where a massed fleet of from Star Wars, Star Trek (TNG era) Macross II (LA) and 1970's Yamato II muster to retender honors to a destroyed SDF before the entire fleet making a Star Wars RotJ attack against a Gol Boddole Zer-class Mobile Fortress, with a pair of VF-2SS's making the final blows. Looking at those pics of the Yamato-classes next to a NX-01? OMG, the feels!

back to the latest 2205 clips, I am SO stoaked! Now i know very little of the original Dark Nebula 3rd season (It wasn't aired in my local area when i was growing up) but I get very familiar vibs... Oh to be a fly on the wall, watching Starsha reacting to the apparent invasion of Gamalas...

 

2205....PLEASE BE GOOD!!!!  One thing I really liked about 2199 was that larger capital ships like SBY didn't turn on a dime or maneuver quickly.  Because it was slow and lumbering, it preserved the illusion of being a massive warship....well, space battleship.

Hell, even the main turrets didn't move quickly (something the movie failed at).

I almost lost it when it fired conventional rounds, so awesome watching those giant fireballs erupt from those guns.

I want to feel that magic again.  

[peter]

4 hours ago, TangledThorns said:

Wish I had the patience and skill (oh, and time too!) to build models like these. 

[peter]

I drink a lot of coffee when the sky isn't dark. 

[TehPW]

8 hours ago, peter said:

2205....PLEASE BE GOOD!!!!  One thing I really liked about 2199 was that larger capital ships like SBY didn't turn on a dime or maneuver quickly.  Because it was slow and lumbering, it preserved the illusion of being a massive warship....well, space battleship.

Hell, even the main turrets didn't move quickly (something the movie failed at).

I almost lost it when it fired conventional rounds, so awesome watching those giant fireballs erupt from those guns.

I want to feel that magic again.  

and being able to fire ballistics saved them (since firing energy-based weapons disperse in the warp ether). My question is: Did the 2202 Cosmos Navy have any ability to fire ballistics or did they embrace the rapid-fire beam gig entirely?

[peter]

2 hours ago, TehPW said:

and being able to fire ballistics saved them (since firing energy-based weapons disperse in the warp ether). My question is: Did the 2202 Cosmos Navy have any ability to fire ballistics or did they embrace the rapid-fire beam gig entirely?

I got the feeling that it was only Yamato that fired projectiles, but I could be wrong. 

It's not like they were firing the original WWII 46cm shells, they looked like some sort of modern shell, so maybe they were adapted to fire from other ships?

Either way, it's a nice backup option and it was fun to see.  I think they were only used once in 2202.

[no3Ljm]

https://p-bandai.jp/item/item-1000162821/

Edited August 26, 2021 by no3Ljm

[TangledThorns]

That is yuge! Doubt it would fit in most apartments in Japan, lol.

No electronics though?