Star Wars Disney+ limited TV Series

[Seto Kaiba]

15 minutes ago, azrael said:

If they can't come to a consensus, then they don't know what they want.

Anyone holding out for universal agreement in a fanbase as large and diverse as Star Wars's will be waiting a VERY long time...

I'd argue the more relevant point is the second one, that when the vocal Star Wars fans DO speak up about what they want what they're asking for usually lacks that all-important "general audiences" appeal... when it's not simply impractical or impossible.  (For instance, doing away with the sequel trilogy.)

 

15 minutes ago, azrael said:

Continuity is both a blessing and curse. It's a nice way to fill in the gaps, but I didn't need it documented what a character had for brunch on a Sunday afternoon. If you dig too deep into continuity porn, you enter the mundane. Then it becomes lousy storytelling.

I agree completely... but enough fans are into that kind of thing that it does demonstrably sell, though better practice would be to keep it to secondary media like novels and comics. 🤔

[Mog]

Key point that needs to be made is that Dooku and Ahsoka's stories were enhanced by what was portrayed in Tales of the Jedi.

You see why Dooku became disillusioned with both the Republic and the Order.  And it adds some depth to his character and his story.

You see exactly why Ahsoka was able to survive the initial Order 66 attack, adds a touching master-apprentice moment with Anakin, and adds a silly (yet sad) Easter egg moment with one of the clones.

We also get to see how she went from a broken, mourning state at the end of Clone Wars to the person willing to get back into the fight in Rebels.

With Tales of the Empire, they're okay stand-alone stories, but they never reach that next level.  I see what they were trying to do with the stories, but I wish they had focused on other more interesting aspects and relationships/interactions for Morgan Elsbeth and Barriss Offee.

Edited May 7, 2024 by Mog

[Old_Nash_II]

 

[pengbuzz]

On 5/6/2024 at 10:04 PM, Seto Kaiba said:

I agree completely... but enough fans are into that kind of thing that it does demonstrably sell, though better practice would be to keep it to secondary media like novels and comics. 🤔

Two words: blue milk.

Edited May 8, 2024 by pengbuzz

[Big s]

2 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

Two words: blue milk.

Every kid thinks it’s cool until they find out where it comes from 

[TangledThorns]

7 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

Two words: blue milk.

I saw blue milk at my local Target last week. Who was this made for?? lol

https://www.trumoo.com/products/star-wars---blue-milk

[Big s]

1 hour ago, TangledThorns said:

I saw blue milk at my local Target last week. Who was this made for?? lol

https://www.trumoo.com/products/star-wars---blue-milk

What creepy dairy did that come from?

[jvmacross]

9 hours ago, Big s said:

What creepy dairy did that come from?

 

 

[Big s]

49 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

 

 

They probably have those things on a farm now just hanging out waving people over.

[Black Valkyrie]

 

 

 

[Seto Kaiba]

Finished the Tales of titles... and I'm pretty underwhelmed by both.

Tales of the Empire in particular didn't really have much of the Empire in it.  I guess "Tales of Generally Unpleasant People" or "Tales of Darth Vader Cosplayers" didn't have quite the same ring to it.  It's three episodes of that one-shot villain from The Mandalorian and three about more members of the glowstick enthusiast society.  There's maybe three minutes of actual Imperial characters in the whole six episode miniseries.

The only one of the twelve episodes I think I really enjoyed was "Justice", the Count Dooku-as-a-Jedi story.  As Lawful Good characters go, he's one of the rare ones who seems to think it's better to be Good than strictly Lawful.

[sh9000]

 

 

[Dynaman]

Worth a look.  I like how Lego is Disney's excuse to have Star Wars make fun of itself.

[sh9000]

Volume 3 coming in 2025.

[Bolt]

16 hours ago, sh9000 said:

Volume 3 coming in 2025.

Very cool. It's been a very creative and refreshing look at SW. looking forward to Volume 3 .

[jvmacross]

SW Visions has been hit or miss for me...

[Big s]

25 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

SW Visions has been hit or miss for me...

It’s mostly miss for me, but when it does hit it kinda feels worth it

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, Big s said:

It’s mostly miss for me, but when it does hit it kinda feels worth it

I'm trying to recall stories from the show and the only one I can remember off the top of my head is the one involving the Sith with the umbrella lightsaber (I think)...and even then I couldn't tell you what it was about...

On the contrary, another anthology type animated series that I recall several stories from is Love, Death & Robots....the one with the Space Spider still weirds me out thinking about it! LOL

[TangledThorns]

11 hours ago, Big s said:

It’s mostly miss for me, but when it does hit it kinda feels worth it

+1 and your words can sum up most of SW content these days.

[Big s]

1 hour ago, TangledThorns said:

+1 and your words can sum up most of SW content these days.

For every Andor, there’s three or four acolytes the rest of the year

[sh9000]

https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-kids-lego-announce

[Mog]

Tales of the Underworld, May 4th:

Short eps featuring Asajj Ventress or Cad Bane.

Hopefully, it’s more like Tales of the Jedi and not like the underwhelming Tales of the Empire.

[sh9000]

Official Trailer.

[Seto Kaiba]

There goes Star Wars, back to nurse at the teat of Clone Wars nostalgia instead of coming up with something new and interesting.

Can't exactly pretend I'm excited for a miniseries exposition dumping about two one-dimensional meme characters from a 15 year old show.  Not much interest in every western's black hat gunslinger and the girl who got replaced by an even less subtle version of TPM Darth Maul.

[jvmacross]

51 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

There goes Star Wars, back to nurse at the teat of Clone Wars nostalgia instead of coming up with something new and interesting.

Same thing could have been said, and probably was, about Andor when first announced.....nostalgic teats are all Star Wars has left to feed off of these days...

[Seto Kaiba]

11 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Same thing could have been said, and probably was, about Andor when first announced.....nostalgic teats are all Star Wars has left to feed off of these days...

I don't think that would be a correct argument.  Andor is one of the few titles in the Disney+ Star Wars lineup with a plot that isn't BDSM levels of tied up in fanservice references to Filoni's The Clone Wars cartoon. 

 

[Dynaman]

On 2/27/2025 at 11:14 PM, kajnrig said:

Well, whatever it is, I'll be sure to check back when they announce a good reboot of The Acolyte. Dunno why that show in particular elicits such a response in me, but alas...

I don't think you will ever have a title with the word "Acolyte" in it again.  Some of the characters in it (err maybe not with the death toll in that one - so it wasn't ALL bad) may make an appearance in future shows though.

The Tales of the Empire was so bad I only watched a few minutes of the first one and gave up on it.

[jvmacross]

41 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

I don't think that would be a correct argument.  Andor is one of the few titles in the Disney+ Star Wars lineup with a plot that isn't BDSM levels of tied up in fanservice references to Filoni's The Clone Wars cartoon. 

 

Errrr....the entire series is based off of Rogue One - A Star Wars Story, which itself is full of OT call-backs, characters, locations, and ships, etc.....these nostalgic nods are disbursed throughout the first season and will no doubt be scattered throughout the final season....nothing wrong with it....it's part of what makes it a great show...

[Mog]

Eh, I was intrigued by more backstory about Morgan Elsbeth and seeing what happened with Barriss Offee.

But Morgan’s story never really hit that “next level” for me;  it just kinda felt flat and perfunctory.

Barriss’ had that interesting tie-in with Vader/Anakin.  But they completely ignored that interesting angle and instead went with a worn-out redemption arc.

Edited 22 hours ago by Mog

[Seto Kaiba]

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

Errrr....the entire series is based off of Rogue One - A Star Wars Story, which itself is full of OT call-backs, characters, locations, and ships, etc.....these nostalgic nods are disbursed throughout the first season and will no doubt be scattered throughout the final season....nothing wrong with it....it's part of what makes it a great show...

I think you may have missed a key point earlier on...

3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

There goes Star Wars, back to nurse at the teat of Clone Wars nostalgia

Andor is a prequel to Rogue One and therefore has a modest number of callbacks to the Original Trilogy, but that's different from what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about is Disney Star Wars near-constantly depending on nostalgia for one very specific Star Wars title: the Star Wars: the Clone Wars cartoon.  

Rebels and The Bad Batch are direct sequels to The Clone Wars, picking up characters and plot threads from it.  Ahsoka is a direct sequel to Rebels, featuring a character who was introduced in The Clone Wars (and even namedrops the main witch character from The Clone Wars).  The Mandalorian's Mandalorians are from a faction from The Clone Wars and their traditions are too.  The Book of Boba Fett is the same, but it also brings in the Pykes and Cad Bane from The Clone Wars.  The Acolyte is all about the force witches based on their depiction in The Clone Wars.  Tales of the Jedi alternates between being a The Clone Wars prequel and side story.  Tales of the Empire alternates between being a side story and a sequel.  Tales of the Underworld might be the most blatant one of the lot, being the backstory for one Clone Wars original character and a sequel to another's.

Andor, Resistance, and Skeleton Crew feel like the only only corners of the Star Wars universe that are largely free of the shadow of Darth Filoni.

(Not completely free, Saw Gerrera is one of his creations too...)

[jvmacross]

15 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

 

What I'm talking about is Disney Star Wars near-constantly depending on nostalgia for one very specific Star Wars title: the Star Wars: the Clone Wars cartoon.  

 

Nah...it's not just "one very specific" Star Wars title.....it's all of them....every single show has some nod to previous SW shows or movies....maybe you just have some disdain for the PT stuff and may be specifically more sensitive to Clone Wars references...it's not any more fanservice-y than nods to ST and OT stuff....heck, if you are an uber fan, you even get nostalgic nods from obscure sources that no normie would even pick up on, like in the last SW Space Pirates debacle...

[Seto Kaiba]

26 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Nah...it's not just "one very specific" Star Wars title.....it's all of them....every single show has some nod to previous SW shows or movies....

What you're describing there is normal franchise writing, which is not at all what I'm talking about.

 

26 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

maybe you just have some disdain for the PT stuff and may be specifically more sensitive to Clone Wars references...it's not any more fanservice-y than nods to ST and OT stuff....heck, if you are an uber fan, you even get nostalgic nods from obscure sources that no normie would even pick up on, like in the last SW Space Pirates debacle...

I actually quite enjoyed The Clone Wars for what it was.

The connections I'm talking about aren't subtle in any way.  In many cases, they make up a significant part of the entire show in question.  IMO, it shows a rather profound lack of imagination (or perhaps a lack of confidence) when almost every new Star Wars series seems to have to be a spinoff or a sequel to the one well-received show that just happens to have been made by LucasFilm's Chief Creative Officer 17 or so years back.

[Bolt]

7 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Same thing could have been said, and probably was, about Andor when first announced.....nostalgic teats are all Star Wars has left to feed off of these days...

Completely agree.